1. 09-26-13 12:24 PM #71
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    Strange thread
    Strange Strategies here

    Paver is right just pick winners
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  2. 09-26-13 01:21 PM #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    I started with a $1000 bankroll 3 weeks ago and now I have a $3500 bankroll. 99% of my bets were -EV.

    Does it matter when I request a check for $2500 today?
    It matters that you have no clue what +EV means.
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  3. 09-26-13 02:09 PM #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by HUY View Post
    It matters that you have no clue what +EV means.
    I know what it is. I just don't use it in my bets cause I win betting -EV all the time. Follow the sharp money.
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  4. 09-26-13 02:28 PM #74
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    Think Tanked

    like any fukkers in here know about EV
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  5. 09-26-13 02:33 PM #75
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    The Kraken understands gambling verbiage better than anyone in the industry.

    When he speaks, just do what he says. Don't ask questions.
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  6. 09-26-13 02:58 PM #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Think Tanked

    like any fukkers in here know about EV
    lol This thread won't end and out of most of the posts only 2 or 3 give a general description of what it means, the rest is PRIME TIME examples.
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  7. 09-28-13 04:21 PM #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    You have no clue what + and - even really is

    It is not a term you use when you feel good about a bet

    Its a mathematical concept, more specifically a statistics concept

    Ive taken stats, you guys clearly are using it wrong
    People will use it to justify taking a bet that will probably lose, but has a positive expected value. For example, suppose I bet that the next roll of a 6-sided die will be 1, and the payout if I win is 10-1. I expect I am going to lose, but that bet sure has a +EV, so it's a good play. Similarly, suppose I calculate a 1 in 6 chance Philly beats Denver and the ML for Philly is +1000 (this is just an example, the line is not actually that high). There's nothing wrong with me coming in here and saying I calculate a +EV on Philly. However, as is the case with everything in here, it all comes down to our abilities to prognosticate. If I take 20 games where I calculate a team has a 1 in 6 chance of winning, but then none of those teams do, then my prognostication, not my math, skills are to blame.
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  8. 09-30-13 03:48 AM #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    I know what it is. I just don't use it in my bets cause I win betting -EV all the time. Follow the sharp money.
    Don't be ridiculous. If you win consistently, you have an edge, and therefore are betting +ev plays. It's that simple.

    Is Brock Landers betting +ev? No, but that guy could hit 65% and still lose. Grinding +ev with discipline is the only way to win. Period.
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  9. 09-30-13 04:25 AM #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by BriGuy View Post
    People will use it to justify taking a bet that will probably lose, but has a positive expected value. For example, suppose I bet that the next roll of a 6-sided die will be 1, and the payout if I win is 10-1. I expect I am going to lose, but that bet sure has a +EV, so it's a good play. Similarly, suppose I calculate a 1 in 6 chance Philly beats Denver and the ML for Philly is +1000 (this is just an example, the line is not actually that high). There's nothing wrong with me coming in here and saying I calculate a +EV on Philly. However, as is the case with everything in here, it all comes down to our abilities to prognosticate. If I take 20 games where I calculate a team has a 1 in 6 chance of winning, but then none of those teams do, then my prognostication, not my math, skills are to blame.
    best answer.
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  10. 09-30-13 12:42 PM #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by BriGuy View Post
    People will use it to justify taking a bet that will probably lose, but has a positive expected value. For example, suppose I bet that the next roll of a 6-sided die will be 1, and the payout if I win is 10-1. I expect I am going to lose, but that bet sure has a +EV, so it's a good play. Similarly, suppose I calculate a 1 in 6 chance Philly beats Denver and the ML for Philly is +1000 (this is just an example, the line is not actually that high). There's nothing wrong with me coming in here and saying I calculate a +EV on Philly. However, as is the case with everything in here, it all comes down to our abilities to prognosticate. If I take 20 games where I calculate a team has a 1 in 6 chance of winning, but then none of those teams do, then my prognostication, not my math, skills are to blame.
    Maybe your prognostication math skills are to blame. Regardless, if you ever find a +even play, you gotta go all in. You have a +expectation of winning.
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  11. 09-30-13 03:01 PM #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Maybe your prognostication math skills are to blame. Regardless, if you ever find a +even play, you gotta go all in. You have a +expectation of winning.
    That's not necessarily true. You have to consider how often a +EV play comes about. If +EV plays come about fairly frequently, it won't do much good if you're bankrupt because you went all-in on the last one and it didn't pan out.
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  12. 09-30-13 04:21 PM #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    The Kraken understands gambling verbiage better than anyone in the industry.

    When he speaks, just do what he says. Don't ask questions.
    The Kraken understands gambling verbage better than anyone.

    pavyracer gets $2500 check payouts weekly.

    pavy > kraken
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  13. 09-30-13 11:56 PM #83
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    Pavy is a legend. I am a grinder
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