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    fresno state

    Someone tell me why fresno won't cover against smu. I have them winning by 20. They have new coach who wants to show off for alumni and the score a lot but still play defense. Tell me not to over analyze this.

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    Fresno feels like they're getting disrespected here, getting matched up with a weak opponent and not playing in the bowl they wanted. Carr has committed to coming back in 2013 for his senior year and will want to make sure he makes an impression. DeRuyter is also very ambitious and this game offers a huge opportunity to cement his reputation as a good head coach after a successful year. Everything about this game says Fresno will go for the knockout early.

    SMU weak in pass defense, but that's Fresno's strength. Even if they come motivated to play, Fresno should overpower them early and once down, I expect them to quit.

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    fresno gonna whoop that ass bigtime...this isnt pat hill bulldogs this new coach Tim Dereuter got these boys playing super hard...on fresno HUGE here

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    Who is the public on?


    I think fresno should win but if the public is on them that scares me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    Who is the public on?


    I think fresno should win but if the public is on them that scares me
    who the hell wants to put money on SMU?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    Who is the public on? I think fresno should win but if the public is on them that scares me
    This is NOT the way to approach capping bowl games.

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    Actually, fading the public works well in bowl games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M.W. View Post
    Actually, fading the public works well in bowl games.
    so your on SMU???

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    Quote Originally Posted by M.W. View Post
    Actually, fading the public works well in bowl games.
    Handicapping the matchup works better though. It was a minor miracle that the Mustangs made it to a bowl game at all. Anyone predicting a close one here probably doesn't have an opinion I respect.

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    Also like Fresno

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    Quote Originally Posted by suicidekings View Post
    Handicapping the matchup works better though. It was a minor miracle that the Mustangs made it to a bowl game at all. Anyone predicting a close one here probably doesn't have an opinion I respect.
    SMU is a joke! Fresno by three TD's!

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    I hit fresno for a grand. Didn't want to wait until game got close. I'm afraid points go up to 14. On fence on over still. Don't know if smu can score enough to help out. I see fresno putting up 40 but can smu put up 20? Anyone with insight let me know. Thx.

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    SMU is a team I can't ever seem to be able to get right but I'm all over Fresno by at least 3 tds.

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    another factor in this game....Fresno ST is used to making the trip to hawaii and whooping Hawaii every year. Fresno ST more familiar with the area with less travel than SMU who is travelling farther than Fresno ST

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    Agreed with everything said here. I'm Fresno st. Alum watch every game. Fresno should out match a shitty SMU team, but there's one thing that bothers me about this game. It's a classic letdown spot for Fresno state here.

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    You all say SMU is a joke but u forget they beat Tulsa (conf champs)by 8 and Fresno lost to the same team by 1. Makes you rethink going heavy on Fresno which I was going to do. More likely to go +12 parlayed with Fresno ML
    Last edited by qb1789; 12-22-12 at 11:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qb1789 View Post
    You all say SMU is a joke but u forget they beat Tulsa (conf champs)by 8 and Fresno lost to the same team by 1. Makes you rethink going heavy on Fresno which I was going to do. More likely to go +12 parlayed with Fresno ML
    Fresno ST is the play here

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    why is the line going down to 11.5 and should I wait to get a better line? makes me nervous but want to hit Fresno. maybe hit them for eleventy-million units. no prob just 100 bucks actually

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    Originally Posted by qb1789 You all say SMU is a joke but u forget they beat Tulsa (conf champs)by 8 and Fresno lost to the same team by 1. Makes you rethink going heavy on Fresno which I was going to do. More likely to go +12 parlayed with Fresno ML

    I'm pretty sure tulsa has nothing to play for as they knew the next week they would get ucf again for the championship.

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    I'm like SMU.

    SMU isn't going to be confused with being a great team anytime soon, but they did manage to play TCU tight, and SMU did manage to beat Tulsa.

    The catch with SMU is they play ugly on the road.

    Here's the catch. June Jones is going home. I think it's going to be good for Jones to be heading back to Hawaii where he enjoyed so much success.

    I just like the 12 here.

    GL guys.

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    That is a lot of points to lay. Smu can turn it on at anytime. How good is the Fresno pass defense. Tread lightly on this one

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    I think it is way more likely that Fresno blows out a bad SMU road team than SMU keeping it close. I would have to give more thought if SMU were getting 18. I am playing the better team in this spot.

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    fresno state 7-1 ATS their last 8 games. Why do i sense they fail to cover here

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    Quote Originally Posted by iMxth3xbossx5000 View Post
    fresno state 7-1 ATS their last 8 games. Why do i sense they fail to cover here
    Cuz they will fail to cover thats why.

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    Why do you think they don't cover? Everything I've looked at leads me to believe they will. What am I missing?

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    There's alot of reasons...June jones comin back home, lack of Fresno motivation, smu beat Tulsa Fresno lost to them, Fresno bad against the run, smu stuck within 8 of tcu when they had pachall, etc

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    They beat a Tulsa team that forgot they were playing football until they found themselves down 5 touchdowns. Then they battle all the way back. Don't get me wrong, I think Fresno had 2 defensive scores against Tulsa and still couldn't get over. I'm just looking at a strong passing game and a weaker pass defense. But, I'm not betting the house. I think Fresno wins big but there's a lot of people taking 12 that disagree!

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    SMU sucks, Fresno Rolls here...Carr has gone for 500+ Yards passing in a few games...will be high scoring. People are overthinking one Tulsa game let em overthink.

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    Tulsa was early in the season too.

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    that whole "motivation" factor is bs. Fresno St. is going to come out firing and needs no motivation for that. People said the same thing when UCF had to play Ball St acting like UCF wouldn't care going into the game but they stomped all over em

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign Man View Post
    that whole "motivation" factor is bs. Fresno St. is going to come out firing and needs no motivation for that. People said the same thing when UCF had to play Ball St acting like UCF wouldn't care going into the game but they stomped all over em
    They also weren't in Hawaii all week. Here's another possible prob for Fresno backers...read into it what you may...
    http://www.fresnobee.com/2012/12/22/3110507/fresno-state-smu-defenses-have.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by qb1789 View Post
    They also weren't in Hawaii all week. Here's another possible prob for Fresno backers...read into it what you may...
    http://www.fresnobee.com/2012/12/22/...nses-have.html
    i dont need to read no stupid ass article about my team...I watched this team every week all season...we win by 2+ TD's at the very least

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    Quote Originally Posted by suicidekings View Post
    Handicapping the matchup works better though. It was a minor miracle that the Mustangs made it to a bowl game at all. Anyone predicting a close one here probably doesn't have an opinion I respect.
    wow - i guess you're unloading a huge bet on fresno?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_Demo View Post
    Fresno ST is the play here
    haha - says the guy with a Fresno St avatar.

    i dont understand why passionate fans of certain teams bet on sports. its a recipe for disaster if you ask me....

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    I'm throwing a nickel on SMU but curious if anyone thinks the line will move up or down. I got 11.5 right now and am fine with that but if it goes up I don't wanna jump on it too early.

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