1. 11-18-07 06:26 PM #1
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    Pags' Plays 11/24

    all plays for a half unit...

    Virginia +3.5
    Missouri +3
    South Carolina +3
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  2. 11-18-07 08:59 PM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by pags11 View Post
    all plays for a half unit...

    Virginia +3.5
    Missouri +3
    South Carolina +3
    GL sir, I'm not even finish betting on NFL this week and you already no next week card.
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  3. 11-18-07 10:03 PM #3
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    Good luck pags, i have no opinion on those 3, so ill be pulling for you
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  4. 11-18-07 10:33 PM #4
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    Hey Pags.

    I am not on or against any of your plays.

    Good luck this week.
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  5. 11-19-07 07:39 AM #5
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    Hey Pags, thought you might be on UConn + 17. Any thoughts on that game? Thanks in advance.
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  6. 11-19-07 07:54 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk 5 View Post
    Hey Pags, thought you might be on UConn + 17. Any thoughts on that game? Thanks in advance.
    I also thought you would be on this UConn game. I like Missouri getting points, especially if you can get 3 or more. Virginia is also a possible play for me this week. Definately taking Georgia -3.5 @ Georgia Tech. I've been winning all year with the Dawgs and there's no reason to stop now! GL this week!
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  7. 11-19-07 11:50 AM #7
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    I will probably be on Missouri with you. Going to wait and see where that line goes.
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  8. 11-19-07 03:14 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by pags11 View Post
    all plays for a half unit...

    Virginia +3.5
    Missouri +3
    South Carolina +3

    Thanks for being on Mizzou this week Pags

    This is going to be a rock 'em sock 'em affair and I'll definitely take the points

    Virginia is one of my plays as well, GL and let's take them down
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  9. 11-19-07 03:33 PM #9
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    With all due respect sir you better give up on beating Kansas!
    Missouri has a punchers chance but KU is better running the ball and on defense! Should be a great game and I will lay off KU for the 2nd week in a row. Should have a minimum of 70 pts scored though with both QBs being red hot!! If the winning QB wins the Big 12 Championship too then give him the Heisman imo!
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  10. 11-19-07 05:10 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Handicapable View Post
    Missouri has a punchers chance but KU is better running the ball and on defense!
    I don't understand the perception of Kansas having a dominating defense. It's just not true. Their defensive statistics are padded by their cupcake non-conference schedule, and the 3 capable offensive teams they've faced (K-State, Nebraska, Okie State), particularly the Huskers and OSU, have moved the ball with ease against the Jayhawks supposed great defense. Meanwhile, Mizzou's much improved defense seemingly gets no credit for being the only team to shut down Texas Tech's offense. Similarly, Kansas' offense doesn't come close to matching a Mizzou offense that surrounds Daniel with Maclin, Rucker, Temple and Coffman, among others. No disrespect to Kansas, but Missouri is the far superior team.

    Good luck pags. I agree with the Mizzou and So. Carolina plays.
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  11. 11-19-07 05:17 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjt721 View Post
    I don't understand the perception of Kansas having a dominating defense. It's just not true. Their defensive statistics are padded by their cupcake non-conference schedule, and the 3 capable offensive teams they've faced (K-State, Nebraska, Okie State), particularly the Huskers and OSU, have moved the ball with ease against the Jayhawks supposed great defense. Meanwhile, Mizzou's much improved defense seemingly gets no credit for being the only team to shut down Texas Tech's offense. Similarly, Kansas' offense doesn't come close to matching a Mizzou offense that surrounds Daniel with Maclin, Rucker, Temple and Coffman, among others. No disrespect to Kansas, but Missouri is the far superior team.

    Good luck pags. I agree with the Mizzou and So. Carolina plays.
    Agreed on all counts.
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  12. 11-19-07 05:36 PM #12
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    I tried to warn you about Kentucky last week. I said they'd lose by 10 or so. However, look for them to pound TN this weekend. I will be with you on South Carolina though. South Carolina catches Clemson in a great spot and the cocks should be hungry for a win. As for your other plays I have no opinion as of yet. I wish you the best of luck.
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  13. 11-19-07 07:41 PM #13
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    GL Pags, I like Missouri and I avoid Virginia like the plague. I can't pick them worth a damn this season, I'm 0-4 with the Cavs, regardles if I bet for or against them.
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  14. 11-19-07 10:55 PM #14
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    I think Kansas secondary gets exposed. They haven't seen a QB like Chase Daniel. He is friggin good.
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  15. 11-20-07 02:34 AM #15
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    Pags: You slept in, you should have gotten Mizzou at 3.5 when it opened. Might not matter though, this could be a high scoring affair. I think I am the only person on the planet who fully expects the winner of this game to get to the BCS championship game via beating OU, but not face LSU (who chokes in the SEC championship game). Good luck Pags, I'm with you on this one.
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  16. 11-20-07 02:47 AM #16
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    Mizzou didn't open +3.5

    I saw the lines right when they came out.
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  17. 11-20-07 02:55 AM #17
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    imgv94: and what is your listing of openers by site?
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  18. 11-20-07 03:12 AM #18
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    SBR has a line history here:

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/Scores/NCAAF...5430/Side.aspx

    So, IMGV94, any dispute with SBR's history?
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  19. 11-20-07 04:01 AM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheell View Post
    SBR has a line history here:

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/Scores/NCAAF...5430/Side.aspx

    So, IMGV94, any dispute with SBR's history?
    That link proved my point. Missouri opened -1
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  20. 11-20-07 04:07 AM #20
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    yes, it did. The line opened at +1, peaked at -2.5. We can agree on that I presume, so, ergo, the line was never 3.5, because it peaked at 2.5. Which also means it was never 3. I'm glad we agree on this.
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  21. 11-20-07 04:11 AM #21
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    Oh, and by the way IMGV94, according to this:

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/Scores/NCAAF...5325/Side.aspx

    USC was never -2.5 vs. Arizona St. Good luck in that game.
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  22. 11-20-07 04:24 AM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheell View Post
    Oh, and by the way IMGV94, according to this:

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/Scores/NCAAF...5325/Side.aspx

    USC was never -2.5 vs. Arizona St. Good luck in that game.
    With all due respect sbrodds is wrong. USC was 2.5, pags witnessed it as well.

    I posted it immediately on theRX, when I bet it on . USC was -2.5 for at least 5 minutes. whormoan saw it and bet it too.

    Made my bet at 3:51pm pacific time.

    Here is the link where I mentioned it.
    http://forum.therx.com/showthread.php?t=532837
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  23. 11-20-07 04:31 AM #23
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    sbrodds is wrong, Missouri was +3.

    I was watching the lines like a hawk refreshing the page every 20 secs from the time they came out which was 3:47pm Pacific Time til about 4:15pm Pacific Time.

    I even created a thread where I mentioned the lines were coming out. http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/college-fo...bookmaker.html
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  24. 11-20-07 12:34 PM #24
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    pags I like Missouri also this week, Kansas hasn't played anybody and Missouri has played two good teams so they know how to win big games and Kansas is the big unknown at this time. I sure think if Missouri scores more than 40 they will win the game. I heard the weather is supposed to be cold but not any snow or any bad weather and that should make it for a really good game.
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  25. 11-20-07 01:10 PM #25
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    Mizz is a seal getting points in this game. I would take Mizz
    up to -2.5

    I look for a lower scoring game that most think. Neutral site, semi clod weather, and enough nerves on both sides to puke the whole first 1/4. 24-30 Mizz
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  26. 11-20-07 02:27 PM #26
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    I like Mizzou too, but if SBR Odds is NOT authoritative, then I say again, Pags and IMGV slept in, you guys should have gotten Mizzou +3.5 and USC +2. GL to both of you though, I'll be rooting for us.
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  27. 11-20-07 02:57 PM #27
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    wheell,

    I'm not sure the reason you feel the need to bust my balls, but I'm not in a real good mood after having lost the last two weeks...Missouri was +3 at bookmaker, anyone that folllows the early lines can tell you that...if you think that SBR Odds is never wrong then you are a ****ing moron and don't deserve to post in my thread...I post my plays minutes after I make them, so if you want to question my integrity I again will ask you to go **** yourself...other than that, I wish you luck on your plays...
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  28. 11-20-07 03:06 PM #28
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    white tiger,

    thanks my friend...GL to you as well...

    louisvillekid,

    thanks bud...BOL to you too...

    onlooker,

    that's good to hear, since you frequent my thread so often possibly you could prevent the morons from coming around this week or is that too much for me to ask?...

    hawk,

    that game made my final 6 or so games, but being that I'm only playing three this week it didn't make the final cut...I just think WVU is clicking on all cylinders right now and I'm not sure that Connecticut will be able to hang team speed wise...

    bet the house,

    I rode Connecticut for a while, but their game against Cincy really opened my eyes to their weaknesses...how you've been with UVA, that's been me with Wake this year...very frustrating...GL to you...

    bmac,

    let me know what you decide...BOL..

    teasem,

    good to hear we will be on those two together...GL...

    rjt,

    it's sharp thoughts like those that show why you are one of the top cappers on this board...BOL my friend...

    volin,



    seer,

    not sure how much of that Kentucky game you watched, but Georgia covered in spite of themselves...more often than not a team like Kentucky in that spot will come through...however, that's why they call it gambling...GL...

    **,

    GL to you as well...

    imgv,

    keep truckin' bud...GL...
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  29. 11-20-07 04:15 PM #29
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    sbrodds is incorrect i saw the lines when they came out usc opened minus three points moved to two and a half moved up to three a half missouri opened minus one moved to plus one and half moved to two and a half moved to three after that.sbrodds is not 100 percent accurate its a great free service but its not always correct.

    by the way pags how can u bet against kansas jayhawks are undefeated against the spread i love kansas in this spot gl pags on the other two.
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  30. 11-20-07 05:55 PM #30
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    mark,

    thanks for helping further clarifying things regarding the bookmaker lines...based on my unit size this week, you can see that many of these games late in the year come right down to the number...I respect Kansas completely, but just side with Missouri here...GL to you...
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  31. 11-20-07 08:25 PM #31
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    what's up pags, i noticed that in your write ups you dont base your reasoning much on trends and i wanted to know how much you use those trends when capping. . . i dont live or die by them because i look at each game as a different situation , trends normally just make me feel more confident or help me lean to one side? thanks
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  32. 11-20-07 08:46 PM #32
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    I respect Kansas a lot. I respect Missouri even more.
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  33. 11-20-07 10:34 PM #33
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    I'd like to officially announce that I'm done posting plays for the year. I'm extremely dissapointed with all of the trash in the sports forums and I'm extremely dissapointed in certain moderators and other SBR staff that aren't policing the forum properly. If I see improvement, I will think about posting next year, but until then I'm done. It's just too much work for no pay and risking too much knowing that I don't have the proper support. I'm sorry to dissapoint anyone. Thanks.
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  34. 11-20-07 10:36 PM #34
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    kid,

    I try to factor in all factors (trends, situational handicapping, etc.)...I do know I mentioned that South Carolina has faired well in their series with Clemson...I do appreciate your suggestion though and will look at that for future handicapping...you're one of the good guys...
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  35. 11-20-07 10:38 PM #35
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    imgv,

    agreed my brother...thanks for all of your support this year...
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