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    who has the greater chance of losing - tipsarevic or cilic? - HEDGING advice

    Wager Type : Parlay (4 team)
    Wager Status : PendingRisk / To Win Amount : 200.00 / 652.02(USD)
    Accepted : 6/14/2012 3:41AM - PST

    #1) Wager Type : Money Line
    Outcome : Pending
    Sport / Period : Tennis Other Sports / Game
    Selection : M. Cilic
    Time : 6/14/2012 8:30:01AM - (PST)
    Line : -700
    Game Notes : A full set must be completed for money line wagers to be valid. If a full set is not completed, all money line wagers will be canceled.
    #2) Wager Type : Money Line
    Outcome : Pending
    Sport / Period : Tennis Other Sports / Game
    Selection : J. Tipsarevic
    Time : 6/14/2012 8:30:01AM - (PST)
    Line : -950
    Game Notes : A full set must be completed for money line wagers to be valid. If a full set is not completed, all money line wagers will be canceled.
    #3) Wager Type : Money Line
    Outcome : Win
    Sport / Period : Tennis Other Sports / Game
    Selection : J. Zheng
    Time : 6/14/2012 4:30:01AM - (PST)
    Line : -155
    Game Notes : A full set must be completed for money line wagers to be valid. If a full set is not completed, all money line wagers will be canceled.
    #4) Wager Type : Money Line
    Outcome : Pending
    Sport / Period : Tennis Other Sports / Game
    Selection : M. Oudin
    Time : 6/14/2012 4:00:01AM - (PST)
    Line : +105
    Game Notes : A full set must be completed for money line wagers to be valid. If a full set is not completed, all money line wagers will be canceled.



    i don't really see either having too hard of a time against Lu and Rosol, respectively. Tipsarevic fell from the ridiculous overnight price of -950 to now -705. Thinking about putting a hundy on Lu as a safety net. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tevari View Post
    Wager Type : Parlay (4 team)
    Wager Status : PendingRisk / To Win Amount : 200.00 / 652.02(USD)
    Accepted : 6/14/2012 3:41AM - PST

    #1) Wager Type : Money Line
    Outcome : Pending
    Sport / Period : Tennis Other Sports / Game
    Selection : M. Cilic
    Time : 6/14/2012 8:30:01AM - (PST)
    Line : -700
    Game Notes : A full set must be completed for money line wagers to be valid. If a full set is not completed, all money line wagers will be canceled.
    #2) Wager Type : Money Line
    Outcome : Pending
    Sport / Period : Tennis Other Sports / Game
    Selection : J. Tipsarevic
    Time : 6/14/2012 8:30:01AM - (PST)
    Line : -950
    Game Notes : A full set must be completed for money line wagers to be valid. If a full set is not completed, all money line wagers will be canceled.
    #3) Wager Type : Money Line
    Outcome : Win
    Sport / Period : Tennis Other Sports / Game
    Selection : J. Zheng
    Time : 6/14/2012 4:30:01AM - (PST)
    Line : -155
    Game Notes : A full set must be completed for money line wagers to be valid. If a full set is not completed, all money line wagers will be canceled.
    #4) Wager Type : Money Line
    Outcome : Pending
    Sport / Period : Tennis Other Sports / Game
    Selection : M. Oudin
    Time : 6/14/2012 4:00:01AM - (PST)
    Line : +105
    Game Notes : A full set must be completed for money line wagers to be valid. If a full set is not completed, all money line wagers will be canceled.



    i don't really see either having too hard of a time against Lu and Rosol, respectively. Tipsarevic fell from the ridiculous overnight price of -950 to now -705. Thinking about putting a hundy on Lu as a safety net. Thoughts?
    Tip doesn't have a great history at AEGON but even with that said I can't see either him or Cilic losing. I think you should be fine without hedging.

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    I'm on Lu actually; if I remember correctly, Tipsy was still the favorite, not -700 level favorite (I think my model spit out something closer to -150).

    So given the above statement, I would say Tipsy has a higher chance of losing, but he and Cilic remain favorites.

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    im going to put a hundy on Lu. anytime you get taken into a tiebreak by ryan sweeting suggests bad form or lack of motivation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blax0r View Post
    I'm on Lu actually; if I remember correctly, Tipsy was still the favorite, not -700 level favorite (I think my model spit out something closer to -150).

    So given the above statement, I would say Tipsy has a higher chance of losing, but he and Cilic remain favorites.
    Interesting. Lu did kill me last round in a parlay. Maybe I'll throw something on the moneyline for a little action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tevari View Post
    im going to put a hundy on Lu. anytime you get taken into a tiebreak by ryan sweeting suggests bad form or lack of motivation.

    Totally 100% agree with THIS..

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    Tipsy more likely to lose

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    Get these 4 queens off these courts so my matches can start!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tevari View Post
    im going to put a hundy on Lu. anytime you get taken into a tiebreak by ryan sweeting suggests bad form or lack of motivation.
    It was Tipsarevic's first match on grass and Sweeting had played qualis here + a main draw match. Happens all the time in first-ups where a guy may not dominate the entire match. Look at Nadal today. His result w/Lacko was about the same as Tips w/Sweeting.

    Tipsarevic wins IMO. Cilic should too, but I don't know much about Rosol on this surface other than he beat Baghdatis - but who doesn't beat Baghdatis.

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    Of course, Cilic gets broken. Derp

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    Looks like I hedged the wrong match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tevari View Post
    Looks like I hedged the wrong match.
    Still early, I'm pulling for ya.

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    Cilic looking better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tevari View Post
    Looks like I hedged the wrong match.
    Hopefully, this will turn out to be some kind of reverse-jinx.


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    Lu shitting on Tips.

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    Wish I hadn't been working earlier and could've replied to this. Lu (by far) is the one with whom you should've hedge. OP made the correct decision IMO.

    I would've been stunned if Cilic lost, whereas Tipsy doesn't normally go deep in this tourney. Plus, Lu is an underrtaed grass-courter who probably feels more comfy on the surface this early in the grass-court season.

    Best of luck tevari. I actually have Cilic in a parlay with Malisse and Spain. Decided to put that one together after Kohlschreiber cashed early this morning. Nothing better than a house-money parlay. haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blax0r View Post
    I'm on Lu actually; if I remember correctly, Tipsy was still the favorite, not -700 level favorite (I think my model spit out something closer to -150).

    So given the above statement, I would say Tipsy has a higher chance of losing, but he and Cilic remain favorites.
    When did Lu get good again? He was on a real losing streak before this tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2go2mexico View Post
    When did Lu get good again? He was on a real losing streak before this tournament.
    Well the match isn't over yet, and Lu can still get blown out.

    However, his grass performance history is impressive (relative to other +700 dogs), and should be given more credit. Plus, taking out Karlovic on this surface recently is pretty cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blax0r View Post
    Well the match isn't over yet, and Lu can still get blown out.

    However, his grass performance history is impressive (relative to other +700 dogs), and should be given more credit. Plus, taking out Karlovic on this surface recently is pretty cool.
    That was the match I lost on a 5 teamer parlay so not cool for me lol. I did tail you on this though and put $50 on the +500 moneyline so you seem like you have a lot of good insight.

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    Well. Cilic will close it out. Got Lu at +525. Tips winning would net me 250.00 more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tevari View Post
    Well. Cilic will close it out. Got Lu at +525. Tips winning would net me 250.00 more.
    Lu looks better than I would have ever imagined.

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    Great. Rain.

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    Raining in England. Imagine that.

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    The matches going to be canceled till tomorrow?

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    Hope not. Weather.com calls for 70% showers until late tonight. So, probably.

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    I imagine they'll be able to get the rest of this match in. Really doubt that Nalbandian gets in though.

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    Nevermind: Unfortunately play has been abandoned for the day here at the #AEGONChampionships. Play will resume tomorrow at 11am.

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    Ok thanks guys.

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    Aids.

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    Early start tomorrow with more rain forecast. 6 AM EST tomorrow announced.

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    Hoping Lu comes out flat, but at least i have guaranteed profit w the hedge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tevari View Post
    Hoping Lu comes out flat, but at least i have guaranteed profit w the hedge.
    Books should have a cash out option available in your situation; the guaranteed portion of your winnings is basically tied up until the match resolves.

    Actually, does something like this exist on Betfair, Pinnacle, or some of the other US-avoiding books?

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2go2mexico View Post
    Early start tomorrow with more rain forecast. 6 AM EST tomorrow announced.
    Where you see that?

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    Atp app says 11am start. They are 5 hrs ahead of us on the east=6am est

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    Dude...I was just posting in another thread about hedging Tipsy. Only thing is, hedging would cut about half the profit I would make if Tipsy ends up winning. What to do.....

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