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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    no way...

    he will be 3rd or 4th favorite imo

    no way hes above smoke and ambrose

    I say 3rd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    I say 3rd
    and that would be VERY overrated...VERY

    hs not that good here at all

    many more than 2 have 10x the chance gordon does

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    sonoma by far the worst imo...

    WAY too slow and absolutley NO action
    I think both would be better than current cup road courses but just my opinion

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    everybody still thinks GORDON is some master road course driver

    hes not, especially at the Glen

    he was elite when drivers/teams sisnt even prepared for road courses

    he shouldnt even be top 5 rated price wise, but he will be

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    and that would be VERY overrated...VERY

    hs not that good here at all

    many more than 2 have 10x the chance gordon does
    Yes but he still has 4 wins but nine since 2001. Plus the momentum factor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Yes but he still has 4 wins but nine since 2001. Plus the momentum factor



    best finish of 9th in last 10 or 11 years....

    hes average at best at the glen

    a win bet is a complete waste of $$$$ at price he will be at....(imo anyway)
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    ill be fading gordon in H2H this week so i hope they overreact in prices!


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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    ill be fading gordon in H2H this week so i hope they overreact in prices!


    May not be a bad plan as prices will be over inflated. I only meant be shocked if most books don't have him as 3rd fave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    May not be a bad plan as prices will be over inflated. I only meant be shocked if most books don't have him as 3rd fave
    oh i agree, gordon, JPM, and kyle will be 3, 4, 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    oh i agree, gordon, JPM, and kyle will be 3, 4, 5
    You don't think JJ same price or better than Kyle ?

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    not sure, but it shouldnt be imo

    kyle very good here, only finished outside the top 10 1 single time, his rookie season

    plus hes won here

    but they always over price jimmy, so could be around same price

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    not sure, but it shouldnt be imo

    kyle very good here, only finished outside the top 10 1 single time, his rookie season

    plus hes won here

    but they always over price jimmy, so could be around same price
    Was thinking same about JJ over pricing

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    Gordon's avg finish the last 7 yrs here at the glen is 17.9 so he's not a factor for me this week

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    best finish of 9th in last 10 or 11 years....

    hes average at best at the glen

    a win bet is a complete waste of $$$$ at price he will be at....(imo anyway)
    exactly

    but, avg.finish can be a VERY decieving stat, 1 i never use...and even though he has wrecked, its not really that far off of how ordinary gordon has been here

    9th being is best finish in last 10 races just says it all...not even 1 single good finish
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    here are the greek openers:

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    actually be interesting to see how much better 5D opens at on a few of these

    may make the differnce on 1-2 of them for me, especially since im only taking 3 drivers probably to win this week, and focusing on H2H matchups to go big on

    **but i wont say much on that til they come out

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    stewart and ambrose are definatley biggest threats to win the race

    too bad theres no way in hell u can bet both and make any money
    I don't see why not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    I don't see why not.
    well of course u can now that theres odds to see...no odds werent out yet when i posted that

    was basing on previous opening prices, which were much lower than these


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    Why are people falling over themselves to back ambrose ( someone who has only ever won 1 time )

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    even in previous road races, I don't think there was ever a time when two guys were favored by so much that you couldn't turn a profit by backing both

    Not saying it's advisable, just that it's possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunovery View Post
    Why are people falling over themselves to back ambrose ( someone who has only ever won 1 time )
    hes raced 4 times here and finished top 3 everytime with 1 win, and hes there everytime

    btw: whos falling all over themselves?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    even in previous road races, I don't think there was ever a time when two guys were favored by so much that you couldn't turn a profit by backing both

    Not saying it's advisable, just that it's possible.
    maybe if its ur only 2 plays, and ur wanting to squeak out a profit...but i have the numbers, and u wouldnt win much at all if u took more than those 2 to win in a few road courses in the past...those odds are better than past years

    guess it all just depends how much money u risk and want to win

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    you wouldn't win big, but the shortest you see is maybe one guy at +200 and another at +250

    put $100 on both and you'd either profit $100 or $150

    unless you're betting at DSI/Bookmaker. Then you might not make much of anything :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    you wouldn't win big, but the shortest you see is maybe one guy at +200 and another at +250

    put $100 on both and you'd either profit $100 or $150

    unless you're betting at DSI/Bookmaker. Then you might not make much of anything :P
    yes ur right, if those were only 2 u were betting to win....

    is DSI that bad on nascar odds yis??

    think ive heard u mention b4

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    Yisman. Read this:
    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sbr-points...ok-wagers.html

    I got suspended from the sportsbook for 2 day for running, and deducted 10 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlooker View Post
    Yisman. Read this:
    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sbr-points...ok-wagers.html

    I got suspended from the sportsbook for 2 day for running, and deducted 10 points.
    that say just for same households, ghost accounts, ect right onlooker??

    what yis asks isnt illegal right or am i missing something?

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    they edited the rules to forbid runners just recently. shari was saying she asked for it.



    mike, it now is against the rules to ask someone to bet for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    they edited the rules to forbid runners just recently. shari was saying she asked for it.



    mike, it now is against the rules to ask someone to bet for you.
    well that blows..

    especially for guys that dont mind to help out friends on here, and the OPs like u it helps win...

    whats next?? illegal to loan pts too?

    geeez

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    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-ta...l#post15483096

    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    yes ur right, if those were only 2 u were betting to win....

    is DSI that bad on nascar odds yis??

    think ive heard u mention b4
    the worst. DSI/Bookmaker on field with 3+ choices offer horrible prices. I've posted some examples in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    they edited the rules to forbid runners just recently. shari was saying she asked for it.



    mike, it now is against the rules to ask someone to bet for you.
    Thanks for the heads up bud.

    I wish they would of let us know when they slipped that edit in. If I knew, I wouldn't of did it.

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    im going to open and fund a 2nd book when football starts, but need nascar to be at least good for H2H plays (high limits) there too

    suggestions? heritage or bookmaker?

    i do NOT take bonuses so that doesnt matter
    Last edited by 5mike5; 08-07-12 at 11:10 AM.

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    onlooker, there was nothing I could do

    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    im going to open and fund a 2nd book when football starts, but need nascar to be at least good for H2H plays there too

    suggestions? heritage or bookmaker?
    Heritage. Similar prices on hth to 5 dimes.

    not as good on the to win but still a lot better than Bookmaker.
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    ok thanks for the advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    im going to open and fund a 2nd book when football starts, but need nascar to be at least good for H2H plays (high limits) there too

    suggestions? heritage or bookmaker?

    i do NOT take bonuses so that doesnt matter
    BetOnline, sportbetting.ag, 1vice

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    ODDS ARE POSTED guys

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