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    dialup_king
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    Books that wait until you withdraw to reduce limits

    Some books check how accounts are doing every so often, and then limit some players, but 5dimes doesn't check up on accounts until you withdraw. I am not talking about cases where someone bets an obviously bad line. In this case, 5dimes will take action. What other books wait until the player withdraws? Don't count steam chasing either.

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    sportsinteraction usually waits until you win a certain amount. Even if you haven't attempted to withdraw, they will cut you off

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    5dimes certainly didn't wait in my case.

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    I don't believe either of those issues are the prime reason for having your limits cut.

    Regularly managing to beat the closing line will do the trick very smartly regardless of whether you are in front or behind or have ever made a withdrawal request.

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    I don't think that they even wait for your withdrawal. I have experience with some bookies where I only lost my money and thet still limited me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zebras99 View Post
    I don't think that they even wait for your withdrawal. I have experience with some bookies where I only lost my money and thet still limited me...
    spot on mate, it's an irrelevance

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    so if you play teasers and win some, that won't even get noticed, or does that depend on the book?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thespeculator View Post
    so if you play teasers and win some, that won't even get noticed, or does that depend on the book?
    I don't expect it matters in what form you place your bets, if you are regularly beating the closing lines you are likely to the limit treatment.

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    Whoa the limit treatment?Does this mean the books make it impossible to make a good living if you become good enough to beat them?Please tell me your joking. As an aspiring pro this is very worrying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thekid667 View Post
    Whoa the limit treatment?Does this mean the books make it impossible to make a good living if you become good enough to beat them?Please tell me your joking. As an aspiring pro this is very worrying.
    If, as I do, you believe that to have a realistic chance of turning a regular profit you have to be obtaining pretty close to the best odds and that mostly means beating the closing lines then you will have a real problem if you can't use the exchanges, Pinnacle and a handful of other places which won't severely limit you.

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    As a player residing in the United States who only caps soccer Five Dimes has offered me the best prices that i can find.Hopefull they fall into this non-limiting category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thekid667 View Post
    As a player residing in the United States who only caps soccer Five Dimes has offered me the best prices that i can find.Hopefull they fall into this non-limiting category.
    best of luck with them
    I don't recall betting soccer with them but in the end my limits were down to $25 on just about everything so I moved on to greener pastures
    if you are intending to become a pro player though you really need more than one book, but if you live in the US your options for non-US sports in particular would be very limited

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    They will all limit you but it definitely seems to depend on the book as far as how fast it happens..

    SIA is much faster then "Tony's"...


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    pinny the best bookie in the world !!!!!

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    different books do different things

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    If you are going to try to make a living wagering on sports, you had better get connected in Vegas. Offshore Sports books are notorious for cutting limits for basically whatever reason they want. If you win large at book A, and they cut your limits severaly, how do you know that they will NOT notify other books about you. In Vegas, if a "counter" is caught at a blackjack table, the word goes out to most of the casino's and very quickly. Remember, if you are wagering in the U.S with off shore books, your rights are severely limited. The cost of fighting a dispute could be more than the dispute is worth.

    Another problme facing offshore books is the knowledge that the U.S. Government can basically pull the plug on them any time they want to do so. They can make life so miserable for these books that it would not pay for them to continue accepting wagers from U.S. based gamblers. The Feds can also legalize gaming in the U.S. and outlaw all sportsbooks outside of U.S. Jusidiction. This is a plan being pushed by Harry Reid, and his friends in Vegas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    If you are going to try to make a living wagering on sports, you had better get connected in Vegas. Offshore Sports books are notorious for cutting limits for basically whatever reason they want. If you win large at book A, and they cut your limits severaly, how do you know that they will NOT notify other books about you. In Vegas, if a "counter" is caught at a blackjack table, the word goes out to most of the casino's and very quickly. Remember, if you are wagering in the U.S with off shore books, your rights are severely limited. The cost of fighting a dispute could be more than the dispute is worth.

    Another problme facing offshore books is the knowledge that the U.S. Government can basically pull the plug on them any time they want to do so. They can make life so miserable for these books that it would not pay for them to continue accepting wagers from U.S. based gamblers. The Feds can also legalize gaming in the U.S. and outlaw all sportsbooks outside of U.S. Jusidiction. This is a plan being pushed by Harry Reid, and his friends in Vegas.

    How did your syndicate do this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    If you are going to try to make a living wagering on sports, you had better get connected in Vegas. Offshore Sports books are notorious for cutting limits for basically whatever reason they want. If you win large at book A, and they cut your limits severaly, how do you know that they will NOT notify other books about you. In Vegas, if a "counter" is caught at a blackjack table, the word goes out to most of the casino's and very quickly. Remember, if you are wagering in the U.S with off shore books, your rights are severely limited. The cost of fighting a dispute could be more than the dispute is worth.

    Another problme facing offshore books is the knowledge that the U.S. Government can basically pull the plug on them any time they want to do so. They can make life so miserable for these books that it would not pay for them to continue accepting wagers from U.S. based gamblers. The Feds can also legalize gaming in the U.S. and outlaw all sportsbooks outside of U.S. Jusidiction. This is a plan being pushed by Harry Reid, and his friends in Vegas.
    This is very informative thank you very much!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    The Feds can also ........ outlaw all sportsbooks outside of U.S. Jusidiction. This is a plan being pushed by Harry Reid, and his friends in Vegas.
    yeah, not even international convention obligations will stop Uncle Sam doing what he likes

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    Quote Originally Posted by thekid667 View Post
    As a player residing in the United States who only caps soccer Five Dimes has offered me the best prices that i can find.Hopefull they fall into this non-limiting category.
    5Dimes is the king of limiting. If you are wagering large amounts and getting good lines then you will definitely be limited in a major way by 5Dimes.

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    But if you just bet on their reguler juiced lines, they will lightly cut your limits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackkkk2009 View Post
    But if you just bet on their reguler juiced lines, they will lightly cut your limits.
    then where's the advantage?
    you can do that anywhere and better at Matchbook

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    I hear all this talk about 5dimes limiting but I bet 5 figures on a game a couple times on there.

    I also put 5000 on a parlay and Tony approved it...... (and i won)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianLaverty View Post
    I hear all this talk about 5dimes limiting but I bet 5 figures on a game a couple times on there.

    I also put 5000 on a parlay and Tony approved it...... (and i won)
    start taking sharp lines and see what happens

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    I have been scalping at 5dimes for the last seven years. I do a volume of half a million per year. Since I scalp, I must be on the highest number out there, or the lowest out there at 5dimes. Yet, I have not been limited. Of course, I have been lucky and am a lifetime loser at 5dimes. However, if 5dimes limits people that beat the closing line, it seems like I should have been limited long ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    spot on mate, it's an irrelevance
    lol

    Quote Originally Posted by dialup_king View Post
    different books do different things
    Yes.

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    I have some time before my bankroll will be alerting anybody So I will cross that bridge when i get there.I guess if limits become a big concern for me I have truly become a pro.


    Last edited by thekid667; 01-25-11 at 11:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BranchDavidian View Post
    I have been scalping at 5dimes for the last seven years. I do a volume of half a million per year. Since I scalp, I must be on the highest number out there, or the lowest out there at 5dimes. Yet, I have not been limited. Of course, I have been lucky and am a lifetime loser at 5dimes. However, if 5dimes limits people that beat the closing line, it seems like I should have been limited long ago.
    I think most books limit you when you keep beating the closing line IF you keep winning but I don't think many limit if you are beating them without arbing or scalping...


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