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    How does live betting work? Not familiar with it at all.

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    Live MMA betting is a whole new animal as far as I know. Live betting on other sports gives you betting windows (one would assume that in MMA naturally these betting windows would be in between rounds) in which you can bet on props and adjusted money lines on the players/teams.

    So here is what I would expect, after a first round in which Guida dominated Gomi with his wrestling (something I hope doesn't happen), live betting would allow you to bet on an adjusted Guida -250 line or an adjusted Gomi +190 line or maybe a prop or two; such as: fight ends in second round yes +200 no -270. Maybe throw in betting lines by submission, decision, or knockout. and all of these lines adjust according to the live action.

    So if Gomi comes out like a house on fire in the second, his line would adjust to lets say +110 in between rounds 2 and 3. If Guida continues to dominate, the lines would change drastically to like +330 for Gomi -500 for Guida. Since all signs seem to be pointing towards Guida by decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppa Catfish View Post
    Live MMA betting is a whole new animal as far as I know. Live betting on other sports gives you betting windows (one would assume that in MMA naturally these betting windows would be in between rounds) in which you can bet on props and adjusted money lines on the players/teams.

    So here is what I would expect, after a first round in which Guida dominated Gomi with his wrestling (something I hope doesn't happen), live betting would allow you to bet on an adjusted Guida -250 line or an adjusted Gomi +190 line or maybe a prop or two; such as: fight ends in second round yes +200 no -270. Maybe throw in betting lines by submission, decision, or knockout. and all of these lines adjust according to the live action.

    So if Gomi comes out like a house on fire in the second, his line would adjust to lets say +110 in between rounds 2 and 3. If Guida continues to dominate, the lines would change drastically to like +330 for Gomi -500 for Guida. Since all signs seem to be pointing towards Guida by decision.
    Ok, I think I've had some experience with this before. There used to be a site called tradesports.com that did something really close to what you just described.

    thanks for the 411

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    no prob

    it is a great way to bet favorites imo, I do it all the time in football and basketball. Team starts off slow and people panic and drive the line, allowing me to take the favorite that I wanted at a ridiculously low line. Just think about a fight like Cain vs Brock, if the books didn't catch on to how gas'd Cain was, you could have made off like a bandit

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    i think you're talking about Carwin there, but yeah. That would've been a great live betting opportunity.

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    Yeah, oops. Way too distracted, but thats exactly what I'm talking about.

    Ca(RW)in

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    well for tomorrow i made plays on henderson (3x), cruz fight going over 4.5 (3x), horodecki-cerrone under 2.5(x1) have a feeling horodecki might get ko'd

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    i went with henderson, jorgenson, horodecki ( think it ridiculous cowboy is -400 to -500) and menjivar

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    I'm pissed at the WEC. I went to a UFC fight at MGM some time ago and though I had good seats (2nd price level) I watched most fights via the large screens placed around the arena because I was too far away to see the action without the TVs. So when I heard WEC was gonna be in Arizona I got floor seats, row 9. Thought I did pretty good, but went to ticketmaster today just to see what kind of seats were still available and they have 2nd row floor for the same price as my 9th row floor. WTF!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by F42294 View Post
    I'm pissed at the WEC. I went to a UFC fight at MGM some time ago and though I had good seats (2nd price level) I watched most fights via the large screens placed around the arena because I was too far away to see the action without the TVs. So when I heard WEC was gonna be in Arizona I got floor seats, row 9. Thought I did pretty good, but went to ticketmaster today just to see what kind of seats were still available and they have 2nd row floor for the same price as my 9th row floor. WTF!!!

    lol sorry to hear about that man. I guess there's a reason for the merger...

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    Quote Originally Posted by F42294 View Post
    I'm pissed at the WEC. I went to a UFC fight at MGM some time ago and though I had good seats (2nd price level) I watched most fights via the large screens placed around the arena because I was too far away to see the action without the TVs. So when I heard WEC was gonna be in Arizona I got floor seats, row 9. Thought I did pretty good, but went to ticketmaster today just to see what kind of seats were still available and they have 2nd row floor for the same price as my 9th row floor. WTF!!!

    i feel you pain bud.... im from toronto so its very rare i get to see a mma live... 2 instances i have gone 1- the strikforce show in st.louis seilds vs lawler.... i bought the highest price level, couldent see shit

    2- fedor vs rogers in chicago, bought literally the cheapest seats and could see EVERYTHING, great view etc.. the sears center was a great venue and to top it of fedor knocking rogers out cold was a delight....

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    im going with cruz -220 tonight, his striking and wrestling are gonna be too much for jorgensen to handle

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    winner of Henderson/Pettis get to face the winner of Maynard/Edgar, but does the winner of Cruz/Jorgensen win a UFC belt tonight. The next TUF season might be tonights winner vs Faber So i'm curious to see if there will be a champ or will Cruz/Jorgensen Vs Faber be for a vaccant UFC Bantamweight title

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE_LOCKSMITH View Post
    winner of Henderson/Pettis get to face the winner of Maynard/Edgar, but does the winner of Cruz/Jorgensen win a UFC belt tonight. The next TUF season might be tonights winner vs Faber So i'm curious to see if there will be a champ or will Cruz/Jorgensen Vs Faber be for a vaccant UFC Bantamweight title
    I definitely think they will crown the winner tonight with the belt. They gave Aldo his belt already, so I think they will do the same here. It would be interesting though to see if they will maybe vacate it to have a chance at their posterboy Faber to be the first UFC Bantamweight champ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The HOFF View Post
    Bookmaker has listed "live in-progress betting" on the 4 main card fights. Interesting; I've never seen this before. I assume they will throw lines up in between rounds.
    5Dimes has this as well!!!!

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    Kamikaze living up to his nick name

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppa Catfish View Post
    Kamikaze living up to his nick name
    LOL. Well I had Barao for the first leg of a parlay so thats good. However I had a flyer on Zhang fastest sub. Hes gunna have to be EXTRA quick now....Hopefully Barao gets some recognition now.

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    Hoping Alcantara tops Barao with a faster sub and Zhang comes over the top with an even faster sub. A mini competition if you will

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    Not a sub, I am disappointed

    Ok Zhang that was 2 minutes and change, now beat that!

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    Alacantara cashes!!! . I had a feeling Lamas would try to stand, and I knew it would end well if he decided to lol.

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    Well this poses a problem. Now my flyer of fastest KO for Wineland is gunna be doomed .

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    haha

    Thank god for Cruz otherwise this might be a 10 minute event

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    I hope the main card fights end early so I can see some of these beauties. Cruz may take up half the broadcast though.

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    They should air the event in its entirety, imo.

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    lamas was to alcantara what worms are to a fisherman....

    nice doggie hit !...

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    yeah an excellent start to the night

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eccocide View Post
    5Dimes has this as well!!!!
    Nice, good to see 5dimes coming in with this also.

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    Scott Jorgensen will win today I have a small chunk of cash on him beating cruz and becoming the new champion.Henderson will also win.

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    Castillo TCBs, quick and tidy. Wow, this could be a record for shortest combined fight time for an undercard!!!

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    Oh man Ecco your boy has to really step it up now

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    I'm considering a play on Pettis. Even though I think Henderson has the edge Pettis is an exciting, dynamic fighter and it would be an incredibly exciting if Pettis pulls off the upset in the spectacular fashion he is capable of.

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    Haha. It aint happening now! But I need to him win at least because he's the last leg of my parlay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogbat View Post
    I'm considering a play on Pettis. Even though I think Henderson has the edge Pettis is an exciting, dynamic fighter and it would be an incredibly exciting if Pettis pulls off the upset in the spectacular fashion he is capable of.
    So in that line of thinking go with Pettis to win inside distance. Which I think is pretty smart given that they are fighting in Glendale Arizona, Bendo's home town. Not that I would expect Pettis to win a decision anyways

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    What the **** happened to Cerrone's line? I just got back from town and the only numbers out there are -400 and -525. Did Horodecki sever a thumb or something?

    Well, I got pooched on the prelims one last time. I was into Alacantara for sure but was also into Cariaso depending, so who knows? Might have gone with some of these somewhat tasty looking dogs like Stone or Menjivar, so if they fall on their face I should feel better about myself.

    What I did get were some great numbers on the mains. Also pulled the trigger on Maynard before the line hits rough water.


    2u Anthony Pettis +170
    1u Scott Jorgensen +200

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppa Catfish View Post
    So in that line of thinking go with Pettis to win inside distance. Which I think is pretty smart given that they are fighting in Glendale Arizona, Bendo's home town. Not that I would expect Pettis to win a decision anyways
    Yeah Pettis by TKO is the play if you like Pettis. Pettis will probably gas if it goes into the championship rounds.

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