[GoMaryland]

So I didn't fall for the bonuses because I hate rollovers but I fell for BetUS' super easy deposit options--deposited $3900 total and now have close to $10K in my account. I stumbled upon this site where I learn that everybody pretty much hates BetUs and am scared they're going to take my money away. I requested a $4500 payout today so I guess we'll see how that's handled but I don't know what to do with the rest of my money--keep betting like nothing's wrong and hopefully grow my $10K some more or just try to withdraw all my money and move on to another book? I'm scared if I withdraw everything they might do something fishy. What do you experienced folks recommend or am I worried over nothing?

[THE HITMAN]

I don't hate them, but in fact I have them rated as a solid B book. Beware, Be aware and, oh yes, Be careful

[Scottish]

I would start withdrawing a few thousand at a time if i was you now, i wouldn't trust having upwards of $10k in that book given the horror stories i have read about them.

[unusialsusp5]

that was quite a whopper of an opening deposit for a b rated book. i don't know their payout history but i would follow up on withdrawing and keeping it under 5k at all times.

[BET THE HOOK]

Cash out 2k at a time.

[GoMaryland]

Thanks the gradual withdrawal option was what I was leaning towards too...I'll keep posted with what happens. Obviously I want to keep all my money but my main concern is making sure I don't lose at least my initial deposit. I certainly wish I'd found this site like a month and a half ago.

[flyingillini]

That is a terrible feeling to have, I have been there. There is nothing worse knowing you have money in a book where you have done nothing wrong and wondering if you are going to get it. Get your money out of there in a couple installments and only play at top rated books from now on. If you have any trouble or they jack you around contact SBR and have them help you. Trust me, I know exactly how you are feeling right now... .Good luck and let us know.

[SkivChef]

I was paid a lot by them last year with no problems at all.

[Border Gadgie]

Received $5k payout by moneybookers in under 24 hours last month without any problems, make sure you have uploaded any I.D. requirements as soon as you can, preferably before withdrawal request.

[rsigley]

I read in the book Conquering Risk that BetUS is a gem for recreational bettors so I decided to deposit 10k there. Haven't tried to take any money out yet I hope the book didn't lie to me and my money is safe!

All this negative feedback on the internet about BetUS scares me. Why would the authors of Conquering Risk recommend BetUS if they are so shady?

[Justin7]

Why would you put 10k there? You're asking for headaches.

[Justin7]

I read in the book Conquering Risk that BetUS is a gem for recreational bettors so I decided to deposit 10k there. Haven't tried to take any money out yet I hope the book didn't lie to me and my money is safe!

All this negative feedback on the internet about BetUS scares me. Why would the authors of Conquering Risk recommend BetUS if they are so shady?

When the book went to the printer in May, most of the bad stuff hadn't come out.

If you actually read the book, the same paragraph suggests you keep your deposit under $1k, and gives an example of something bad that happened to a player that deposited more.

[skrtelfan]

My bad stuff was in Feb and I posted about it here, and it was a small deposit. Definitely under $500 because I had my misgivings. Also there are a bunch of bad things on the SBR front page from before that including a video from you in late 2009 and in April you said they needed a big downgrade. I read about that on OGD and searched and found the posts here.

[Justin7]

skrtelfan,

Got a link to what I said in April?

The JM thing was about dual lines. That in itself is not a reason to pass -- in fact, it can be an opportunity.

[skrtelfan]

skrtelfan,

Got a link to what I said in April?

The JM thing was about dual lines. That in itself is not a reason to pass -- in fact, it can be an opportunity.

Fading dual lines could be profitable but their problem is that you can often only bet one side of the dual line. I don't track what off market lines are Morrison and what aren't, but I found many times where a good team like the Lakers or Celtics were -5.5 everywhere and BetUS had -6. Try to bet the opponent +6 and you can't, they say "the line has changed, it is +5.5" but hit refresh and the line goes back to the +6 and the same thing happens. But bets at -6 go through.

Here are the April discussions. First you say pro players are getting screwed by rollover but smaller players should be fine. I told you I got screwed in February on a tiny deposit which I see now was $200.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbook...l-players.html

And in April you mentioned them lying about soccer rollover and that you saw a downgrade in their future.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbook...-i-say-so.html

In the threads on OGD the gists of your posts were that you had no idea BetUS was screwing smaller players but what else can I do other than post on the forum what happened? I filed a complaint but it got nowhere and Bill Dozer actually blamed me for depositing at a low rated book and denied that you ever recommended it! Then 6 months later the recommendation appears in print! It's not my fault SBR doesn't let me pick which mediator handles my dispute because I certainly wouldn't want Lou or WillieBee handling anything of mine and Bill Dozer doesn't seem much better these days either with his pimping of BetPhoenix after many problems.

[Justin7]

skrtelfan,

Did you ever file a complaint on your dispute?

At the time I sent the book to the publisher, I thought what was in it was accurate -- that smaller players were safe (notwithstanding your post). The complaints I reviewed did not have a fact set similar to yours. I did a $500 test deposit myself, ran it up to 5k, and got a cashout in 3 days.

If I do a second edition, I will certainly change the BetUS section.

[skrtelfan]

Yep. These were the facts. They send me schedules and letters constantly and one letter offered me a 100% bonus and I saw your recommendations posted here that they were now a good book so I emailed them to confirm I was in fact eligible for the bonus and they said I was eligible up to a deposit of a certain amount, I think either $500 or $1000, just contact them to claim the bonus. So I made my $200 deposit, emailed them right away to get the bonus, and they told me I was only eligible for a 10% bonus because "I did not call for help making my deposit." What kind of bullshit is that? I filed the complaint but it got nowhere and Bill Dozer basically told me I was an idiot for depositing at a low rated book and a liar because no SBR moderator ever recommended BetUS so I didn't think I was getting anywhere with my complaint.

[Justin7]

skrtelfan,

I'm sorry that you had these bad experiences. If you can dig up the old emails (especially the email copy of your complaint), send it to me and I'll be happy to revisit it. If your promo didn't say that you had to call them on deposit to get it, or didn't include a promo code to enter on deposit, you're owed. Even a year later.

[rsigley]

Why would you put 10k there? You're asking for headaches.

Someone told me a big person at SBR wrote the book so I figured if they were suggesting it then it must be a good sportsbook to deposit on because why would SBR recommend a bad sportsbook? I'm not sure who the author is but if they could weigh in on the issue on why they would recommend a book with so many problems that would be great. I'm guessing some payola was involved for the authors.

[Justin7]

Someone told me a big person at SBR wrote the book so I figured if they were suggesting it then it must be a good sportsbook to deposit on because why would SBR recommend a bad sportsbook? I'm not sure who the author is but if they could weigh in on the issue on why they would recommend a book with so many problems that would be great. I'm guessing some payola was involved for the authors.

risgley,

I never thought of myself as "big" -- although I'm 6'4. I was the lead author of the book.

If you actually read the book, you'd know that there's no way a sportsbook would pay for the "recommendation" I included in there.

[Justin7]

And at risk of stating the obvious, no sportsbook paid me anything for what I wrote in Conquering Risk.

[skrtelfan]

skrtelfan,

I'm sorry that you had these bad experiences. If you can dig up the old emails (especially the email copy of your complaint), send it to me and I'll be happy to revisit it. If your promo didn't say that you had to call them on deposit to get it, or didn't include a promo code to enter on deposit, you're owed. Even a year later.

I only save emails for a few months so I doubt I still have it, but thanks for the offer. Losing a small bonus isn't a big deal, heck Cascade and Sportsbook.com both got me for 5 figures, but I didn't like the reaction from the SBR mods who acted like I was an idiot for depositing at a low rated book. It definitely didn't say I had to call or enter a promo code so maybe someone else who has better evidence can get paid.

[tatommack]

oh youre fvcked good luck seeing a penny of that money