[Hugo de Naranja]

I tried last event with zero interest...

someone else's turn to host..I'll join if someone starts one though

Fire? Shaggy? Turbo?

[Hugo de Naranja]

BJ? GoBlue? Rysn?

[PaperTrail07]

IN

[PaperTrail07]

JIBBBERS......its like a roulette wheel....forget the past penetrating event! Your UFC is tried and true over your time here

[PaperTrail07]

Guy did run off NUNYA LOL LOL....BUT he was somewhat an arrogant prick that could ever stand being "wrong"....lol...

[PaperTrail07]

Repost rules and post the 100 points on the post to enter

[MMANick]

Jake is hosting a picking/betting contest for this card. 100 BetPoint entry fee. Who wants to participate?

Is it most winners? I want in, but gotta get to 100 pts first lol

[PaperTrail07]

hit the SBR roulette table and give it a spin LOL

Is it most winners? I want in, but gotta get to 100 pts first lol

[firekillex]

id be down for big ufc cards, this card doesnt do much for me ...
ufc 219 in a few weeks i bet wed get more interest in that

[Hugo de Naranja]

Is it most winners? I want in, but gotta get to 100 pts first lol

I’d be happy to loan you the difference if we can get enough people interested.

[Demonata]

I would enter but not a pro yet.

[MMANick]

I’d be happy to loan you the difference if we can get enough people interested.

I'll try to get it, if not I'll take your loan and pay you back right away.

[Shagdogy]

Man, second card in a row im way behind on my capping. Have only gotten to a few fights. Worked out nicely for me last card, maybe I can get lucky again.

[turbozed]

Jake is hosting a picking/betting contest for this card. 100 BetPoint entry fee. Who wants to participate?

Count me in Hugo.

[JollyRogerMMA]

I would take Lawler small if I could shake Nick Diaz Stockton slapping him into a face plant.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

id be down for big ufc cards, this card doesnt do much for me ...
ufc 219 in a few weeks i bet wed get more interest in that

lol you cheap fukk won't even come off 100 betpoints

[JIBBBY]

I piss my bet points away and give them back to SBR in the casino slots when ever I get up a few hundred points lately.. I probably should stop doing that and start building them back up again.. I just get bored some times and I know I'll never cash out bet points so I get up a few hundred then play the slots when drunk and lose them all ...

I don't do that with my real money accounts Thanks God..

Enjoy the tourney fellas I'm taking a pass.. May the best man win!!!!

[Sato]

I piss my bet points away and give them back to SBR in the casino slots when ever I get up a few hundred points lately.. I probably should stop doing that and start building them back up again.. I just get bored some times and I know I'll never cash out bet points so I get up a few hundred then play the slots when drunk and lose them all ...

I don't do that with my real money accounts Thanks God..

Enjoy the tourney fellas I'm taking a pass.. May the best man win!!!!

You should drink less. Enjoy life with a clear view. Not like this.

[JIBBBY]

You should drink less. Enjoy life with a clear view. Not like this.

I agree Sato, better to be sober in life and dialed in always with a clear mind.

I'm single, retired and paid.. What can I do? Idle time is the devils play ground as they say..

I only have a few glasses of red wine at night Sato but they are big glasses.. I never drink in the day time.. I'm actually in great shape and in very good health in my late 40's, I work out every day even with my broken toe, my diet is perfect.. Lean meats, fruits and veggies.. I'm good to go...

Few glasses of red wine every night is actually good for you but I do over do it on the weekends sometimes.. I can't lie...

I've posted pictures of myself in the past.. Still 6'5" 240 muscular and lean.. I can still throw down too if have too.. I was always a very good athlete..

[Demonata]

You should drink less. Enjoy life with a clear view. Not like this.

No, everyone should drink more!!

[JIBBBY]

No, everyone should drink more!!

Datta boy....

[firekillex]

I would enter but not a pro yet.

go pro buddy you can do it with your 3k points... im pretty sure

[firekillex]

lol you cheap fukk won't even come off 100 betpoints

all my times is into crypto right now jakey... call me the "Real king of cryptos"
but nah this card id just be throwing 100 points away, ufc 219 in 2 weeks ill do that for sure because ill actually be into that card

[Demonata]

go pro buddy you can do it with your 3k points... im pretty sure

Thanks man but you would of had to be pro already to renew it that way. Now i think you have to donate $100 to a charity pr something. I'll probably do it for ufc 219.

[PaperTrail07]

This had me ROLLING lol.... Gonna hear about this toe YEARS from now LOL LOL JK

I agree Sato, better to be sober in life and dialed in always with a clear mind.

I'm single, retired and paid.. What can I do? Idle time is the devils play ground as they say..

I only have a few glasses of red wine at night Sato but they are big glasses.. I never drink in the day time.. I'm actually in great shape and in very good health in my late 40's, I work out every day even with my broken toe, my diet is perfect.. Lean meats, fruits and veggies.. I'm good to go...

Few glasses of red wine every night is actually good for you but I do over do it on the weekends sometimes.. I can't lie...

I've posted pictures of myself in the past.. Still 6'5" 240 muscular and lean.. I can still throw down too if have too.. I was always a very good athlete..

[PaperTrail07]

Ok fellas....Broke down the winners here....

Juicy BUT A LOCK : MARQUEZ......the guy is simply an animal and will steamroll Stewart within 1 round....with ease....

UFC Fighting
Selection : M. Perry/S. Ponzinibbio 12/16/2017 5:45PM - (PST) Total Points OVER 1½ +100 for Game

UFC Fighting
Selection : G. Teixeira 12/16/2017 5:15PM - (PST) Money Line +135 for Game

UFC Fighting
Selection : J. Cannonier 12/16/2017 2:00PM - (PST) Money Line -170 for Game

UFC Fighting
Selection : Ju. Marquez 12/16/2017 2:00PM - (PST) Money Line -345 for Game

UFC Fighting
Selection : C. Laprise 12/16/2017 2:00PM - (PST) Money Line -155 for Game

UFC Fighting
Selection : T. Elliot 12/16/2017 2:00PM - (PST) Money Line -260 for Game

UFC Fighting
Selection : A. Di Chirico 12/16/2017 2:00PM - (PST) Money Line -130 for Game

[Shagdogy]

Kinda liking my man Bofando against Laprise here. Looks like this fight will be a kickboxing match and that plays directly into Bofando's #1 strength. He stays so far out of range and blitzes in so quickly that I think Laprise will have trouble to get clean shots in. He will have to counter Bofando real cleanly as he comes forward but Bofando is the faster guy and he keeps his head safe by leading with kicks often.

Hard to imagine the judges not giving the nod to the Tristar boy though. Maybe play Bofando TKO/KO? I don't feel as confident that he gets the finish as much as I think he just leads the exchanges.

[PaperTrail07]

7:00PM

1542 Marquez points handicap

-3½ -185

POUND IT

Sat 12/16

1521 Marquez wins in round 1

+175

Sat 12/16

1523 Marquez wins in round 2

+450

[PaperTrail07]

I don't think Laprise will be that overwhelmed by the spinning attacks ect....weather the storm and after round 1 it SHOULD be all Laprise IMO...

Kinda liking my man Bofando against Laprise here. Looks like this fight will be a kickboxing match and that plays directly into Bofando's #1 strength. He stays so far out of range and blitzes in so quickly that I think Laprise will have trouble to get clean shots in. He will have to counter Bofando real cleanly as he comes forward but Bofando is the faster guy and he keeps his head safe by leading with kicks often.

Hard to imagine the judges not giving the nod to the Tristar boy though. Maybe play Bofando TKO/KO? I don't feel as confident that he gets the finish as much as I think he just leads the exchanges.

[JIBBBY]

Write ups coming out... MMA mania short read previews..






205 lbs.: Jan Blachowicz vs. Jared Cannonier

Jan Blachowicz (20-7) stepped into the cage in October with his back against the wall, having lost four of his previous five fights. Despite this, he managed to delight the Gdansk, Poland, crowd with a rear-naked choke of the favored Devin Clark that earned him “Performance of the Night.”
He steps in for Antonio Rogerio Nogueira — who ran into USADA trouble — on a month’s notice.
Jared Cannonier (10-2) split a pair of bouts at Heavyweight before making the drop to 205 pounds, where he upset power-puncher Ion Cutelaba in his first appearance. A loss to Glove Teixeira slowed his rise, but he reminded fans just what he could do with his savaging of late replacement Nick Roehrick in July.
Six of his eight stoppage wins have come in the first round.
I’ll admit I was wrong about Blachowicz’s chances in his last fight. All the same, I’m picking him to lose badly here. Cannonier, despite that bulky appearance, will most likely have the edge in cardio on top of his superior output and power. Moreover, he’s tough enough to trade bombs with Cutelaba for 15 minutes, making a Blachowicz knockout a remote possibility.
Blachowicz has a jaw on him, too, but not enough volume to sway the judges away from Cannonier’s sledgehammers. Cannonier outworks, outmuscles and outslugs Blachowicz for a one-sided decision win.
Prediction: Cannonier via unanimous decision


185 lbs.: Darren Stewart vs. Julian Marquez

Darren Stewart (7-2) earned a technical knockout victory in his UFC debut, only to have it switched to a “No Contest” when replays revealed an unintentional head butt. Subsequent fights went even more poorly for him, as Francimar Barroso avenged the head butt with a decision win and Karl Roberson spoiled his Middleweight debut with a first-round submission.
“The Dentist” replaces Vitor Miranda on around two weeks’ notice.
Despite knocking out his previous two opponents in a combined 2:28, Julian Marquez (6-1) entered his “Tuesday Night Contender Series” fight as the B-side to prospect Phil Hawes. Undaunted, he went on to produce one of the series’ best highlights with a second-round head kick knockout.
He has stopped all six of his professional opponents with strikes before the halfway point of the second round.
I’m torn between wanting UFC to cut Stewart so he can develop more and wanting them to keep him on for taking this fight on late notice. That’s a decision it’ll have to make after they peel him off the canvas.
Marquez was in trouble against Miranda, who’s lethal when given room to operate on the feet. Stewart, on the other hand, is a far lesser striking technician and is not sufficiently adept in the wrestling to take Marquez out of his comfort zone. “The Cuban Missile Crisis” does to Stewart what his namesake did to international relations sometime in the second round.
Prediction: Marquez via second-round technical knockout


170 lbs.: Chad Laprise vs. Galore Bofando

Chad Laprise (12-2) got off to a perfect (3-0) UFC start before an upset knockout loss to Francisco Trinaldo slowed his momentum to a crawl. A subsequent loss to Ross Pearson didn’t help matters, but brutal knockouts of Thibault Gouti and Brian Camozzi certainly did.
Seven of the professional wins for “The Disciple” have come by form of knockout.
Galore Bofando (5-2) entered UFC in the midst of a 2.5-year layoff and with just one fight since 2012. He showed not a lick of ring rust, however, scoring a wild slam knockout of Charlie Ward in Glasgow, Scotland.
Both of Bofando’s losses came by disqualification.
Bofando is clearly capable of some absurd finishes, but it’s not yet clear whether his overall game can keep up with his kicking prowess. Laprise, on the other hand, is a capable technician in every area and packs some sneaky power in his hands.
We’re going to learn a lot about Bofando here. Most likely, nothing too positive. There’s just not enough on his resume to suggest he can handle a rounded, composed fighter who won’t be cowed by his theatrics ... especially now that he’s 35 years old. Laprise’s boxing should keep him afloat on the feet until he can start implementing his takedowns and cruising to victory from top position.
Prediction: Laprise via unanimous decision


125 lbs.: Tim Elliott vs. Pietro Menga

Despite a couple of close calls, Tim Elliott (14-8-1) came out on top on The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 24 and gave Demetrious Johnson a run for his money on the Finale. He proceeded to out-duel Louis Smolka in UFC on FOX 24’s “Fight of the Night,” but an ill-advised scramble against Ben Nguyen resulted in Elliott’s first submission loss since 2014.
Counting his TUF bouts, he has won eight of his last 10 fights.
Pedro Menga (13-0) — one of Europe’s top Flyweight prospects — has earned 11 stoppages in his 13 wins, eight in the first round. He earned the latest of them on his biggest stage to date as he scored a 41-second knockout in his Bellator debut.
He steps in for the injured Justin Scoggins on short notice.
Menga is an excellent signing, a top-flight grappler with power in his left hand. What he isn’t is a proven takedown artist, which is a skill that’s generally mandatory when dealing with Elliott. Elliott’s sheer size, pressure and scrambling ability are a pain for grapplers to deal with and that iron jaw can stand up to anything Menga dishes out.
If Menga had a complete training camp, he’d have a real shot at catching Elliott in transition. As is, expect him to do well early before Elliott’s pace wears him down and leaves him on the wrong end of the decision.
Prediction: Elliott via unanimous decision


155 lbs.: John Makdessi vs. Abel Trujillo

Times have been tough for John Makdessi (14-6),who hit a 1-3 skid from 2014 through 2015. He managed to keep himself afloat with a decision over Mehdi Baghdad, only to wind up on the wrong end of 2016’s “Knockout of the Year” against Lando Vannata.
“The Bull” was originally scheduled to fight Sage Northcutt in July before both he and Northcutt suffered injuries.
Coming off a loss to Tony Ferguson, Abel Trujillo (15-7) put together the longest win streak of his UFC career with three straight victories, although one was a submission loss to Gleison Tibau before the Brazilian failed a drug test. This set the stage for a fight with the rising James Vick, who overwhelmed Trujillo and ultimately finished him by submission in the third round.
He has knocked out seven professional opponents, though none in the last three years.
Neither of these guys are what we thought they were. Makdessi isn’t the dominant technical striker he looked like at the start and Trujillo’s power has been nowhere to be seen in recent years. Trujillo’s had a better run lately, but this looks like Makdessi’s fight to lose.
Makdessi can absorb a huge amount of punishment — he walked through everything Donald Cerrone could offer until his jaw gave out and it took a perfect wheel kick for Vannata to get him out of there. He can survive the five-to-seven minutes in which Trujillo is a threat and take over with long kicks and a stiff jab for the rest. Cardio and technique win this for “The Bull.”
Prediction: Makdessi via unanimous decision


185 lbs.: Alessio Di Chirico vs. Oluwale Bamgbose

Alessio Di Chirico (10-2) knocked out and submitted four opponents apiece before making his UFC debut in 2016 against Bojan Velickovic, who edged the Italian by split decision. He has since scraped past former EFC champ Garreth McLellan and suffered a first-round submission loss to Eric Spicely.
This will be his first fight in almost 11 months because of injury.
Following an unsuccessful debut against Uriah Hall, Oluwale Bamgbose (6-3) demonstrated the lights-out power that had earned him five first-round stoppages by decking Daniel Sarafian in 60 seconds. Lightning has yet to strike again, however, and he steps into the cage this Saturday on a two-fight losing streak.
All of his professional wins have come in 3:18 or less.
Bamgbose is built to win (or lose) big. There is no in-between. His power is absolutely legit, but he has no sense of setups, pacing, or really any major aspect of mixed martial arts (MMA) beyond throwing punches as hard as he possibly can and hoping for the best.
The man tried a double axe handle against Paulo Borrachinha, for God’s sake.
Di Chirico has been mediocre throughout his UFC tenure, but he knows what he’s doing on the ground and hasn’t shown any major defensive liabilities that Bamgbose could exploit in the three minutes before his gas tank empties. He stays out of trouble early before hitting a takedown and choking him out.
Prediction: Di Chirico via second-round submission

170 lbs.: Jordan Mein vs. Erick Silva

Jordan Mein (30-12) called it a career in 2015 after Thiago Alves — fighting back from a disastrous first round — knocked him out with a savage body kick. He made his return in Dec. 2016, but has yet to taste victory, turning in listless performances against Emil Meek and Belal Muhammad.
Though just 28, he made his amateur mixed martial arts (MMA) debut nearly 16 years ago.
Once viewed as a future star in the Welterweight division, Erick Silva (19-8) is just 1-3 since his 2015 submission of Josh Koscheck. He managed to rebound from his one-punch knockout loss to Nordine Taleb by choking out Luan Chagas, but suffered a technical knockout loss to Yancy Medeiros in his native Brazil this past June.
He owns 12 professional wins by submission.
Hoo boy ... I’m surprised the cage can handle the weight of the wasted talent inside it. Mein is a legitimate stud on the feet, but his wrestling is lackluster and he’s looked flat-out disinterested since returning to the cage. I’m tempted to pick him anyway considering Silva’s shaky chin and history of lackluster performances but, if nothing else, Silva is active and strong on the mat.
And beating Chagas is more impressive than anything Mein’s done in his comeback.
So long as Silva doesn’t get too comfortable on the feet, I say he saps Mein’s will with takedowns and submission attempts before ultimately locking up the rear-naked choke sometime in the second round.
Prediction: Silva via second-round submission

170 lbs.: Nordine Taleb vs. Danny Roberts

Two unsuccessful bids on The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) weren’t enough to slow Nordine Taleb (13-4), who has gone 5-2 in the organization itself. After giving the surging Santiago Ponzinibbio a great fight in February, he shut down Swedish karateka Oliver Enkamp in hostile territory three months later.
He was originally booked to fight Sultan Aliev, while Danny Roberts (14-2) was supposed to take on Sheldon Westcott.
“Hot Chocolate” took out Nathan Coy and Dominique Steele in his first two Octagon appearances before suffering a knockout loss to Mike Perry with just 20 seconds left in the fight. He rebounded in a big way in September by knocking Bobby Nash cold in Glasgow.
He owns six professional wins by knockout and another five by submission.
I wasn’t high on Taleb early in his UFC career, as I couldn’t put aside the memory of his one-sided beating from the much smaller Marius Zaromskis or find anything noteworthy in his robotic striking, but he’s grown on me. He’s got thudding kicks, solid wrestling, and a chin that stood up to the best Ponzinibbio could dish out.
Roberts has a similar generalist skillset, which should make for a fun, competitive fight. Taleb’s kicks and sheer physicality have me leaning his way, though, and he’s got the durability to survive Roberts’ punches. Taleb edges the striking at range in between power takedowns for the decision.
Prediction: Taleb via unanimous decision

[turbozed]

Here is my breakdown for Silva/Mein:

Both Erick Silva and Jordan Mein have had long UFC careers. Silva since 2011 and Mein since 2013. During this time both guys have been solid and exciting fighters but neither have been able to string together more than a couple of wins and break into top 10 territory. Now with both guys on the downslope of their careers, a run for either doesn't seem likely.

Mein has dropped his last three fights. Despite looking competitive in the first round of each fight (and very good in the first of the Alves fight), Mein's volume and intensity significantly drops off afterwards. Against Alves, this meant being a bit too defensive and relying on a high guard that Alves exploited with a nice liver kick. Against Meek Mill and Belal Muhammad, Mein was unable to prevent being outgrappled and controlled for the final two rounds. This is particularly troubling in the Muhammad fight since Mein looked especially conservative with his energy usage in the first round and still was at a significant fatigue disadvantage in the later rounds.

Despite being only 28 years old Mein's slowdown doesn't seem too surprising. The man has been fighting professionally since 2006 and his first fight listed is in 2002. That's about 11 years of professional service and 42 fights. One would imagine his body might be slowing down now. More proof of that is Mein retirement after the KO loss to Alves and near 2 year absence.

Erick Silva has had a rough going in the past couple of years. Dropping 3 out of the last 4 fights, and not looking like the aggressive and frenetic fighter that he used to (and a noticeable loss of leanness) has got people wondering whether the USADA era has led to a significant decline for Silva.

Whether or not USADA is a factor, one would expect at this point for Silva to slow down regardless. Now 33 years old and in fighting service for 12 years, Silva has had to alter his fighting style recently to stay competitive. After getting faceplant KO'd spectacularly by Nordine Taleb, Silva has tightened up his striking considerably. Against Chagas, Silva was able to control the range and throw shorter and more balanced strikes than his former self. Against Medeiros, he added a bit more defensive movement and feints.

With the longer reach and more impressive striking performances in his resume, it would seem like Mein has an advantage on the feet here. A few years ago, Mein's varied offense and aggression would seem to be a very tough matchup for Silva's lack of defense. Now, with both guys lowering their volume and aggression, the striking is a bit more even.

After the first round, this fight will be Silva's fight to lose though. Silva doesn't slow down quite as much as Mein does come round 2, and was even to get a finish against Chagas in Rd3. Mein is just too content in his past 3 losses to defend and react to what his opponent is doing in the later part of the fight to be reliable at round winning. The fact that he's been outgrappled in the last 2 is also a problem as Silva is a submission threat for all three rounds.

Silva at underdog odds looks enticing in this spot. If Mein's decline and lowered volume is a trend, the O1.5 rounds looks pretty nice too at -130. Both guys aren't the wild go-forward strikers they once were, and despite Silva's suspect chin and propensity get sent to the mat often (whether he gets his clean or not), his recovery isn't too bad. A bad early stoppage against Medeiros was a lucky hit for bettors fading Silva's chin in his last fight and Yancy was throwing full force in that 2nd round.

[firekillex]

Mein by TKO mark my words

[turbozed]

Here is my breakdown for Bofando/Laprise:

35 year old Bofando was pretty much retired from fighting before being called up for a European card to face off against Charlie Ward. There isn't a record of Bofando making it out of the first round in any of his MMA fights. He's been able to put everyone out in the 1st round. Bofando hasn't faced anyone reasonably skilled in his MMA career, however, so it's difficult to judge what his skill level is. To be fighting for 7 years and not being able to find a reasonably skilled opponent is a bit fishy, however. Agreeing to a modified rules "MMA" fight with no grappling or clinching might be an indication as to why Bofando's record looks so protected.

Though Chad Laprise isn't the strong wrestler that will take Bofando down and dominate on the mat, he still looks like a bad matchup for Bofando. Laprise has fought quality opponents at LW in Barbarena and Trinaldo. With only one fight at 170, he still had a dominant performance against Brian Camozzi earning fight of the night. Though looking small for the weight class, his cardio looked improved at his WW debut.

Laprise has solid defensive footwork and cuts angles nicely during striking exchanges. Whatever strikes that do land usually land on Laprise's solid guard or are glancing. With the bladed stance, Bofando will have to avoid jumping in and overcommitting as Laprise's counters are generally sharp. Bofando also is prone to having his kicks caught by opponents, something which against Laprise will end up with him eating a flurry or getting put on his back.

Bofando will need to rely on his athleticism and flashes of explosiveness in order to have any success here. These traits may be diminished now out of his fighting prime, and there is a big question mark as to how long his weapons will stay sharp throughout 3 rounds. As long as Laprise can avoid some highlight reel headkick or a big left hand, the more likely his experience and more well-rounded game should win him the fight.


For this fight I bet on Laprise ML with a small hedge on Bofando Rd1. Live betting after Rd1 might be a good idea, but I can't get enough down on LB unfortunately.

[turbozed]

Mein by TKO mark my words

I think that would've been the case a couple years ago, but I have a feeling this is gonna look like Means/Muhammed. Mein will have a shot at the TKO in the 1st because of Silva's chin, but after that he's going to be at a disadvantage.

[firekillex]

I think that would've been the case a couple years ago, but I have a feeling this is gonna look like Means/Muhammed. Mein will have a shot at the TKO in the 1st because of Silva's chin, but after that he's going to be at a disadvantage.

i agree Mein hasnt improved at all, i actually thought he couldve been a future champ but he got into the game to early and lost his fire for the game imo... he was just as skilled as a guy like Rory... But since USADA i havent been impressed with Silva at all... Mein fighting in his home country after giving up his last fight in Canada i think he shows what hes really capable of... this is basically for his entire career this fight, i think he hurts Silva and doesnt let off the gas pedal and gets a finish rd 1 or 2

i just really hope he doesnt give up because he is extremely talented offensively but defensively he is lacking big time