1. 03-28-18 09:08 AM #1
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    Ostapenko - Svitolina

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    Can I please get your thoughts on this match.

    I think 3.40 on Ostapenko is tempting, though Svitolina is rightly the favourite.
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  2. 03-28-18 10:15 AM #2
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    20-25 mph winds again today. Svit 3-0 vs top
    10 opponents this year. Osta has an easier path in Miami regarding the draw. Both players have ? 2nd serves. I might take a shot with Osta but very small play if that.
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  3. 03-28-18 10:19 AM #3
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    There were tons of break point opportunities in their only match at Wimbledon. 2nd serve issues against each other was what I was referring to above. Can osta hit through svit defense. That’s the real question
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  4. 03-28-18 10:23 AM #4
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    Plus 4.5 games is tempting on osta
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  5. 03-28-18 10:55 AM #5
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    I have svit 2-0 @-114
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  6. 03-28-18 11:00 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexalexex View Post
    Plus 4.5 games is tempting on osta
    agreed
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  7. 03-28-18 11:08 AM #7
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    With lots of potential break point opportunities I’m in for plus 4.5 games osta
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  8. 03-28-18 11:15 AM #8
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    Why is Svit such a favorite here? My book has -265. Nuts.
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  9. 03-28-18 11:18 AM #9
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    In only head to head svit was 4 of 15 on break points. Osta was 6 of 10. Svit was up 5-2 in 2nd set and lost it in a tie breaker. Both svit and osta last 2 rounds went over the total also.
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  10. 03-28-18 11:43 AM #10
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    Love the game line, book doesn't have it. I can't find the guts to take Osto ML, so Svit ML it is for me. I see a close match as well so here's to hoping we all win with a 6-4;6-4 Svit advance.
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  11. 03-28-18 12:42 PM #11
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    So many lost serves. I'm heavy on Svitolina so hopefully she can come back.
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  12. 03-28-18 12:45 PM #12
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    This match is frustrating for both sides. 5 breaks and counting..
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  13. 03-28-18 12:47 PM #13
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    Both their return win rates are higher than their service win rates. Oh the WTA - gotta love it (I guess).
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  14. 03-28-18 01:13 PM #14
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    Nobody mentioned +1.5 set Osta

    Worried she might tank the 2nd set and burn the game handicap. Hope Im wrong.
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  15. 03-28-18 01:24 PM #15
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    Good point. In hindsight, anything is up for grabs at this rate. Who knows what'll happen.
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  16. 03-28-18 01:35 PM #16
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    Break fest.
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  17. 03-28-18 01:39 PM #17
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    is svitolina injured? or just a mental idiot
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  18. 03-28-18 01:54 PM #18
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    not sure which oyster was fixing harder.
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  19. 03-28-18 01:58 PM #19
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    Won a fluke bet placed when Svit was up 3-2 in the 2nd set.

    Placed 03/28/2018 11:24 AM
    OSTAPENKO, J VS. SVITOLINA, E -
    Risk: 10.00 - Win: 163.70
    RBL - Correct Score in Set 2
    OSTAPENKO, J 7:6 SVITOLINA, E
    Game start 03/28/2018 11:27 AM
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  20. 03-28-18 02:03 PM #20
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    Wow. Just wow. That's what I get for backing such a big WTA fave. Tell me Osto gets broke 3 times in each of the first two sets and I'd probably throw the mortgage on Svit.
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    damn ostapenko couldnt miss
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  22. 03-28-18 03:01 PM #22
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    Welk done on calling the value on miss Ostapenko.
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  23. 03-29-18 05:21 AM #23
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    Ostapenko will win another major this year at this rate. I'd take her over S.W. or anyone else for that matter. If she hits the shots, she can't be beat. it's a very simple concept. She is physically superior to just about any girl out there.
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  24. 03-29-18 08:09 AM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grivas_Digeni View Post
    Ostapenko will win another major this year at this rate. I'd take her over S.W. or anyone else for that matter. If she hits the shots, she can't be beat. it's a very simple concept. She is physically superior to just about any girl out there.
    In what way? If we're talking about her heavy ball, there's bunch of girls that can hit just as hard.
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  25. 03-29-18 11:27 AM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grivas_Digeni View Post
    Ostapenko will win another major this year at this rate. I'd take her over S.W. or anyone else for that matter. If she hits the shots, she can't be beat. it's a very simple concept. She is physically superior to just about any girl out there.
    Being someone who was on Ostapenko before anyone knew who she was (I had her +10000 at Rolland Garros last year), I'm not sure about her winning a major this year just yet.
    I don't think you've watched her much in 2018. She's been a disaster for most of it.
    She's ran lucky this week though and racked up a few wins.
    Basically caught Svitolina on a brutal day of chokes and shoulda lost, beat Kvitova who was struggling all week, had a cake walk against Maia who isn't a real threat to begin with, and beat babos who choked on every single break point she had the whole match and should have won honestly (I bet Osta in this one and felt like I stole something when she won).
    Love rooting for Osta but she's not in any kind of form right now to be excited about and can play much better than she has so far in 2018.
    We will see how her confidence changes when the clay season starts though. Having that French title should pump her up a bit in a few weeks.
    I think Collins beats her today.
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  26. 03-29-18 11:29 AM #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyBigNuts View Post
    Being someone who was on Ostapenko before anyone knew who she was (I had her +10000 at Rolland Garros last year), I'm not sure about her winning a major this year just yet.
    I don't think you've watched her much in 2018. She's been a disaster for most of it.
    She's ran lucky this week though and racked up a few wins.
    Basically caught Svitolina on a brutal day of chokes and shoulda lost, beat Kvitova who was struggling all week, had a cake walk against Maia who isn't a real threat to begin with, and beat babos who choked on every single break point she had the whole match and should have won honestly (I bet Osta in this one and felt like I stole something when she won).
    Love rooting for Osta but she's not in any kind of form right now to be excited about and can play much better than she has so far in 2018.
    We will see how her confidence changes when the clay season starts though. Having that French title should pump her up a bit in a few weeks.
    I think Collins beats her today.
    I agree sir. osta has ran into some luck. Svit looked terrible yesterday. This collins girl is very determined, and doesnt really make many errors. Osta can be an error machine at any given day
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  27. 03-29-18 11:50 AM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyBigNuts View Post
    Being someone who was on Ostapenko before anyone knew who she was (I had her +10000 at Rolland Garros last year), I'm not sure about her winning a major this year just yet.
    I don't think you've watched her much in 2018. She's been a disaster for most of it.
    She's ran lucky this week though and racked up a few wins.
    Basically caught Svitolina on a brutal day of chokes and shoulda lost, beat Kvitova who was struggling all week, had a cake walk against Maia who isn't a real threat to begin with, and beat babos who choked on every single break point she had the whole match and should have won honestly (I bet Osta in this one and felt like I stole something when she won).
    Love rooting for Osta but she's not in any kind of form right now to be excited about and can play much better than she has so far in 2018.
    We will see how her confidence changes when the clay season starts though. Having that French title should pump her up a bit in a few weeks.
    I think Collins beats her today.
    You are right that she had a cupcake draw so far. But I'd argue that luck is the only difference comparing her performances from Miami and earlier tournaments this season. Imho coaching made a big difference here. I know that she is working with David Taylor since december, but for some reason he was not there with her earlier this year. That latvian guy was coming on to the court during time outs and she was just completely lost most of the times. With Taylor in her box, she's doing much better. I think that's the big reason for the improvement.

    But I'm on Collins as well today. Good luck!
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  28. 03-29-18 11:58 AM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honeybadger44 View Post
    You are right that she had a cupcake draw so far. But I'd argue that luck is the only difference comparing her performances from Miami and earlier tournaments this season. Imho coaching made a big difference here. I know that she is working with David Taylor since december, but for some reason he was not there with her earlier this year. That latvian guy was coming on to the court during time outs and she was just completely lost most of the times. With Taylor in her box, she's doing much better. I think that's the big reason for the improvement.

    But I'm on Collins as well today. Good luck!
    Yeah, she's developed quite the attitude with coaches so I'm not really sure what's going on with all that.
    She definitely has a temper....Could be an issue
    The one thing I'll never forget was the awkwardness of this visit........

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    She had that problem in the past. And there's bunch of girls on the tour that just don't take on-court coaching well and are using it just to get their frustration out on somebody. Big loss for them, because it's great adventage for someone that uses it in a positive way. If we get back to Ostapenko, she comunicates really well with Taylor. Very relaxed conversaiton most of the times and implements his advice into her game immidietly.
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