1. 06-05-14 04:58 PM #1
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    Why is Andy Murray +510 ?

    Nadal -710.

    ridiculous. Andy can beat that chump.
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  2. 06-05-14 05:05 PM #2
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    Not a chance bud... Did u watch Andy's last match??? The guy is exhausted
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  3. 06-05-14 05:07 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt1216 View Post
    Not a chance bud... Did u watch Andy's last match??? The guy is exhausted
    what ? exhausted ? think about it called sleep
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  4. 06-05-14 05:09 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Nadal -710.

    ridiculous. Andy can beat that chump.
    Why is Andy +550?? Easy answer. He is gonna lose. So......??? If you want Snow, I will gladly take your action on a ML play tomm
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  5. 06-05-14 05:13 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmoneytx View Post
    Why is Andy +550?? Easy answer. He is gonna lose. So......??? If you want Snow, I will gladly take your action on a ML play tomm
    i respect you. why ? he's Andy. He can beat Nadal even on any court. c'mon. why not ?
    i'm gonna bet it. give me a reason not to.
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  6. 06-05-14 05:18 PM #6
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    Bet him 1st set, if he loses the first he aint winning. His best chance is in that first set
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  7. 06-05-14 05:37 PM #7
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    Yeah, why ? That is almost the same number as Ferrer's number and Ferrer is ten times better than Murray on clay. Trap ? Nah, just too many wankers drooling over Murray's dick.
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  8. 06-05-14 05:42 PM #8
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    sometimes i think people make threads like this just to drive the line down on the opposing player.
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  9. 06-05-14 05:42 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by frugalgambler View Post
    Yeah, why ? That is almost the same number as Ferrer's number and Ferrer is ten times better than Murray on clay. Trap ? Nah, just too many wankers drooling over Murray's dick.
    thanks for another reason to put some scrap on him.
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  10. 06-05-14 08:03 PM #10
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    Dead money. On hard or grass, I'd give you that it'd be worth a small play. On clay with Rafa sniffing the Final and given how he crushed Ferrer in the last couple sets ... hard to see it being worth it. Murray might steal a set if Rafa is a little off like he has been at-times, but it'd be a pretty large upset to see him take more than one set IMO.
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  11. 06-05-14 08:35 PM #11
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    Snow trust me buddy, you're one of my brothers here - don't take Murray, he will get smoked tomorrow. His worst surface against the best clay court specialist the sport has ever seen. I'll be taking Nadal 3-0 and 3-1, as well as -1.5 sets in several parlays. Murray might win the 1st set, which would be good because you'll be able to get a better price on Nadal's ML for the match. If anything you can look at his past match for evidence - the only reason he still won is because Monfils is a bigger choker than he is, simple as that. As square as it may be (picking Nadal I mean), Roland Garros has been set from the beginning to be an epic 5 set Joker/Nadal final.
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  12. 06-05-14 09:09 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaglesPhan36 View Post
    Dead money. On hard or grass, I'd give you that it'd be worth a small play. On clay with Rafa sniffing the Final and given how he crushed Ferrer in the last couple sets ... hard to see it being worth it. Murray might steal a set if Rafa is a little off like he has been at-times, but it'd be a pretty large upset to see him take more than one set IMO.
    It would be worth more than a small play on a more favorable surface but it isn't so that is just engaging in hypotheticals.

    Nadal will crush him in this tournament.
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  13. 06-05-14 09:29 PM #13
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    How bout gulbis plus 610 him and/or Murray could win it could happen as the kid says on angels in the outfield
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  14. 06-05-14 10:58 PM #14
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    Neither has much of a chance but if you really wanna go with an underdog, go with Gulbis and not Murray. Barring some unforeseen injury, Murray simply does not have the stamina to compete against the king of clay, if you can get exhausted playing against the likes of Kohli and Monfils, then you sure as hell ain't winning Nadal on a 5 setters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hossa8110 View Post
    How bout gulbis plus 610 him and/or Murray could win it could happen as the kid says on angels in the outfield
    Well maybe Nadal with break an ankle and Djoker gets 50 time warning calls. Anything is possible. A black hole might hit the Earth any second too. To be fair, I do think Gulbis can take a set and then who knows. Gulbis to win 2nd set is an interesting prop.
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  16. 06-05-14 11:29 PM #16
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    Easy answer here, puncher's chance but the opponent, in this case, needs to either be injured or pick up an injury during the match for Andy to win. If that doesnt happen then youre wasting your money on Andy.
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  17. 06-05-14 11:53 PM #17
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    Nadal and Joker will roll on this one. Can't emphasize it enough that these guys have come too far to lose these matches...in this case its no longer first class clay court players as their opponents. Its a good idea to look into even playing the -5.5 game lines between the two. The value is there along with parlaying -1.5 sets between the two if your not comfortable with the game line.
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  20. 06-06-14 02:45 AM #20
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    Why do I get the feeling you are rooting for Andy, Kenz?
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  21. 06-06-14 02:58 AM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by poet View Post
    Why do I get the feeling you are rooting for Andy, Kenz?


    Better opponent than Nadal in the final for Novak and I want to enjoy a nice semi. I have no idea but I like this guy, maybe I find it quite sympathetic he is the poster child of Brits, their great hope Even my wife flames me when I root for Murray in a game

    Not as entertaining as Fognini getting mad but Andy losing a 30 shot-rally with a ue and instantly holding his back or ankle cracks me up too
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  22. 06-06-14 03:00 AM #22
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    I love Andyyyyyyyy
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  25. 06-06-14 05:19 AM #25
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    me too i like Andy and i hope he'll win Wimbledon again this year
    i really think he's a fantastic player who could have more than 2 slams right now but his motivation is sometimes questionable
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  26. 06-06-14 05:47 AM #26
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    Murray isn't very good on clay that's why he's that price, he's a threat to win 3 out of the 4 Slams at anytime, the French is the one he will never win.

    He could win Wimbledon in a few weeks, his odds to win Wimbledon are shorter than the odds to win this match that tells you all you need to know about his surface preference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottish View Post
    her
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    Quote Originally Posted by tipsadontlikehim View Post
    Hahaha sorry i got distracted they were showing highlights of Bouchard-Shara

    Lovely it was.
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  29. 06-06-14 06:07 AM #29
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    the right question should be "why is Andy ONLY +510?"
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  30. 06-06-14 06:14 AM #30
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    Murray is a good bet

    Nadal in for a tough match
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    I think Murray can take it. Hence why I picked him to win the whole thing in Sharis' thing
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  32. 06-06-14 08:32 AM #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Murray is a good bet

    Nadal in for a tough match
    Nadal 6-0, 6-0, 6-0 it is then
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    Murray +2.5 sets
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  34. 06-06-14 08:52 AM #34
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    Call me crazy but I honestly believe Rafa has a chance to win this. He is tough on Clay and Murray despite being Wimbledon champion has been vulnerable lately. Take Nadal and thank me later.
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  35. 06-06-14 08:54 AM #35
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    1/4 of a unit on Murray for fun this am

    Quote Originally Posted by alamo View Post
    Call me crazy but I honestly believe Rafa has a chance to win this.
    agreed-he seems to have had some moderate success at this tournament in the past
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