1. 01-20-18 07:28 PM #281
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    who you'll have in the next one

    FLYWEIGHT BOUT+115 Ortiz vs Pantoja -135
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  2. 01-20-18 07:30 PM #282
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    Quote Originally Posted by dvb02 View Post
    who you'll have in the next one

    FLYWEIGHT BOUT+115 Ortiz vs Pantoja -135
    I've got Pantoja, hopefully by Submission.
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  3. 01-20-18 07:30 PM #283
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    Leaned Pantoja but passed
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  4. 01-20-18 07:30 PM #284
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    thanks Hugo!
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  5. 01-20-18 07:30 PM #285
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    Quote Originally Posted by TPowell View Post
    Leaned Pantoja but passed
    same
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  6. 01-20-18 07:31 PM #286
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    Quote Originally Posted by dvb02 View Post
    thanks Hugo!
    Sure man. Best of luck tonight.
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  7. 01-20-18 07:32 PM #287
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    Wow Pantoja all the way to +money. That is surprising line movement.
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  8. 01-20-18 07:32 PM #288
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    Anyone else feel a real sense of relief when a fight comes up that you DON'T have a bet on? A nice little stress free scrap. My pick is Ortiz here but I have it capped as pretty much a dead even fight. I think controlling the clinch will be a huge factor.
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  9. 01-20-18 07:33 PM #289
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    I'll dance. Put about a unit on Pantoja at the +110
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  10. 01-20-18 07:34 PM #290
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  11. 01-20-18 07:35 PM #291
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    Taking a shot on Pantoja @ +120.
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  12. 01-20-18 07:36 PM #292
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shagdogy View Post
    He generally has very good fight IQ. This was uncharacteristic. Maybe it was lack of game planning for this specific opponent throughout this camp?
    i agree with tpowell's analysis so i might have jumped to conclusion on barz's IQ. i didn't see round 1, but people were saying his wad was half empty after r1. smart that he would conserve energy for r3
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  13. 01-20-18 07:39 PM #293
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    Man, Ortiz really does get his back taken a lot.
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    Pantoja had him in real danger there.
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  15. 01-20-18 07:42 PM #295
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    I think Pantoja is tired.

    Ortiz isn't tired at all.

    We'll see tho.
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  16. 01-20-18 07:43 PM #296
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    Live Hedge:
    Ortiz (+260) 1u

    Should still be a 10-9 Pantoja for R1 but I don't like the way that Ortiz finished that round. He may have stolen back some of the momentum at the end of R1.
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    19-19 through 2
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    Pantoja is gassed
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  19. 01-20-18 07:49 PM #299
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    19-19 through 2
    New unified rules tonight or no? If they are, then that first round was prob 10-8 on some cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Live Hedge:
    Ortiz (+260) 1u

    Should still be a 10-9 Pantoja for R1 but I don't like the way that Ortiz finished that round. He may have stolen back some of the momentum at the end of R1.
    hell of a good bet. i don't usually live bet, but most of the live bet is usually solely based on how both fighters are breathing in between rounds lol
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  21. 01-20-18 07:49 PM #301
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanity Check View Post
    I think Pantoja is tired.

    Ortiz isn't tired at all.

    We'll see tho.
    Looks like I was right.

    Pantoja is being more efficient and tactical but Ortiz seems to have more energy.

    Wrestling/grappling with Henry Cejudo helping Pantoja big time here.
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    Too bad Pantoja didn't get that early choke. Would have been a huge win for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shagdogy View Post
    Boston has a track record. This is nothing new.
    Go live in black neighborhood. They have a much worse track record for treating white people like sh!t
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shagdogy View Post
    New unified rules tonight or no? If they are, then that first round was prob 10-8 on some cards.
    I think old rules but not 100% sure.
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  25. 01-20-18 07:51 PM #305
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoKing View Post
    hell of a good bet. i don't usually live bet, but most of the live bet is usually solely based on how both fighters are breathing in between rounds lol
    Honestly that's not a bad strategy.
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    Too bad we couldn't bet on Ortiz getting his back taken in fights. It really does seem like it's every fight lol
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    I hope Pantoja doesn't win.

    Hate to see guys do nothing and win off holding positions.
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    I'll go Pantoja 29-28.
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  29. 01-20-18 07:54 PM #309
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    Close fight. I've got it 29-28 Pantoja but 29-28 Ortiz is fine too.
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  30. 01-20-18 07:55 PM #310
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMANick View Post
    Too bad we couldn't bet on Ortiz getting his back taken in fights. It really does seem like it's every fight lol
    (-1000) every fight lol.
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    Ortiz just shoots himself in the foot. Outside of two dumb, rushed decisions that led to getting his back taken, he won this fight.
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    In judging fights, I'll take 4 minutes of control over 45 seconds of grazing punches. We're probably looking at a Split DEC.
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    Not a robbery, but not the right call either.
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    All three judges? Hmmmm.
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    I'm kinda surprised that was a UD for Ortiz.
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