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    play 36

    3rd @ 9-1

    403
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    11/4





    R8 #2 hidden mystery (10-1)
    R9 #13 saratoga colonel (8-1) play 37
    Last edited by JBEX; 07-31-17 at 12:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    play 36

    3rd @ 9-1

    403
    11.2
    70.40

    11/4





    R8 #2 hidden mystery (10-1)
    R9 #13 saratoga colonel (8-1) play 37
    out



    407
    11
    70.40

    11/4

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    R1 (hurdles) #4 reporter (8-1)

    R7 #9 spin cycle (20-1) play 37

    may make him my play later on but want to look at last 3 races

    R8 #6 seafire (12-1)

    R10 #9 purely lucky (7-2) 2 units
    Last edited by JBEX; 08-02-17 at 01:46 PM.

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    added 2 plays and designated earlier pick as a contest pick

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    play 37

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    What's your strategy here Jbex. I see you averaging 12/1 ML on 37 plays so far. Are you just taking shots or will you come in with lower priced ponies moving forward. GL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy-Rider 66 View Post
    What's your strategy here Jbex. I see you averaging 12/1 ML on 37 plays so far. Are you just taking shots or will you come in with lower priced ponies moving forward. GL.
    taking homerun swings

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    R2 #10 frost delay (15-1) play 38

    forgot to designate it a play..still time

    R5 xbox 69 both favs

    R7 #10 colorfull charades (15-1)

    R8 #6 munjaz (6-1)

    R10 #3 cetara (20-1)
    Last edited by JBEX; 08-03-17 at 02:50 PM.

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    added play

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    added R7 R8 R10

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    R4 #7 big expense (8-1)
    R9 #10 arklow (10-1)
    R10 #3 there he goes (6-1)
    Last edited by JBEX; 08-04-17 at 10:08 AM.

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    added R4

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    play 38

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    11/4

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    R4 #4 neepwa (10-1) play 39

    there will surely be some horses out of this 2yo msw turf route who will be heard from down the road.. loaded with expensive well bred debuters..like the combination of class and win early pedigree on this one slightly better than others . the dpi on the dam sire is pretty high but believe most of his runners are at woodbine.. dam was a stakes winner.. nicely drawn in 4 post and mark case top trainer

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    R4 #4 neepwa (10-1) play 39

    there will surely be some horses out of this 2yo msw turf route who will be heard from down the road.. loaded with expensive well bred debuters..like the combination of class and win early pedigree on this one slightly better than others . the dpi on the dam sire is pretty high but believe most of his runners are at woodbine.. dam was a stakes winnetlyr.. nicely drawn in 4 post and mark case top trainer

    also wanted to say he's bred very stoutly and training very solid

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    R4 #4 neepwa (10-1) play 39

    there will surely be some horses out of this 2yo msw turf route who will be heard from down the road.. loaded with expensive well bred debuters..like the combination of class and win early pedigree on this one slightly better than others . the dpi on the dam sire is pretty high but believe most of his runners are at woodbine.. dam was a stakes winner.. nicely drawn in 4 post and mark case top trainer

    bill mott firster wins and pays $47 (6-1 ml).. he's 5% with debuters overall... just goes to show imo that owners want to win first out with these types here whereas rest of the year doesn't matter that much.. mine came 3rd at 7-1

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    play 39

    3rd @ 7-1

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    11/4



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    play 40

    R2 #9 delta house (20-1)


    i know contessa terrible with turf horses and first time starters but he doesn't get to train many of this caliber and it is saratoga.. know I've seen the owners name many times over the years and sure he'd love to win 1st out.. cost 310k as a yearling by new sire animal kingdom.. dam has 1 winner from 2 starters and was a stakes winner

    R6 #5 dessert honeys (6-1)
    R7 #4 asian's way (8-1)
    R11 #8 jo's bold cat (6-1)
    Last edited by JBEX; 08-06-17 at 12:26 PM.

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    Interesting shot there Jbex. GL. Going with the #6 Emmport. Sired by Exchange Rate out of a Dynaformer mare. Like the workout pattern and Cox hitting 24% with first out turf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy-Rider 66 View Post
    Interesting shot there Jbex. GL. Going with the #6 Emmport. Sired by Exchange Rate out of a Dynaformer mare. Like the workout pattern and Cox hitting 24% with first out turf.
    yes he'd be my 2nd choice. .lots to like there but I'm swinging for the fences. .never bet horses who ran well in their first outing (2,4) or expensive clement firster (5) as those are too obvious for me..if they beat me (good chance they will) I'm ok with that..no regrets

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    yes he'd be my 2nd choice. .lots to like there but I'm swinging for the fences. .never bet horses who ran well in their first outing (2,4) or expensive clement firster (5) as those are too obvious for me..if they beat me (good chance they will) I'm ok with that..no regrets
    Well Jbex The 5 won at 6/1. Not a bad price. 6 came in second. $60 exacta. I am a bit confused by your post. I guess you are looking for subtle things on paper that you feel justify taking a shot? That's all good but I think the name of the game is picking winners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy-Rider 66 View Post
    Well Jbex The 5 won at 6/1. Not a bad price. 6 came in second. $60 exacta. I am a bit confused by your post. I guess you are looking for subtle things on paper that you feel justify taking a shot? That's all good but I think the name of the game is picking winners.
    Just my thing but I will not play first time starters from pletcher,brown or clement because to me that's just too easy to do..I understand this one came home at a decent price but I'm picking in advance so no way for me to know that..I understand pletcher has this ridiculous record with odds on 2yo first time starters but outside of that just can't go the easy route in these types of races,no pun intended

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    Just my thing but I will not play first time starters from pletcher,brown or clement because to me that's just too easy to do..I understand this one came home at a decent price but I'm picking in advance so no way for me to know that..I understand pletcher has this ridiculous record with odds on 2yo first time starters but outside of that just can't go the easy route in these types of races,no pun intended
    Alright Jbex. I guess each to his own. I will say it is more gratifying to see something subtle that comes in at a price than going with the obvious play. GL moving forward.

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    play 41

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    R2 quanique (20-1) play 42

    luzzi 0/55 on the turf but this horse's numbers as good as any in here in turf sprints including missing by a nose here last year.. ships here off even effort in suffolk turf route. trainer metiver horrible also but he's hit at least with one bomb 2nd start with him as the trainer from 13 tries (2 overall)

    R4 #4 fastlanefrontman (12-1)
    R6 #3 unbridled charge (6-1)
    R8 #8 decorator jenn (5-1)
    R9 #4 tulips galore (15-1) #7 halcyon (12-1)
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    I believe your next play is #41. Check your records if you so choose. In race 2 from Saratoga going with the #12, and cover with the #4. GL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy-Rider 66 View Post
    I believe your next play is #41. Check your records if you so choose. In race 2 from Saratoga going with the #12, and cover with the #4. GL.
    yes you're right ..thanks easy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
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    thanks louisvillekid1..been a rough go for a long time but that's how it goes with this game..keep trying

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    R1 #7 selection sunday (3-1)
    R4 #1 everybody loves me (5-2)
    R5 #4 fox strike (5-1)
    R6 #3 tiz a kitten (4-1)
    R10 #10 fortunate queen (3-1)

    all 2 units including hurdles

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    Hey Jbex good to see you have a change in strategy for today. Hopefully build up some momentum and confidence with more logical horses. Are any of these going to be a contest Play? GL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy-Rider 66 View Post
    Hey Jbex good to see you have a change in strategy for today. Hopefully build up some momentum and confidence with more logical horses. Are any of these going to be a contest Play? GL.
    no contest plays today easy..just seemed like a lot of solid chalk so going with it..contest plays won't be below 8-1 ml

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    btw just figure I'd mention ..75 race sample not nearly enough when you're chasing 12-1 avg odds..so whether I get close to even by catching some big ones or continue to struggle till the end nothing is proven..having a good time trying besides the horrendous results

    and to be fair this result has little to do with bad racing luck..they're just not running
    Last edited by JBEX; 08-09-17 at 10:02 AM.

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    it just gets worse and worse..but gonna keep trying

    R2 #7 prost (20-1) play 42

    if your gonna try to hit a price horse why not a mdn clm 30k going 9f..I think the even race troubled trip in debut at aqu is actually a useful primer to gain experience and prepare for a stretch out ..lots of droppers in here and that ain't happening cause this bunch is living up to expectations


    R3 #4 dooder (2-1)

    going to break my don't play chad brown firster rule because this gal cost an extraordinary amount of money
    with the lack of production on the bottom..feel these types are bought based on their physicality which is an angle I like


    R9 #8 new canaan (6-1)

    even at 40k nice piece of change for 6500 stud no production on the bottom..smart strike dadam sire always a good thing for turf..
    Last edited by JBEX; 08-10-17 at 10:33 AM.

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