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    mathsy, i'm asking really not asserting anything.

    but don't u want to bet as much as possible at book A, because the EV u lose at the pinny hedge is made up for many times over by betting more at A?

    we r looking at massive EV on that bet - 20 points. my NBA tool doesn't value 20 points (lol bad excel setup) but if we did do an EV calc, i think my second answer is better although i do agree i kind of butchered the Q.

    i met my wife when she was wearing a lime green thong and nothing else (not stripper, beach bum), so does MDC industries make them in that colour smallest size Pls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    No justification. I had a late-night brain cramp. 900 should be at risk.
    Why not lay an additional $100 more on each side? Free $100 middle with no risk of pony loss.

    Come on Justin...

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    Quote Originally Posted by subs View Post
    mathsy, i'm asking really not asserting anything.

    but don't u want to bet as much as possible at book A, because the EV u lose at the pinny hedge is made up for many times over by betting more at A?

    we r looking at massive EV on that bet - 20 points. my NBA tool doesn't value 20 points (lol bad excel setup) but if we did do an EV calc, i think my second answer is better although i do agree i kind of butchered the Q.

    i met my wife when she was wearing a lime green thong and nothing else (not stripper, beach bum), so does MDC industries make them in that colour smallest size Pls.
    You want to pump sportsbook A for the max and then bet just enough at Pinn to ensure you end up with at least $1100 at the end.

    So $1000 on U220, $100 on O200 (OK technically $99.01 on the over since it's at +101)

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    debating scenarios that will never happen = true top tier handicapper skill

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsigley View Post
    debating scenarios that will never happen = true top tier handicapper skill

    It is incredibly illustrative of real betting scenarios. The 20 pt difference was just an exaggeration. If the total were 202 instead of 200 the same logic applies exactly.

    You must have really struggled through school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post

    It is incredibly illustrative of real betting scenarios. The 20 pt difference was just an exaggeration. If the total were 202 instead of 200 the same logic applies exactly.

    You must have really struggled through school.
    Not exactly. I don't think you'll be betting $1000 on the 202 under and $100 on the 200 over in this case.

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    NBA main game line example won't happen in real life, but a prop line might, though not enough for a pony. But you get the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrongturn View Post
    NBA main game line example won't happen in real life, but a prop line might, though not enough for a pony. But you get the idea.
    In real life, Sportsbook A cancels your bet AFTER it wins and then closes your account for non-recreational play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Not exactly. I don't think you'll be betting $1000 on the 202 under and $100 on the 200 over in this case.

    What's a half point on an NBA total worth? 4 cents? So the 202 line is 16 cents off. If your BR is 100k then that's enough of an edge to nail the under for a dime straight up. And if that's all you're comfortable wagering, then you can still wager as much as you like on equal amounts on either side to go for the middle with no risk. But you'd still have $1000 exposed on U202.

    There are complications in the sense that both sides of the bets probably have juice attached to them, but the logic is exactly the same. The edge is just not massive anymore.

    As for the pony version of the question with Under 202 available, the answer is exactly the same. Why do you think you would change it with a total of 202 instead of 220?

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    You're right, I keep forgetting about the 98k in the slow pay book.

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    what about this one guys

    pinnacle has team a at -3 -110

    book A has team a -1 +100

    WHAT ONE DO YOU BET ONLY REAL HANDICAPPERS RESPOND

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsigley View Post
    what about this one guys

    pinnacle has team a at -3 -110

    book A has team a -1 +100

    WHAT ONE DO YOU BET ONLY REAL HANDICAPPERS RESPOND
    I'd normally say Ask Justin7, but he is not a certified HTT poster

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsigley View Post
    what about this one guys

    pinnacle has team a at -3 -110

    book A has team a -1 +100

    WHAT ONE DO YOU BET ONLY REAL HANDICAPPERS RESPOND
    I'm not a pro and i'm still learning, i might look stupid but.... why would that even be a question?

    your getting even money on the -1 at book A.....am i missing something, is book A not the obvious answer?

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    i think that Rsigley is trying out bitter and twisted posting for a while, can't be easy suffering fools all the time - damn you unluckyboy. he used to be happier posting (IMO, best poster anywhere).

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsigley View Post
    what about this one guys

    pinnacle has team a at -3 -110

    book A has team a -1 +100

    WHAT ONE DO YOU BET ONLY REAL HANDICAPPERS RESPOND
    Both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsigley View Post
    what about this one guys
    pinnacle has team a at -3 -110
    book A has team a -1 +100
    WHAT ONE DO YOU BET ONLY REAL HANDICAPPERS RESPOND
    Just bet Team A -1 +100 at Book-A of course. No need to back Team B +3 -110 at Pinnacle in order to arbitrage since Team B will lose, lol.

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