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    UFC on ESPN+ 39: Hall vs. Silva (October 31, 2020)



    ESPN+ 7:00 pm ET
    Anderson Silva vs. Uriah Hall
    Andre Fili vs. Bryce Mitchell
    Kevin Holland vs. Makhmud Muradov
    Maurice Greene vs. Greg Hardy
    Bobby Green vs. Thiago Moises

    ESPN+ 4:00 pm ET
    Chris Gruetzemacher vs. Alexander Hernandez
    Sean Strickland vs. Jack Marshman
    Cole Williams vs. Jason Witt
    Dustin Jacoby vs. Justin Ledet
    Cortney Casey vs. Priscila Cachoeira
    Miles Johns vs. Kevin Natividad
    Adrian Yanez vs. Victor Rodriquez





    Happy Halloween MFers......
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    Some good Halloween entertainment if youíre going to be hanging home like me
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    Not a lot of opportunities on this weak card. 1 parlay so far:

    2.5 units Yanez, Strickland & Hardy +122

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    Def have a few bucks on Ledet and Grutze-Gruetz is tough as nails-will be slower but if he is the guy walking foward-eventually lets hope he lands one---also a bonus you get to see hernandez get KO'd.

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    Winnable fight for Anderson but I expect him to just taunt Hall for 25 minutes while neither fighter does anything
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    Anderson really has racked up the L's in the last 7 years. 1-6 with a NC, and that one win was a gift decision against Brunson

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    maybe another gift on the way out the door?
    Quote Originally Posted by THE_LOCKSMITH View Post
    Anderson really has racked up the L's in the last 7 years. 1-6 with a NC, and that one win was a gift decision against Brunson

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    maybe another gift on the way out the door?
    If he wins he probably doesnít retire LOL

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    The thought of putting any money on silva feels me with disgust. He loses every fight now. He just stands there. Hall will win easily, probably by decision though.

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    Anderson Silva vs Uriah Hall.

    Could be another counter striker vs counter striker match up.

    They could both spend 25 minutes waiting for the other person to lead and it might never happen.

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    Hall/Silva To Go The Distance

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    Weird. Based on what you guys are saying it should be Yes -335 No +210

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    Initial odds look about right due to Silva's age and the fight being 5 rounds.

    Hall also seems in a better place since his move to Fortis MMA.
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    My buddy's "guy" is in early on Mitchell over Fili. I don't know a lot about either one.

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie878 View Post
    My buddy's "guy" is in early on Mitchell over Fili. I don't know a lot about either one.

    Thoughts?

    I'd be careful with that one Mitchell hasn't fought very good competition and "touchy" Fili has a ton of experience, it might come to a close decision I was thinking of taking a flyer on fight ends in a draw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie878 View Post
    My buddy's "guy" is in early on Mitchell over Fili. I don't know a lot about either one.

    Thoughts?


    It sounds like Bryce Mitchell is the only name he recognized for this event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie878 View Post
    My buddy's "guy" is in early on Mitchell over Fili. I don't know a lot about either one.

    Thoughts?
    Think it's a pass at the current line. Fili's not great off his back but I'm a tad concerned with Mitchell's cardio if Fili is giving him a tough fight. Mitchell faded R3 against Tyler Diamond and Bobby Moffett, and while his cardio looked good against Charles Rosa, that was also a very one sided fight (and I'd be very surprised if Mitchell dominates Fili).
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    The guy holds his own with his picks, I'm usually told most of them at some point. He also usually waits until later in the week. For some reason, he's on Mitchell early. That's all I can say.

    I do appreciate the responses so far. Thanks.

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    Nothing negative against your guy.

    There are usually better and safer value on plays than the main / co main where the biggest $$$ is laid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanity Check View Post
    Nothing negative against your guy.

    There are usually better and safer value on plays than the main / co main where the biggest $$$ is laid.
    Not MY guy... my buddy's "guy"... but when he told me yesterday about it, it was odd it was this early and I don't know anything about him, so I asked.

    Again, much appreciated. I passed along those comments.

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    Im with your buddy buddy buddy or whoever---when mitchell put salyes in a twister i was shocked---rosa also came in VERY game for their fight-
    Quote Originally Posted by magpie878 View Post
    Not MY guy... my buddy's "guy"... but when he told me yesterday about it, it was odd it was this early and I don't know anything about him, so I asked.

    Again, much appreciated. I passed along those comments.

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    I was originally going to make a play on Mitchell but the more I looked at it it reminded me of the Shabhazyan vs Brunson fight a couple of months ago - hyped up undefeated prospect vs the polished vet with some gas left in the tank. Plus Fili has a badass neck tattoo, so no play for me

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    I don't even toss those fights NEAR each other with any comparison possible..........Bruson was a seasoned vet that had fought the best of the best and most recent loss was to the belt holder....vs an unknown HUGE favorite w zero ground game and less speed.......Mitchell is the slightly favd new guy vs a guy that had a 50/50 W-L UFC career--- w a recent split over air jourdain....
    Quote Originally Posted by hankcream View Post
    I was originally going to make a play on Mitchell but the more I looked at it it reminded me of the Shabhazyan vs Brunson fight a couple of months ago - hyped up undefeated prospect vs the polished vet with some gas left in the tank. Plus Fili has a badass neck tattoo, so no play for me

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    Muradov OUT.

    Kevin Holland will now take on Charlie Ontiveros

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    Sucks Holland v. Muradov was called off, had a multi unit play on Holland there.
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    170 lbs.: Cole Williams vs. Jason Witt

    Cole Williams (11-2) entered the Octagon last year on a nine-fight win streak, unbeaten since a 2009 decision loss to veteran Eric Spicely. Though he showed some bravery in stepping up on short notice to face Claudio Silva, it wasn’t enough to save him from a first-round submission defeat.
    He has knocked out and submitted four professional foes apiece.
    Jason Witt (17-6) went from starting his pro career 8-4 to joining the UFC in June with a 17-5 record. He replaced Ramiz Brahimaj at the last minute and was rewarded for his efforts with a 48-second knockout loss to Takashi Sato.
    He gives up two inches of height and three inches of reach to Williams.
    There’s a nice bit of symmetry here, as both men are generalists who got crushed by specialists in their short-notice debuts. The oddsmakers list this as the closest match up on the card and I’m inclined to agree.
    I do, however, favor Williams. He just seems to be a slightly sharper striker and, critically, has enough pop to floor the historically fragile Witt. There’s plenty of potential for surprises thanks to the pair getting stomped before they got a chance to show their skillsets, but the height, reach and durability discrepancies have me picking Williams.
    Prediction: Williams via first-round technical knockout
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    205 lbs.: Dustin Jacoby vs. Justin Ledet

    Dustin Jacoby (12-5) washed out of UFC in 2012 after consecutive losses to Clifford Starks and Chris Camozzi, and after a run on the regional circuit, found impressive amounts of success kickboxing under the Glory banner. After returning to MMA with a decision over Cody East in 2019, he put an absolute beating on Ty Flores in an August “Contender Series” clash to once again earn a spot in the Octagon.
    He has knocked out eight professional foes and submitted one other.
    Despite scoring victories over Chase Sherman, Mark Godbeer and Azunna Anyanwu in his first three UFC appearances, Justin Ledet (9-3) elected to drop to Light Heavyweight in 2018. This move has failed to pay dividends, and he enters the cage this Saturday on a three-fight losing streak.
    He’ll enjoy a two-inch reach advantage over Jacoby.
    As impressive as Jacoby was in the first half of his Contender Series bout, his cardio proved a point of concern. If he’s shored that up in these last couple months, there’s no reason why he shouldn’t win this. Ledet’s genuinely impressive boxing chops are let down by his nonexistent output and poor ground game, and while Jacoby might not be able to do much with the latter, he can definitely exploit the former.
    Jacoby just has too many weapons for Ledet, especially considering the latter’s penchant for self-sabotage. Kickboxing triumphs over boxing as he outworks Ledet for a comfortable decision win.
    Prediction: Jacoby via unanimous decision
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    125 lbs.: Cortney Casey vs. Priscila Cachoeira

    It’s now been four years since Cortney Casey (9-8) last won consecutive bouts, a stretch that at one point featured three consecutive split decisions. She scored her first finish since 2016 this past May, tapping Mara Romero Borella with a bonus-winning armbar, but could not overcome Gillian Robertson on short notice a month later.
    She sports a two-inch reach advantage over the Brazilian.
    Priscila Cachoeira (9-3) — who infamously debuted against Valentina Shevchenko back in 2018 — came up short in her first three Octagon bouts. With her back against the wall, she scored a much-needed one-punch finish of Shana Dobson in February to earn Performance of the Night.
    The victory marked her fifth professional knockout.
    Casey is honestly fascinating in her own way, simultaneously overachieving and underachieving. She finds far more success than her limited skillset should allow, but also seems unable to make the final push necessary to secure a decisive victory. That still puts her a step above Cachoeira, who has a solid punch and practically nothing else.
    With a clear edge on the ground and enough striking acumen to hold her own against the free-swinging Brazilian, Casey has the tools to win this without issue. Knowing her, she’ll probably end up making it more difficult on herself than necessary.
    Prediction: Casey via split decision
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    135 lbs.: Miles Johns vs. Kevin Natividad

    Miles Johns (10-1) claimed the LFA Bantamweight title with a split decision over Adrian Yanez in 2018, then claimed a UFC contract by beating Richie Santiago on the Contender Series. Though he successfully outlasted Cole Smith in his inaugural Octagon appearance, his sophomore effort saw him fall victim to a flying knee from Mario Bautista.
    He stands one inch taller than Kevin Natividad (9-1) at 5’7.”
    Natividad went 13-1 as an amateur, beating future UFC competitor Kai Kamaka III along the way, before debuting professionally in 2016. He currently rides a five-fight winning streak, including a knockout of Kyle Estrada in July. He was slated to debut against Brian Kelleher in September, but withdrew at the last minute due to COVID.
    On the one hand, Johns is the better boxer and wrestler, giving him the advantage essentially wherever the fight goes. On the other hand, he badly underperformed against Bautista, neglecting his takedowns in favor of standing with a striking specialist and ultimately paying the price. Doing the same here is not advised, as Natividad can definitely thump.
    If Johns fights with even a modicum of proper gameplanning, he shouldn’t have too much trouble. If he doesn’t, Natividad will knock his block off. I’m picking the former on the off-chance that Johns’ last fight was a learning experience.
    Prediction: Johns via unanimous decision



    155 lbs.: Chris Gruetzemacher vs. Alexander Hernandez

    Chris Gruetzemacher (14-3) reached The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 22 quarterfinals before falling to Artem Lobov, then claimed his first Octagon victory with a decision over Abner Lloveras at the Finale. “Gritz” then suffered consecutive submission losses to Chas Skelly and Davi Ramos, but bounced back by battering Joe Lauzon into submission at UFC 223.
    This will be his first fight in 2.5 years because of a torn ACL.
    Alexander Hernandez (11-3) looked poised for, well, greatness after dominant Octagon victories over Beneil Dariush and Olivier Aubin-Mercier, but has recently struggled to regain his early form. Knockout losses to Donald Cerrone and Drew Dober sandwich a hugely controversial decision win over Francisco Trinaldo, leaving Hernandez’s UFC prospects teetering on the brink.
    This is a clear-cut do-or-die fight for Hernandez. The Cerrone loss appears to have beaten his confidence into mush, leaving him to awkwardly cosplay as a technician when he’s at his best marching forward and imposing his strength. Luckily for him, even that version of him should be sufficient to overpower Gruetzemacher, who offers little besides forward pressure and decent wrestling.
    Assuming there’s anything left of the spark that made Hernandez a must-watch prospect, he’s got the edge everywhere. Harder punches and superior takedowns carry him to a wide decision win.
    Prediction: Hernandez via unanimous decision
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    135 lbs.: Adrian Yanez vs. Victor Rodriguez

    Though his two biggest LFA bouts saw him drop split decisions to Domingo Pilarte and Miles Johns, Adrian Yanez (11-3) punched his ticket to “Contender Series” with three consecutive wins. Once there, he made the most of his opportunity by flattening Brady Huang in just 39 seconds.
    His eight professional stoppage wins include six by form of knockout.
    Victor Rodriguez (7-2) dropped consecutive bouts in 2014 before spending 3.5 years on the sidelines. Upon his return, he scored four consecutive knockouts and claimed the Alaska FC Bantamweight belt in the process.
    “Vicious” steps in for the injured Aaron Phillips on less than two weeks’ notice.
    Not to disparage Rodriguez’s abilities, but Yanez should demolish him in short order. Yanez is by far the better boxer, and while Rodriguez can dish out some damage if he ends up on top, Yanez has held his own against superior wrestlers in the past. Rodriguez is simply too easy to hit to survive against a puncher of this caliber, especially one with the iron chin needed to walk through Rodriguez’s own haymakers.
    Long story short, this is a mismatch. Yanez blows him up with a right hand sometime in the first round.
    Prediction: Yanez via first-round knockout
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    185 lbs.: Sean Strickland vs. Jack Marshman

    Sean Strickland (20-3) came out of the UFC gate strong, racking up five wins in his first six Octagon appearances. “Tarzan” now finds himself in the midst of a 2-2 stretch, wins over Court McGee and Elizeu Zaleski sitting alongside losses to Kamaru Usman and Elizeu Zaleski.
    This will be both his first Middleweight appearance since 2014 and his first fight period in almost exactly two years.
    Jack Marshman (23-9) extended his win streak to seven with an upset knockout of Magnus Cedenblad in his Octagon debut, only to fall into a 2-4 slump afterwards. His most recent bouts have seen him narrowly edge out fellow Welshman John Phillips and subsequently fall short against top prospect Edmen Shahbazyan at UFC 239.
    He steps in for Wellington Turman — who tested positive for COVID — on short notice.
    “Hammer” boasts grit for days and some genuine pop in his hands, but he’s effectively out-classed everywhere. It’s a complete wash on the mat, where Strickland’s wrestling and submission chops reign supreme, and Strickland’s jab combines with his three-inch reach advantage to make the stand up equally perilous.
    Marshman’s one ray of hope lies in simply outworking Strickland, who can be hesitant to actually let his power punches go. Considering Strickland’s monumental edge on the ground, though, the likelier outcome sees him lean on his wrestling for an early takedown and quick submission.
    Prediction: Strickland via first-round submission
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    A couple main card fights...


    185 lbs.: Uriah Hall vs. Anderson Silva

    Uriah “Prime Time” Hall
    Record: 15-9 | Age: 36 | Betting line: -225
    Wins: 11 KO/TKO, 1 SUB, 3 DEC | Losses: 4 KO/TKO, 0 SUB, 5 DEC
    Height: 6’0“ | Reach: 79” | Stance: Orthodox
    Significant Strikes Landed Per Minute: 3.31 | Striking accuracy: 50%
    Strikes Absorbed Per Minute: 3.57 | Striking Defense: 53%
    Takedown Average: 0.75 (38% accuracy) | Takedown Defense: 69%
    Current Ranking: No. 10 | Last fight: Split-decision win over Antonio Carlos Jr.
    Anderson “The Spider” Silva
    Record: 34-10, 1 NC | Age: 45 | Betting line: +185
    Wins: 23 KO/TKO, 3 SUB, 8 DEC | Losses: 3 KO/TKO, 2 SUB, 4 DEC, 1 DQ
    Height: 6’2“ | Reach: 77” | Stance: Southpaw
    Significant Strikes Landed Per Minute: 3.04 | Striking accuracy: 62%
    Strikes Absorbed Per Minute: 1.98 | Striking Defense: 61%
    Takedown Average: 0.52 (77% accuracy) | Takedown Defense: 69%
    Current Ranking: Unranked | Last fight: TKO loss to Jared Cannonier
    Uriah Hall came into the promotion by way of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 17 where he was coached by former 185-pound title contender Chael Sonnen. At the time of filming, “The American Gangster” started filling Hall’s head with dreams of defeating then-middleweight champion Anderson Silva. It was a nice fantasy bolstered by sensational knockout wins over regional rejects like Adam Cella and Bubba Jenkins, but as Hall quickly learned in the season finale, where he was shut down by the rough-and-tumble Kelvin Gastelum, landing the highlight-reel knockout is difficult when your opponent refuses to stand still. A follow-up loss to veteran journeyman John Howard established the fact that “Prime Time” was not a mixed martial artist but rather a gifted striker who was too stubborn to develop a Plan B. Instead of finding a solid MMA gym with experienced coaches, Hall opted to bounce around from camp-to-camp before landing at Fortis MMA. It’s probably too late to reinvent the wheel at age 36 but he won’t have to if UFC matchmakers play to his strengths, as they did with the rapidly-declining Silva. It’s not like “The Spider” is going to shoot for a takedown unless he wants to troll us, so Hall should find himself in his comfort zone from bell-to-bell.
    While I’m from the school that believes Silva should have retired several years ago, pitting him against Hall feels less abusive than his recent pairing against Israel Adesanya, though you could argue “Prime Time” is sort of like Diet Stylebender and presents many of the same problems. In addition, Silva is halfway to his 46th birthday and has traditionally relied on his speed, timing, and dexterity to outclass his opponents, attributes that don’t exactly improve with age. We also can’t exclude the damage Silva has taken in the second half of his career because the days of dropping hands and eating punches are long gone. The last time that worked was against Stephan Bonnar over eight years ago and since that fight the Brazilian has lost six of eight, but I wouldn’t be celebrating his victory over Derek Brunson at UFC 208 because the judges gave him that decision in the same way Applebees gives you a free dessert on your birthday. I don’t want to use soft language here or dance around the obvious: Silva is a broken-down fighter who is far past his expiration date. There just hasn’t been anything from him in recent years to challenge that assessment and for those of us who were present during the glory years, the fall of “The Spider” has been hard to watch.
    I would not expect a fast-paced, high-volume bout for this weekend’s headliner but that doesn’t mean it won’t be entertaining. The era of Silva marching forward and putting the hammer down ended with the Rich Franklin snuff film at UFC 77. Similarly, Hall likes to pick his shots and wait for openings rather than create them. A fight like this means nothing in the middleweight division and the result has no impact on the career trajectory for either combatant, so they’re likely to be content with a glorified sparring match or spinning-shit exhibition. If that’s the case, I’m siding with the athlete who is nearly a decade younger and coming off back-to-back victories. It’s not like Silva needs a miracle to win, we just have to accept that when it comes to fighting Hall, Father Time has already done most of the heavy lifting.
    Prediction: Hall def. Silva by unanimous decision
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    145 lbs.: Andre Fili vs. Bryce Mitchell

    Andre “Touchy” Fili
    Record: 21-7 | Age: 30 | Betting line: +125
    Wins: 9 KO/TKO, 3 SUB, 9 DEC | Losses: 2 KO/TKO, 2 SUB, 3 DEC
    Height: 5’11“ | Reach: 74” | Stance: Orthodox
    Significant Strikes Landed Per Minute: 3.90 | Striking accuracy: 36%
    Strikes Absorbed Per Minute: 3.97 | Striking Defense: 53%
    Takedown Average: 2.71 (49% accuracy) | Takedown Defense: 69%
    Current Ranking: Unranked | Last fight: Split-decision win over Charles Jourdain
    Bryce “Thug Nasty” Mitchell
    Record: 13-0 | Age: 26 | Betting line: -145
    Wins: 0 KO/TKO, 9 SUB, 4 DEC | Losses: 0 KO/TKO, 0 SUB, 0 DEC
    Height: 5’10“ | Reach: 70” | Stance: Southpaw
    Significant Strikes Landed Per Minute: 2.05 | Striking accuracy: 59%
    Strikes Absorbed Per Minute: 1.36 | Striking Defense: 58%
    Takedown Average: 2.13 (41% accuracy) | Takedown Defense: 33%
    Current Ranking: No. 15 | Last fight: Unanimous decision win over Charles Rosa
    Andre Fili signed with UFC back in 2013 when he was just 23 and was widely regarded as one of the best featherweight prospects in all of MMA, thanks to a 12-1 record and an eight-fight winning streak with five nasty finishes. His Octagon debut did not disappoint, as “Touchy” laid waste to veteran bruiser Jeremy Larsen at UFC 166 in Houston. The promotion quickly paired him off against another young upstart in the form of Max Holloway, who unbeknownst to anyone in combat sports, was about to embark on one of the greatest runs in the history of the division. Since getting submitted by “Blessed” at UFC 172, Fili has put together a ho-hum record of 8-5, a far cry from his regional days when he was smashing everyone in sight. Now 30 and coming off a split-decision win over Charles Jourdain, the Team Alpha Male (TAM) product needs to get something going — and fast — if he wants to crack the Top 15.
    That’s where opponent Bryce Mitchell sits at No. 15, thanks to four straight wins under the UFC banner, which includes his memorable twister submission over Matt Sayles at UFC on ESPN 7. I know the majority of fight fans will recognize “Thug Nasty” more for his power drill accident than his in-cage accomplishments and that’s unfortunate; but hey, when you rip your nutsack in half and upload a picture of your bloody boxers, you can expect that kind of thing to stick with you for a couple of years. Something else that stuck with him was the submission loss he suffered against Brad Katona on TUF 27, which took place in Feb. 2018. Not exactly ancient history. I know we’re not supposed to count exhibition bouts but c’mon, a fight is a fight. We should also point out that Mitchell has yet to score a knockout in his professional career and all his amateur wins came by way of either submission or decision, so the 26 year-old grappler still has something to prove in this division.
    Mitchell feels like the easy pick here and the odds reflect that. “Thug Nasty” has continued to win while Fili has struggled to stay consistent. That said, I’m not ready to discount what “Touchy” has done throughout his UFC tenure because he’s fought some brutal competition. Aside from Holloway, Fili has also gone to war against the likes of Yair Rodriguez and Calvin Kattar, two killers currently ranked in the Top 6. Even Michael Johnson and Dennis Bermudez represent a level of competition that Mitchell has yet to encounter in his short time with UFC. Sorry, I’m not breaking out the party hats for Charles Rosa, who is 4-4 inside the Octagon, or unheralded newbies like Bobby Moffett and Tyler Diamond. Fili hasn't established himself as a world beater but one thing he has established is a wealth of experience. As good as Mitchell can be on the ground, I don’t think he’s going to show “Touchy” anything he hasn’t already seen from more dangerous fighters.
    Prediction: Fili def. Mitchell by unanimous decision

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    Update:

    Cole Williams misses weight by 4.5 pounds.

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    I'm just thrilled that this card isn't an early start time again.. Whew!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    I'm just thrilled that this card isn't an early start time again.. Whew!!!
    A little earlier then usual with the 4pm EST prelims start, but they want to have the main event finished before Tank/Cruz starts.

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    Hardy misses weight. Looks like they're giving him another hour.

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    He passed---
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    Hardy misses weight. Looks like they're giving him another hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    He passed---
    Yup, that was a close one

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    $$$ coming in on fili bigtime

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