[44 Mag]

LAD @ STL : STL even to win. WIN
STL: over 7. Loss
Wash @ SF : SF -132 to win. Loss
SF: over 5.5 -148. Loss

16/262.218.19/20.1

[RollinDo]

These 2 look tough to call.
Fister a tough cookie on the road.
Bum been struggling at home...Nats not hitting...Giants post-season tough...yeah, I guess Giants are the play.
I would take Ryu over Lackey almost any day, but it's post-season, and that's a big reason Cards got Lackey...and Busch stadium magic...yeah, I think Cards are the play too.
Will check them out later.
Giants NL winners are my only future bet left...

Bet on Oakland and Detroit earlier in the season...LAA when post-season began.
I think futures work better with nba...can't believe how badly these teams faded after the break.

[44 Mag]

We should stick to NFL. Went 6-3-1 yesterday and I had SD, but game was 3 minutes in so I didn't post it. MLB is starting to suck. LOL.

[riffraff24]

Tough game to call. Who knows what Ryu we get tonight coming off an injury. I heard he looked really good in the simulation game, but thats a simulation game. However the extra base hits vs each pitcher stands out quite a bit regardless of the number of plate appearances.

[44 Mag]

Good info. Never been a big fan of Lackey. Hoping the STL bats come to life. BUT, I said that yesterday about Detroit, and that turned out well LOL.

[RollinDo]

Looks like it could be a low - scoring game Riff.
Thanks for the data.

[RollinDo]

We should stick to NFL. Went 6-3-1 yesterday and I had SD, but game was 3 minutes in so I didn't post it. MLB is starting to suck. LOL.

Yeah.
I hardly bet nfl, but my instinct picks were right on.
Should nit have taken Jets +7 though to hedge my 2-team parlay with Chargers.
I saw a lot if solid posters on Baltimore too which had me timid in going regular on Colts ML...certainly helps to have a few games into the season to start to get a feel for these teams.
Still trying to get a feel for mlb teams this year...LOL

[riffraff24]

I wouldnt touch the under. Reasons:

Uribe 4 doubles, Crawford 3 doubles and 2 homers vs Lackey.
We dont know how Ryu is going to hold up
Dodgers pen is atrocious

[44 Mag]

No offense, but the Jets??? Three time zones away vs. SD @ home. Man you got brass taking them @ the time. Oh well, I had the Lions @ home and they blew it. How does their new FG kicker miss all three??? This is their replacement guy, they got rid of the other one. LOL.

[RollinDo]

I wouldnt touch the under. Reasons:

Uribe 4 doubles, Crawford 3 doubles and 2 homers vs Lackey.
We dont know how Ryu is going to hold up
Dodgers pen is atrocious

Thanks...actually was not going to since totals have destroyed me since late August.
BUT, I do like the Under in SF, but is it too late?
I missed both Unders in first 2 games of series.

[RollinDo]

Mag
Hockey starts this week and nba around the corner!

[44 Mag]

I wouldnt touch the under. Reasons:

Uribe 4 doubles, Crawford 3 doubles and 2 homers vs Lackey.
We dont know how Ryu is going to hold up
Dodgers pen is atrocious

OK. Advise on TT's: both set @ 3.5 right now ???

[44 Mag]

Mag
Hockey starts this week and nba around the corner!

You guys on here will have to teach me about hockey, know "0". Stopped watching when the Bruins traded Bobby Orr, true.

[RollinDo]

No offense, but the Jets??? Three time zones away vs. SD @ home. Man you got brass taking them @ the time. Oh well, I had the Lions @ home and they blew it. How does their new FG kicker miss all three??? This is their replacement guy, they got rid of the other one. LOL.

To answer your question about Jets...was afraid to lose bet with Chargers...does 3 time zones really have that much of an impact though?
Lions looked easy...The reason they got a replacement was to cut down on payroll...they know both kickers would miss all their FGs anyway...ha ha

[RollinDo]

Didn't Ocho Cinco have some success kicking?
Maybe that's the Lions next option??

[44 Mag]

Oh yes it makes a big difference, time zones in NFL.

[44 Mag]

Didn't Ocho Cinco have some success kicking?
Maybe that's the Lions next option??

He doesn't exist, he changed his name back, whatever that was.

[riffraff24]

You guys on here will have to teach me about hockey, know "0". Stopped watching when the Bruins traded Bobby Orr, true.

Hockey is great to bet live. Cant wait! Gonna see my Kings raise a banner on Wednesday.

[RollinDo]

Hockey is great to bet live. Cant wait! Gonna see my Kings raise a banner on Wednesday.

Do You bet live when actually watching a game?
Or just have your mind set on who you think will win and then make a bet if/when they go down a goal?
I pretty much have to make my bets before the game...probably go with more dogs this year and bet good teams like Kings when they go on a 3 - game win streak, or Hawks/ Blues after a loss. Also Anaheim tough at home.
Maybe bet them -1 every home game unless they are not as dominant from the outset.

[riffraff24]

Do You bet live when actually watching a game?
Or just have your mind set on who you think will win and then make a bet if/when they go down a goal?
I pretty much have to make my bets before the game...probably go with more dogs this year and bet good teams like Kings when they go on a 3 - game win streak, or Hawks/ Blues after a loss. Also Anaheim tough at home.
Maybe bet them -1 every home game unless they are not as dominant from the outset.

Yeah most of the time I need to be watching the game. Sometimes i'll take a blind stab at a heavily juiced favorite that went down a goal early. The Kings made me a KILLING in their 2 cup runs. I took them pretty much every time they went down 1 or 2 goals this past post season and they just kept winning.

[twestacott]

These 2 look tough to call.
Fister a tough cookie on the road.
Bum been struggling at home...Nats not hitting...Giants post-season tough...yeah, I guess Giants are the play.
I would take Ryu over Lackey almost any day, but it's post-season, and that's a big reason Cards got Lackey...and Busch stadium magic...yeah, I think Cards are the play too.

In what a pie eating contest?????? Lackey is bulldog and although he hasnt had a great last couple of starts he lives for these kind of games and will be ramped up in a big game at home.

[44 Mag]

In what a pie eating contest?????? Lackey is bulldog and although he hasnt had a great last couple of starts he lives for these kind of games and will be ramped up in a big game at home.

Funny stuff.

[RollinDo]

In what a pie eating contest?????? Lackey is bulldog and although he hasnt had a great last couple of starts he lives for these kind of games and will be ramped up in a big game at home.

I agree though I have never seen Lackey pitch before...saw Ryu a little and was impressed. Cards seem to hit lefties a bit better this year than last, but not many have hut Ryu well.
I agree that Cards probably take this one and eventually win the series. If they win tonight, I think tomorrow is all she write for Dodger hopefuls.

[riffraff24]

In what a pie eating contest?????? Lackey is bulldog and although he hasnt had a great last couple of starts he lives for these kind of games and will be ramped up in a big game at home.

Do we think Lackey feels at home in St. Louis?

[BeanTownClown88]

I like STL...RYU is over rated and gets bombed in big road games. Lackey is underrated and is a bull dog, doesnt give up many runs and can rise up even higher in a big game. Money moving on LAD making me think twice but in the end I will prolly b on STL too

[RollinDo]

Think I'm going with what worked yesterday...

StL +1 (-134)
Nats +1 (-140)

[twestacott]

Do we think Lackey feels at home in St. Louis?

Well he asked to be traded to a contender and immediately indicated he will honor the clause in his agreement which requires him to pitch for the league minimum next year. If he didn't want to pitch in St. Louis I doubt he would honor that. He also has typically pitched well at Busch Stadium

[riffraff24]

Well he asked to be traded to a contender and immediately indicated he will honor the clause in his agreement which requires him to pitch for the league minimum next year. If he didn't want to pitch in St. Louis I doubt he would honor that. He also has typically pitched well at Busch Stadium

No i totally get it. I'm just trying to imagine what that scenario would be like.

[44 Mag]

OK, riff. We need to know who you are committed to tonight, if anybody. You make some excellent points, very in depth analysis. Would really like your selection on a least one of these games, please sir. You don't have to commit, just asking.

[RollinDo]

Yeah Riff.
You are knowledgeable with these west coast teams.
I am really torn on this Nats game.
Leaning Nats +1 (-139).

[riffraff24]

Ok lets see what we got...

Nats	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
1. Denard Span (L) CF	8	1	0	0	0	1	0	2	0.125	0.111	0.125	0.236
2. Anthony Rendon (R) 3B	5	3	1	0	0	0	0	2	0.600	0.600	0.800	1.400
3. Jayson Werth (R) RF	11	2	0	1	0	1	1	2	0.182	0.250	0.364	0.614
4. Adam LaRoche (L) 1B	21	6	3	0	0	1	0	8	0.286	0.286	0.429	0.714
5. Ian Desmond (R) SS	15	5	1	0	0	2	1	5	0.333	0.375	0.400	0.775
6. Bryce Harper (L) LF	9	3	0	0	1	1	0	2	0.333	0.333	0.667	1.000
7. Wilson Ramos (R) C	8	2	2	0	0	1	0	1	0.250	0.250	0.500	0.750
8. Asdrubal Cabrera (S) 2B	3	2	0	0	0	1	0	0	0.667	0.667	0.667	1.333
9. Doug Fister (L) P
	80	24	7	1	1	8	2	22	0.300	0.359	0.494	0.853
Giants	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
1. Gregor Blanco (L) CF	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	0.000	0.000	0.000	0.000
2. Joe Panik (L) 2B	3	3	0	0	1	3	0	0	1.000	1.000	2.000	3.000
3. Buster Posey (R) C	6	1	0	0	1	1	0	0	0.167	0.167	0.667	0.833
4. Pablo Sandoval (S) 3B	5	4	1	0	0	0	1	0	0.800	0.833	1.000	1.833
5. Hunter Pence (R) RF	6	1	0	0	0	0	0	1	0.167	0.167	0.167	0.333
6. Brandon Belt (L) 1B
7. Brandon Crawford (L) SS	5	1	0	0	0	0	0	1	0.200	0.200	0.200	0.400
8. Travis Ishikawa (L) LF	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	2	0.000	0.000	0.000	0.000
9. Madison Bumgarner (R) P
	31	10	1	0	2	4	1	5	0.323	0.338	0.576	0.914

Fister is 1-0 in SF, 1-1 over all, and throwing a 2.77 ERA
Bumfuk is 0-1 vs WAS throwing a 2.57 ERA

Nothing stands out too much other than the amount of doubles the Nats have hit off Bumfuk. This game is pretty close to a coinflip to me so i'd go with the +123 Nats. I probably will end up taking them, just trying to talk myself into fading the Giants this time of year. Might have to hold my balls all game.

GL boys gotta run into a meeting....

[44 Mag]

Man, according to these stats, SF is out hit almost 2 1/2-1, YIKES. And, 2-1 in RBI's . Doesn't bode well for SF. Maybe RYU will have a meltdown??? He's right. Looks like a coin toss, but most of them did to begin with.

[riffraff24]

Don't miss the fact that the Nats have seen Bumfuk 49 more at bats.

[44 Mag]

Thanks brother, very good insight. Are you a GM for MLB ??? If not should be. The Red Sox need one desperately.

[44 Mag]

LAD @ STL : STL even to win. WIN
STL: over 7. Loss
Wash @ SF : SF -132 to win. Loss
SF: over 5.5 -148. Loss

16/262.218.19/20.1

Adding: Washington TT over 3 even. WIN