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    WHACK OUR BALLS: Week #2-3, Australian Open

    Okay, #1 - this contest is in no way, shape or form meant to detract from the bracket contests. Ours is set up entirely different and as laid out last week, this is a contest we are running weekly. So please enter both!

    "WHACK OUR BALLS" RULES & FORMAT

    For the Australian Open, the format is a bit different. So please note the changes on the # of picks.

    For this tournament, you will be making FIVE picks per day unless otherwise noted for Rounds 1-3. Of these five picks, ONE per day must be signified as your "Best Bet" by putting "BB" next to it when you post your picks.

    Four of your picks can come from available SPREADS or TOTALS via Pinnacle Sports.
    The 5th pick each day for the 1st THREE rounds will be you picking ONE seeded player [WTA or ATP, #1-#32] that you think will lose.

    Scoring for Correctly Picking a Seeded Player Upset [Rounds 1-3]:
    #1-#4 Loses: +10 units
    #5-#8 Loses: + 7 units
    #9-#12 Loses: +3.5 units
    #13-#22 Loses: +1.75 units
    #23-#32 Loses: +1 unit

    An incorrect pick on a seeded player upset results in these penalties:
    #1-#4 Loses: -5 units
    #5-#8 Loses: -3 units
    #9-#12 Loses: +2 units
    #13-#22 Loses: -1.5 units
    #23-#32 Loses: -1 unit


    So you don't just randomly toss out a top four seed to lose every day and hope to hit, realize that it will be a high risk/high reward type pick the higher the seeded player you choose to lose.

    From the 4th round on, we will go back to making four daily picks unless otherwise noted, again choosing from SPREADS and TOTALS only.

    All picks will be "to win one unit" if betting on a line of -101 or higher and lines of +100 and higher will be "risking one unit.". The Best Bet will be double the bet size. The Best Bet CANNOT APPLY TO THE MONEY LINE DOG you pick each day.

    Your picks can come from any ATP or WTA match taking place during the Australian Open.

    Your picks may only be SPREADS [+/- games] & TOTALS [Over-Under]. NO MONEY LINES.

    Your picks must be made based on lines found at PINNACLE SPORTS only.
    http://www.pinnaclesports.com

    All matches other than the pick on the seeded play to lose must be complete for wagers to stand. In the event of a retirement, you will be given the opportunity to make up that pick either on the same day or the next.

    Matches involving SEEDED players and your picks for them to lose during Rounds 1-3 must complete TWO SETS for the pick to have action.

    When making your selections, your picks must be posted before the scheduled start time for the match you are playing. Any pick posted after a match has begun will result in your picks being DQ'ed for the day. We would suggest that you post all your picks for the day at the same time to avoid running into any problems.

    Picks should be posted in the following format:

    Today's Date
    1. (BB) Montanes -2.5 [-111]
    2. Montanes-Starace Over 22.5 [-102]
    3. Rochus +3.5 [+102]
    4. Rochus-Kamke Over 21.5 [+103]
    5. Seeded Player to Lose: #2 Nadal
    You will be responsible for posting the price listed @ Pinnacle Sports when you make your selections. That does mean there will be some variation in the price even among people who may have the same pick. That is part of the fun. Anyone found to be using an obvious BAD price that was not posted at Pinnacle Sports will be DQ'ed from the competition for the week and any points given toward the prize pot will be kept.

    Upon completion of the final day of picks, anyone who has beaten Tevari/EP36 with a better winning percentage/record & the number of units gained for the week will be declared a winner of a percentage of the prize pot. YOU MUST BEAT THEIR SCORE. If you finish with an identical record/win % and the same amount of units, you do not win that week.

    Anyone who does not pick the required amount of selections for the week will not be eligible to win points no matter what your record was. In other words, if you were required to make 20 picks and you made 18, you are not eligible for prizes.

    The prize pool for each week will be announced after all the contestants have been registered for the week and their entry fees paid.

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    The entry fee for this contest is 10 betpoints. You may pay this fee over the duration of the two week tournament. You MUST be paid in full by the day of the last match or you will not be eligible for the prize payout and your points you have paid to-date will be kept and used for the prize payout.
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    EaglesPhan36
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    First picks should be submitted in this thread on Sunday and each day after that. Please look over the rules carefully. If you have questions, please let us know.

    Please note on the Seeded Player picks - that you need to make sure you are keeping track of what round it is that you are picking a player in since there will probably be a day, maybe two where third and fourth round matches are being played on the same day. You can only pick the seeded player for matches in the first three rounds. Once all third round matches are complete, we go back to picking just four picks per day on spreads and totals.

    If you can pay the 10 point fee now, please do so. Thanks and good luck.

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    Top stuff EP.

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    Also remember that since our contest is for the entire season, you can jump in any time and win points prizes and be eligible for the end of the year prize payout. So don't feel like if you missed out on Week 1 that you can't get in now!

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    moses millsap
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    All entry fees go to the winners?

    Think you should post daily threads with the OOP on top, so we have people betting on matches that scheduled day correctly, since Pinny will post odds for matchups the following days. Also, if you guys are open to suggestions, I would suggest a total # of plays throughout a tourney instead of x number of plays per day. Also, sending picks via pm and having one of you post them after the matches start, so people don't know what the others are playing.

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    We can do picks that way at some point, for right now it's just easier so we don't have to keep track of things 24/7. Maybe we'll do something like the last day or two send via PM for strategy purposes. We'll think that over. I like the daily plays better my own self. I think it makes people challenge themselves to make picks every day and really try to show they know their stuff.

    Entry fees go into a prize pot. Depends if there are any winners or not. If there are winners, then yeah the points will in part go to them. If there are no winners, we keep 'em.

    Just a remind that matches begin tonight ... so get on it.

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    so this week hasnt started? 5 plays per day, a seeded player to lose and 4 other plays, 1 needs to be a double play? is that it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EaglesPhan36 View Post

    Entry fees go into a prize pot. Depends if there are any winners or not. If there are winners, then yeah the points will in part go to them. If there are no winners, we keep 'em.
    What do you mean in part go them? You guys are keeping a % for running the contest?

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    If you don't beat our score, no one wins = we keep the entry fee. Some of it will be used for future prize payouts, some of it will be kept for running the contest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffdane View Post
    so this week hasnt started? 5 plays per day, a seeded player to lose and 4 other plays, 1 needs to be a double play? is that it?
    Contest starts today with Round 1. Yes. Five plays. You pick one seeded player to lose and then your other four picks can be any combination of spreads or totals. NO MONEY LINES allowed.

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    1. V. Lepchenko +5.5 -116 (BB)
    2. J. Huta Galung +1.5 -117
    3. Y-H. Lu -4.5 -118
    4. A. Mannarino +8 +108
    5. Seeded Player To Lose - F. Verdasco

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    1. BB G Muller +5.5 -110
    2. J Ward +1.5 -118
    3. B Paire +5.5 -106
    4. L Kubot +5.5 -114
    5. Seeded Player to Lose: #10 N Almagro

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    Day 1-Monday Jan 16th
    1. Dimitrov -3 -119 (BB)
    2. Fognini +6 -113
    3. Ljubicic/Lacko Over 39.5 +101
    4. Kavcic -1.5 +105
    5. Seed to lose #13-Jankovic

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    A. Rezai +5 +102 BB
    A. Cornet +3 -102
    C. Dellacqua +4 -101
    M. Barthel -4.5 -116
    Seed to lose #25 Juan Monaco

    Think I won week 1, so no entry fee, right?

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    Will let you know when I tally all of that up. Entry fee isn't due until the last day of the Australian Open if people need to wait because of paying for the bracket contest. Certainly you're welcome to pay up front too!

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    EP36 Day 1 Picks [I take all credit/blame]
    1. [BB] Kavcic -1.5 [+105]
    2. Huta-Galung +1.5 [-106]
    3. Beck-Prodon Under 35.5 [+101]
    4. Gojowczyk +3.5 [-104]
    5. Seed to Lose: Ljubicic

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    01-16
    1. (BB) Wozniacki-Rodionova UNDER 17 [+110]
    2. Dimitrov -3.5 [-106]
    3. Kudryavtsev-Federer UNDER 26.5 [-110]
    4. Nalbandian -3 [-106]
    5. Seeded Player to Lose: #22 Verdasco

    EP, I have to pay first 2 points a day for the Bracket Contest but afterwards, I will immediately pay here. Hopefully that is not a problem.

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    No worries. Wish we had more involvement in this, but it is what it is.

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    It'll catch on as the season goes on.

    Could also figure a way to let people join later (with appropriate penalization) once brackets picks are in tatters...

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    Well people are free to join any week they wish. We may consider the earlier suggestion about having a set number of picks per week instead of daily picks so that people can join during the week, but I still like the format better with daily picks. Anywho, we're learning what works and doesn't on the fly.

    We're just encouraging people to play every week as we are tracking this all-season and giving out year-end prizes assuming we have enough participation. I'll have an update on Day 1 here in a little bit.

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    Day 1 Standings
    yezzir 2-2 [+2.40]
    FoolBrittania 2-2 [-2.95]
    moses millsap 1-1-1 [+0.98]
    BobW 1-2 [+1.79]
    fenek: 1-3 [-5.44]
    EP36/tevari 1-3 [+0.00]

    BobW & moses millsap - you have an extra pick you need to make today on either a spread or total due to a retirement in one of your matches yesterday.

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    I'm so annoyed with myself, as I was going to take the Cipolla spread, because Davy is sh1t.. but went with Lu. At least i'm up though.

    Will research now and my picks will be up.

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    BBV. Razzano +6 -108
    D. Tursunov +8.5 -123
    T. Belucci v D. Sela Over 39.5 -111
    D. Cibulkova -6 -106
    Seeded Player To Lose - Maria Kirilenko

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    Sorry Ep. Thought this wasn't starting until the round of 16 again.

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    Day 2
    1. Llodra/Gulbis Under 40.5 [-114] [BB]
    2. Robert/Nishikori O29.5 [-114]
    3. Starace -1.5 [-111]
    4. Gasquet/Seppi U37.5 [+101]
    Seed to lose #19 Troicki

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    T. Tanasugarn +4 +110 BB
    I. Holland +7.5 +105
    K. Zakopalova +4.5 +101
    V. King -3.5 -114
    A. Chakvetadze -2.5 -105
    Seed to lose: #27 Chela

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    Day 2
    BB: Raonic-Volandri UNDER 27 [-112]
    Hewitt -5.5 [-102]
    Stepanek -6 [+101]
    Sela -1.5 [+107]
    Bogomolov Jr -7.5 [-114]
    Seed to lose: #27 Chela

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    EP36 Day 2: January 16th [All My Fault Again ]
    [BB]
    Roger-Vasselin +4.5 [+102]
    Russell +1.5 [-123]
    Bachinger-Sweeting Over 38.5 [-102]
    Hlavackova +4.5 [-103]
    Seed to Lose: Chela

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    Day 2 Standings
    BobW 2-6 [+0.77]
    yezzir 4-4 [+0.13]
    FoolBrittania 4-4 [-3.69]
    moses millsap 2-5-1 [-4.03]
    EP36/tevari 1-6 [-4.28]
    *fenek: 1-3 [-5.44]

    *Ineligible for weekly prize due to not making picks on Tuesday.

    Tevari/EP36 get another BB today since ours was voided due to retirement yesterday. So twice the chance we can get buried deeper!

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    Day 3
    1. [BB]Karlovic/Berlocq u40.5 [-125]
    2. Stakhovsky +5 [+105]
    3. Fish/Falla U33.5 [-105]
    4. Almagro -2 [-117]
    Seed to lose #21 Wawrinka

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    L. Tsurenko +5.5 +126 BB
    K. Clijsters -7.5 -121
    G. Voskoboeva -3 -110
    E. Daniilidou +4.5 -117
    Seed to lose #32 Cetkovska

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    Day 3
    BB: Tomic -4.5 [-132]
    Anderson -5 [-125]
    Riba-Kohlschreiber UNDER 30.5 [-110]
    Beck-Federer UNDER 27 [+107]
    Seed to lose: #32 Cetkovska

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    Day 3:

    Karlovic/Berlocq Under 40.5 -122 (BB)
    I. Benesova +4 -110
    Isner/Nalbandian Over 41.5 -103
    L. Lacko +1.5 -110
    Seeded Player To Lose - Petra Cetkovska
    Last edited by Yezzir; 01-17-12 at 06:00 PM.

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    tevari/EP36 Day 3 Picks [January 17th - Equal Blame!]
    Benesova +4 -110
    [bb]Tsurenko +5.5 +103
    Isner +1.5 -119
    [bb]Baghdatis-Wawrinka Over 39.5 -106
    Almagro-2 -121Seeded Player to Lose: Cetkovska

    Will add our seeded upset before match is played, just double checking to make sure I have correct info from tevari.
    Last edited by EaglesPhan36; 01-17-12 at 05:53 PM. Reason: Edited for Updated Info

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