1. 02-13-15 11:05 PM #141
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    Wow! He's really taking it hard. A little pathetic.
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  2. 02-13-15 11:55 PM #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by fitguy67 View Post
    Good luck to all, whichever side of the physical-mismatch you're on...(outside of the bible...Goliath usually wins)
    in fairness...the more obviously physically endowed don't always win...four relatively soft-bodied guys that have made a career out of beating much-more-imposing monsters on the regular are Jeremy Horn (a true pioneer of the sport, but looked like a bus-driver), Fedor Emilianenko (who in today's UFC would be a MW...smashed every top HW in the world for a decade), Daniel Cormier ("the black Fedor"...undefeated at HW...but at LHW still looks like he could go down a class...if he could just stay away from the "cake and chicken"), and Shlemenko (another guy with a bus-driver body)...who just an hour ago cost me a bit of coin against Manhoef.

    So, the tale of the tape definitely ain't everything...but it should NEVER be overlooked...and you should have a DAMN good reason to go against it...in this Bendo/Hatch fight...it was amazing how everyone just ASSUMED Bendo would have the cardio advantage...maybe he will, we'll see...but to just assume that a handy advantage (and the "weathering the storm" path to victory that hinges on it) exists to counteract the obvious size disadvantage is anything but sharp...it's wishful thinking...and with a payout well south of 2-to-1, uber-expensive wishful thinking.
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  3. 02-14-15 12:45 AM #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by fitguy67 View Post
    reliable sources indicated that all/most the geniuses at the "other" place will have once again let their wannabe-sharpness lead them to overlook the obvious physical advantages of the opponent...as they did in enthusiastically backing
    *Shlemenko over Tito, then
    *Cormier over Jones...
    and now--going for the faux-sharp myopia trifecta--by backing
    *Bendo over Thatch

    May god have mercy on our bankrolls! Good luck to all, whichever side of the physical-mismatch you're on...(outside of the bible...Goliath usually wins)
    Don't forget Alex Chambers.
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  4. 02-14-15 02:13 AM #144
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    oops!...i just went back and read this little exchange...
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_Paul_2012 View Post
    So are all the knuckleheads "over there" on Bendo? Thatch is going to bring the RUCKUS!

    Quote Originally Posted by marzwoody View Post
    nope i think there all on thatch actually.
    meaning that the brain-trusts "over there" may have to settle for the MyopiaTripleCrown...for backing an obviously-underweight Shlemenko vs. Tito, an obviously-underweight Chambers vs. Day, and a terribly-under-reached Cormier vs. Jones...

    how they managed to miss this obvious mush-play of an undersized Bendo puzzles me...and makes me fear a bit for my Thatch and Thatch-3.5 positions

    oh well, "blind squirrel", finding nuts and all that...
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    Bensons gonna get fukked up.
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  6. 02-14-15 10:55 AM #146
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    Only one play today for me.

    Kind of glad Lentz was scratch or I might have been sweating some JUUUICE. lol
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  7. 02-14-15 11:15 AM #147
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    After all the shit I say I find myself betting thatch lol.....hope you guys are right
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    Man against boy.. All in on Thatch!!!!
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  9. 02-14-15 12:04 PM #149
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    After all the shit I say I find myself betting thatch lol.....hope you guys are right
    we or together pal...

    i had some earlier at -120, and just topped it up with some more at -138

    also took thatch -3.5hc, +120
    thatch itd,+140
    u2.5, +135
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    hey pt, why don't you hit the hemp-inspired "pre-view event" mode this afternoon...and come up with another one of your small-stake/mega-payout parlays...feel free to turn off the left-brain and include Bendo as a winner in this play, if so moved...i'll definitely tail
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    I mean You said it.....Thatch just has WAYYYY to much size here.....I have a feeling we Party!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by fitguy67 View Post
    we or together pal...

    i had some earlier at -120, and just topped it up with some more at -138

    also took thatch -3.5hc, +120
    thatch itd,+140
    u2.5, +135
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    hey pt, why don't you hit the hemp-inspired "pre-view event" mode this afternoon...and come up with another one of your small-stake/mega-payout parlays...feel free to turn off the left-brain and include Bendo as a winner in this play, if so moved...i'll definitely tail
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    #1) UFC Fighting
    Selection : B. Thatch 2/14/2015 9:35PM - (PST) Money Line -145 for Game

    #2) UFC Fighting
    Selection : M. Holloway 2/14/2015 9:05PM - (PST) Money Line -420 for Game

    #3) UFC Fighting
    Selection : N. Magny 2/14/2015 8:30PM - (PST) Money Line -785 for Game

    #4) UFC Fighting
    Selection : M R Dos Prazeres 2/14/2015 7:35PM - (PST) Money Line +125 for Game

    #5) UFC Fighting
    Selection : R. Borg 2/14/2015 7:05PM - (PST) Money Line -880 for Game

    #6) UFC Fighting
    Selection : R. Lima 2/14/2015 6:05PM - (PST) Money Line -130 for Game

    #7) UFC Fighting
    Selection : Z. Makovsky 2/14/2015 5:00PM - (PST) Money Line -105 for Game

    #8) UFC Fighting
    Selection : J. Moontasri 2/14/2015 4:30PM - (PST) Money Line -225 for Game

    Risking : 30.00 To Win : 854.55 USD
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    #1) UFC Fighting
    Selection : B. Henderson 2/14/2015 9:35PM - (PST) Money Line +125 for Game

    #2) UFC Fighting
    Selection : C. Miller 2/14/2015 9:05PM - (PST) Money Line +320 for Game

    #3) UFC Fighting
    Selection : D. Kelly 2/14/2015 8:05PM - (PST) Money Line +135 for Game

    #4) UFC Fighting
    Selection : M R Dos Prazeres 2/14/2015 7:35PM - (PST) Money Line +125 for Game

    #5) UFC Fighting
    Selection : E. Escudero 2/14/2015 6:05PM - (PST) Money Line +110 for Game

    #6) UFC Fighting
    Selection : T. Elliot 2/14/2015 5:00PM - (PST) Money Line -115 for Game

    Risking : 35.00 To Win : 6,831.10 USD
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  13. 02-14-15 12:51 PM #153
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    Straight Bets on Thatch, Prazeras, Makovsky, Moontasari----GL EVERYONE Lets make some $$
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    ^^Big spender Paper with those poorlay's.. Good luck man..

    I stick to my measly 5 buck beeeotch card parlay bets myself..

    Feb 14, 2015 01:57:16 PM 10 Team Parlay #396542891
    Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
    Both must Fight for Action.
    UFC Fight Night 60 - 1st Bank Center, Broomfield, Colorado, United States
    (6002) James "Moonwalker" Moontasri -235 Feb 14/15@07:30p
    Competitor: (6003) Cody "The Pfist" Pfister
    Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
    Both must Fight for Action.
    UFC Fight Night 60 - 1st Bank Center, Broomfield, Colorado, United States
    (6005) Tim Elliott -115 Feb 14/15@08:00p
    Competitor: (6004) Zach "Fun Size" Makovsky
    Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
    Both must Fight for Action.
    UFC Fight Night 60 - 1st Bank Center, Broomfield, Colorado, United States
    (6006) Chas "The Scrapper" Skelly -240 Feb 14/15@08:30p
    Competitor: (6007) Jim "The Beast" Alers
    Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
    Both must Fight for Action.
    UFC Fight Night 60 - 1st Bank Center, Broomfield, Colorado, United States
    (6009) Rodrigo "Monstro" Lima -130 Feb 14/15@09:00p
    Competitor: (6008) Efrain Escudero
    Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
    Both must Fight for Action.
    UFC Fight Night 60 - 1st Bank Center, Broomfield, Colorado, United States
    (6010) Ray "The Tazmexican Devil" Borg -900 Feb 14/15@10:00p
    Competitor: (6011) Chris "The Greek Assassin" Kelades
    Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
    Both must Fight for Action.
    UFC Fight Night 60 - 1st Bank Center, Broomfield, Colorado, United States
    (6013) Michel "Trator" Prazeres +130 Feb 14/15@10:30p
    Competitor: (6012) Kevin "The Motown Phenom" Lee
    Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
    Both must Fight for Action.
    UFC Fight Night 60 - 1st Bank Center, Broomfield, Colorado, United States
    (6014) Patrick "The Beast Of The East" Walsh -170 Feb 14/15@10:45p
    Competitor: (6015) Daniel Kelly
    Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
    Both must Fight for Action.
    UFC Fight Night 60 - 1st Bank Center, Broomfield, Colorado, United States
    (6016) Neil Magny -700 Feb 14/15@11:00p
    Competitor: (6017) Kiichi "Strasser" Kunimoto
    Mixed Martial Arts (Game) Moneyline
    Both must Fight for Action.
    UFC Fight Night 60 - 1st Bank Center, Broomfield, Colorado, United States
    (6018) Max "Blessed" Holloway -400 Feb 14/15@11:30p
    Competitor: (6019) Cole "Magrinho" Miller
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    Both must Fight for Action.
    UFC Fight Night 60 - 1st Bank Center, Broomfield, Colorado, United States
    (6020) Brandon "Rukus" Thatch -155 Feb 14/15@11:45p
    Competitor: (6021) Benson "Hendo" Henderson    		 Web US$ 5.00 US$ 313.60
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  15. 02-14-15 01:00 PM #155
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    Odds have changed so much in the last 2 weeks. Betting was really lucrative on Holloway/Magny 2 weeks ago. Henderson got a nice push that made him and Thatch almost even because of people not knowing who Thatch is. That changed drastically in the last day after the weight ins and some articles. We have to be step ahead of the "general public" to get better odds in the future.
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    paper, you put the small dog prazeres in both versions of your rainmaker...and i see the money's moved in that direction a bit overall as well (from +170 open to +135ish now)...

    any thinking on this fight (from pt, or anyone else familiar with these fighters) 'preciated
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    Over/Under bets -

    Decided to hit this 2 teamer rounds bet below... Was gonna throw Chas Skelly over -200 in this parlay but came in too late with it.. Going solo with that bet.. $200 to win $100

    Parlay $100.00 $91.00 U.F.C. U.F.C. - Michel Prazeres vs Kevin LeeTotal O 2½ -245 for Fight Lines U.F.C. U.F.C. - Tim Elliott vs Zach MakovskyTotal O 2½ -280 for Fight Lines
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    Makovsky gonna kill him @+100 odds!!! Take em! 4 hours till fight time.
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    HaHa Jibbbby Kind of 35$ is change to almost anyone......ty for the vibes though
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    Personally I have a lot of respect for Prazeres and Lee has too much hype....I think it just fits Prazeres Style...He will be too strong here IMO
    Quote Originally Posted by fitguy67 View Post
    paper, you put the small dog prazeres in both versions of your rainmaker...and i see the money's moved in that direction a bit overall as well (from +170 open to +135ish now)...

    any thinking on this fight (from pt, or anyone else familiar with these fighters) 'preciated
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    Prazeres could possibly kill this $$
    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Over/Under bets -

    Decided to hit this 2 teamer rounds bet below... Was gonna throw Chas Skelly over -200 in this parlay but came in too late with it.. Going solo with that bet.. $200 to win $100

    Parlay $100.00 $91.00 U.F.C. U.F.C. - Michel Prazeres vs Kevin LeeTotal O 2½ -245 for Fight Lines U.F.C. U.F.C. - Tim Elliott vs Zach MakovskyTotal O 2½ -280 for Fight Lines
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    When Makovsky chokes him out it's gonna be killed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    Personally I have a lot of respect for Prazeres and Lee has too much hype....I think it just fits Prazeres Style...He will be too strong here IMO
    good enough...if you got prazzy winning in both of the pre-event simulations you ran in your smokey alpha-state mind...that's good enough for me...i remember a handful of events ago, i just couldn't picture--literally, i couldn't construct any video simulations in my mind in which--Shogun would beat OSP...the left-brain, looking at the -200ish odds on Shogun wanted to see it...but the mind just couldn't/wouldn't do it...same with Phil Davis over Rumble a while back--just couldn't picture it...even tho' he was, again a -200-ish favorite...

    and folding in the fact that Prazzy's the only dog the Jib-monster took the trouble to include in his otherwise all-chalk parlay...means Prazzy it is

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    Makovsky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
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    haha I lost a nice chunk of change betting Phil Davis in that fight......SMH>.....
    Quote Originally Posted by fitguy67 View Post
    good enough...if you got prazzy winning in both of the pre-event simulations you ran in your smokey alpha-state mind...that's good enough for me...i remember a handful of events ago, i just couldn't picture--literally, i couldn't construct any video simulations in my mind in which--Shogun would beat OSP...the left-brain, looking at the -200ish odds on Shogun wanted to see it...but the mind just couldn't/wouldn't do it...same with Phil Davis over Rumble a while back--just couldn't picture it...even tho' he was, again a -200-ish favorite...

    and folding in the fact that Prazzy's the only dog the Jib-monster took the trouble to include in his otherwise all-chalk parlay...means Prazzy it is

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    but putting together a multi-legged lotter-payout ticket is the opposite: right-brained/intuitive/subjective
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleChael View Post
    Makovsky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
    Good luck with that Unc..

    I think Tim Elliot gets him in a decision win.. Both are grinders and hard to finish and that's why I took the over.. Tim got choked out by Benavidez in his last fight and I certainly don't see that happening again in this fight..

    http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Tim-Elliott-49213
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    Is there Value on either side of the Holloway fight? Don't see him finishing the fight but you'd figure he wins via Decision.....Miller somehow races up to over +400 Im on it....Right ? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    Prazeres could possibly kill this $$
    Maybe but Kevin Lee is a pretty durable kid.. His last 3 fights all went to the cards.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Kevin-Lee-84342
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    Same with the borg fight....it almost shouldn't be happening....we get it Borg is a ver skilled fighter...-880 no play +580 on the other side....F off....mayb if it was +800 or more...
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    Agree....I see prazares tossing him around
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    Maybe but Kevin Lee is a pretty durable kid.. His last 3 fights all went to the cards.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Kevin-Lee-84342
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    Pocket change prop bets I have up on the board.. Long shots but I'm thinking a couple will land which will then turn a profit.... (thinking Thatch props will hit mainly, maybe the Holloway one too as all the others are just back up insurance for my straight plays if they go sour)

    292377448-1 2/11/15 7:23pm $20.00 $100.00 Pending 2/14/15 11:59pm Props Fighting 1015 Thatch wins in round 1 +500* vs Any other result
    292323446-1 2/11/15 12:28pm $5.00 $65.00 Pending 2/14/15 11:30pm Props Fighting 1227 Kunimoto wins by submission +1300* vs Any other result
    291749444-1 2/7/15 8:41pm $10.00 $52.00 Pending 2/14/15 11:00pm Props Fighting 1331 Kelly wins by submission +520* vs Any other result
    291738044-1 2/7/15 7:48pm $40.00 $80.00 Pending 2/14/15 11:59pm Props Fighting 1133 Holloway wins by TKO/KO +200* vs Any other result
    291631444-1 2/7/15 2:01pm $40.00 $68.00 Pending 2/14/15 11:59pm Props Fighting 1037 Thatch wins by TKO/KO +170* vs Any other result
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iamcloud View Post
    Odds have changed so much in the last 2 weeks. Betting was really lucrative on Holloway/Magny 2 weeks ago. Henderson got a nice push that made him and Thatch almost even because of people not knowing who Thatch is. That changed drastically in the last day after the weight ins and some articles. We have to be step ahead of the "general public" to get better odds in the future.
    good post...and in exactly this context, I'm pleased to announce the first nomination for the sub-forum's first-annual "sharp as a bowling ball" award...

    to build a little suspense (and to prevent those who claim to here "just to get betpoints" from seeing it accidentally), you'll have to go back to page two of this thread...then read everything from the top of that page until you get to post #39...which is the nomination, and early prohibitive favorite...
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    Perfectly predicted the opposite lol.....head WAS in the ballpark though....he looked undersized/weaker.....Thatch got more of a push
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    I forgot to mention my under round bets.. I just have this one 2 teamer pending... That's about all I got other then all my straight plays.. Showed my hand on this event thread...

    02/14 01:23 PM 1469866856- 1 Parlay $95.00 $323.00 U.F.C. U.F.C. - Benson Henderson vs Brandon ThatchTotal U 2½ +115 for Fight Lines U.F.C. U.F.C. - Cole Miller vs Max HollowayTotal U 2½ +105 for Fight Lines
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  35. 02-14-15 04:38 PM #175
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    Going with Thatch here as well.
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