1. 03-20-11 06:38 AM #1
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    Opening a new account on Pinnacle sports.

    I would like to know if they ask for any documents before withdrawing.
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  2. 03-20-11 07:13 AM #2
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    I've never had to send Pinnacle any documents at all since opening an account there, which was in 2003.....
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  3. 03-20-11 07:48 AM #3
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    Will depend on your deposit method.
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  4. 03-20-11 09:11 AM #4
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    Why even risk it? If you can't produce documents don't do it.
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  5. 03-20-11 11:20 AM #5
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    I believe they will want ID and proof of residency. It says on the website they can request it so you better be ready to provide it. Otherwise you will be posting on this board in a few weeks that Pinnacle stole your winnings when in reality you didn't have the documents per their rules. If you are in US and trying to get one over on them, it won't work. Just an FYI.
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  6. 03-20-11 12:04 PM #6
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    deposit via neteller and moneybookers and no documents will be required
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  7. 03-20-11 12:59 PM #7
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    Hm i deposited via MB and had to send ID and utility bill, but thats no problem for me.
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  8. 03-20-11 01:53 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by katstale View Post
    Why even risk it? If you can't produce documents don't do it.

    Tell them you are not willing to, and give them the many valid reasons why. Get everything in writing, and don't play the bonus/scalp game and you shouldn't have any problems as long as you are not bumping limits.

    So, as long as your aren't abusing the books bonus structure, and not circumventing limits, and don't deposit with a cc, you should have no problem.

    Get an additional phone only password for payouts.

    Get the words "approved for payout", or something similar in an email, before you deposit.

    IMHO, if you pick sides, bet under $500 a game, are not a bonus whore, don't deposit with a cc- you and the book can have a very secure acoount without needless, and often dangerous transfer of dox.
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  9. 03-20-11 01:55 PM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott235 View Post
    Tell them you are not willing to, and give them the many valid reasons why. Get everything in writing, and don't play the bonus/scalp game and you shouldn't have any problems as long as you are not bumping limits.

    So, as long as your aren't abusing the books bonus structure, and not circumventing limits, and don't deposit with a cc, you should have no problem.

    Get an additional phone only password for payouts.

    Get the words "approved for payout", or something similar in an email, before you deposit.

    IMHO, if you pick sides, bet under $500 a game, are not a bonus whore, don't deposit with a cc- you and the book can have a very secure acoount without needless, and often dangerous transfer of dox.

    mostly irrelevant information for Pinnacle players
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  10. 03-20-11 01:56 PM #10
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    Also, these things can only be negotiated before a deposit or reload.
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    Never have had to send any documents. I deposit using Neteller.
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  12. 03-20-11 01:57 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    mostly irrelevant information for Pinnacle players
    Why? Is it the law?
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  13. 03-20-11 02:01 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott235 View Post
    Why? Is it the law?
    references to bonuses (Pinnacle don't have them)
    reference to phone password (Pinancle doesn't have phones)
    reference to limit abuse (not possible at Pinnacle)
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  14. 03-20-11 02:13 PM #14
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    they asked me documents 46 second after my registration was complete......i had make no deposit at this moment...

    but why is it a problem for you to give docs.....i
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    Quote Originally Posted by cc440unn View Post
    they asked me documents 46 second after my registration was complete......i had make no deposit at this moment...

    but why is it a problem for you to give docs.....i
    good question, there seems to be a lot of posters with something to hide or paranoid
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  16. 03-20-11 02:32 PM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    good question, there seems to be a lot of posters with something to hide or paranoid
    You are absolutely right! Esp As an american, I do try to keep my online gaming as private as is reasonably possible, and I certainly don't give up my security when I feel what a book is asking for is unreasonable.
    Last edited by scott235; 03-20-11 at 02:36 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott235 View Post
    You are absolutely right! Esp As an american, I do try to keep my online gaming as private as is reasonably possible, and I certainly don't give up my security when I feel what a book is asking for is unreasonable.
    what are you doing when a book is asking you your ids

    anyway .. give up your security...its a joke...they 're usually asking what ?.. drivers license and an utility bill....

    if you have nothing to hide..this is nothing to give your phone bill..IMO
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  18. 03-20-11 02:45 PM #18
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    tax dodgers I expect
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    whats that ???
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  20. 03-20-11 02:53 PM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by cc440unn View Post
    what are you doing when a book is asking you your ids

    anyway .. give up your security...its a joke...they 're usually asking what ?.. drivers license and an utility bill....

    if you have nothing to hide..this is nothing to give your phone bill..IMO

    Sorry, but huge misconception, and a very dangerous thing to do esp online. If you wish to have a civil discussion about this, PM me, and I'll pass on some very relevant documented sources on the subject of legally protecting your assets, your identity, and personal security.
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  21. 03-20-11 02:53 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by cc440unn View Post
    whats that ???
    in the Land of the Free, not only is gambling frowned upon and made so difficult, the poor buggers even have to pay tax if they win!

    but can't claim losses!
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  22. 03-20-11 03:13 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    tax dodgers I expect
    Again, not the point. As an american, one can legally claim legally all of their winnings if they so choose, although I suspect most do not.

    Lest we forget the original topic of my post, I simply stated that one can indeed set up an account, win and get paid without giving up sensitive identity documentation- keeping your personal info secure and by not cheating anyone or doing anything unethical, esp to a sportsbook.

    One more thing. This is a post up business.
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  23. 03-20-11 04:16 PM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by katstale View Post
    Why even risk it? If you can't produce documents don't do it.
    good point.
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  24. 03-20-11 04:22 PM #24
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    Pinnacle is the top bookie, if they ask you for documents send it you will have no problems with this guys
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  25. 03-20-11 05:33 PM #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by scott235 View Post
    Sorry, but huge misconception, and a very dangerous thing to do esp online. If you wish to have a civil discussion about this, PM me, and I'll pass on some very relevant documented sources on the subject of legally protecting your assets, your identity, and personal security.
    dude im talking about a phone bill.

    its mean: Adresse, Postal Code, Full name and city

    you give these information when yopu subscribe ??????

    what do you teach to the bookmaker with the phone bill they dont already know with your subscription ??????

    you have something to hide buddy......
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  26. 03-20-11 05:52 PM #26
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    No, I don't, but I do have things I prefer to keep to myself. Also, I tell any book or casino upfront (before depositing) that a working phone number will be provide to them, but it will not be a number connected to my home address. Never, not once has any of these books or casinos questioned my intent or my sincerity in protecting my privacy.

    The offer still stands. PM me about this, have a civil discussion, and we both may learn from one another.

    Other than that, I don't get the reason for your not so subtle implication of improper or scam behavior on my part, simply because we disagree.

    If you currently work for a sportsbook, even better- I'd really like to talk about privacy options for U.S. bettors.
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    Dude im not working for a sportsbook... and like you can see in my precedant post...im not really a master in english. I can exprime my opinion in simple word but thats it...i will not start argue in english.

    anyway there is nothing else to say.... we just dont have the same opinion on whats a privacy broke

    gl anyway
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  28. 03-20-11 11:29 PM #28
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    First of all I am from India and I asked that question because I don't have any utility bills that are in my name,no drivers license and no passport.
    Just my photo ID card and Bank statement and a DC.
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    and I want to deposit Via ******** but Pinnacle doesn't have that method for users from India.
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    heu dude i was talking with scot... not with you

    gl anyway
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  31. 03-21-11 12:54 AM #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liars666 View Post
    First of all I am from India and I asked that question because I don't have any utility bills that are in my name,no drivers license and no passport.
    Just my photo ID card and Bank statement and a DC.
    do you have a mobile phone ?
    isn't that a "utility" ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liars666 View Post
    and I want to deposit Via ******** but Pinnacle doesn't have that method for users from India.
    can't you use Moneybookers ?
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  33. 03-21-11 03:02 AM #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    do you have a mobile phone ?
    isn't that a "utility" ?
    Yes I do have a mobile phone,but it is not in my name.
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  34. 03-21-11 03:04 AM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    can't you use Moneybookers ?
    I tried but it says that my bank doesn't allow depositing money for gaming purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liars666 View Post
    Yes I do have a mobile phone,but it is not in my name.
    that's very odd

    can't you sort it out ?
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