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    vyomguy
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    I am offically done playing at Bookmaker

    I am sick of the shady bonus rules, bad customer service, harassing phone calls....here is my latest experience with them. I deposited $50 twice in a day totaling $100...all I was asking was sportsbook bonus for the deposits I made....but they have shady bonus rules which keep changing. Here is the manner in which they treat customers...I have deposited several thousands in this book and I am a platinum member here and this is the way they treat me....I am done with this book.


    info: Please wait for a site operator to respond.
    info: You are now chatting with 'CS Roderick'
    CS Roderick: Welcome, nice to have you with us today . . . I’m happy to assist you . . .
    bkr******: hi i have deposited $100 i wanted deposit bonus for that
    bkr******: password - ******
    CS Roderick: May I please have a moment to check on that for you..
    bkr******: bonus - 25% sportsbook bonus
    CS Roderick: Sorry sir but the deposit doesn't qualify... it has to be minimum $100
    bkr******: i have deposited $50 two times today totaling $100
    CS Roderick: it has to be a single deposit of $100 or the system and the processors won't allow it
    bkr******: sportsbook bonus is allowed...i have done it before similarly several times
    CS Roderick: No sorry sir... not possible
    CS Roderick: Make a deposit of $100 or more and we can give you the bonus
    CS Roderick: but otherwise a bonus can't and will not be given
    bkr******: i have deposited over $10,000 in boomaker....and you are doing nickle and dime over $25 ?
    CS Roderick: rules are rules sir
    bkr******: u telling me something cant be done which i have done 100s of times...i have deposited $100 today and deserve the 25% bonus
    bkr******: call your manager
    CS Roderick: I already did and he doesn't approve it
    bkr******: connect me to him
    info: Please wait while I transfer the chat to 'Cedric'.
    info: You are now chatting with 'Cedric'
    Cedric: Good evening
    Cedric: Sorry, no freeplay unless it is a solid deposit
    Cedric: Our system wouldn't recognize it either if we put it for less than 100
    bkr******: i have deposited $100 today and I am requesting my $25 bonus
    bkr******: i have deposited over $10,000 in your book..is this the way you treat your customers?
    bkr******: having flawed bonus rules
    Cedric: No sir, don't get me wrong, it's just the rules and how this works
    bkr******: I will report this to SBR Forum...thank you for your time.....I am tired of these shady bonus rules from bookmaker.
    Cedric: You're very welcome sir, and once again sorry for the inconvenience
    Cedric: Anything else you need right now?
    bkr******: I am officially quitting your book.

    I have deposited several thousands in this book and I am a platinum member here and this is the way they treat me. Fuk you Bookmaker.
    Last edited by vyomguy; 12-29-10 at 11:20 PM.

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    AribaAriba
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    well thats the problem dude, when u want to take advantage of a bonus u shud know the terms and condition etc, etc. I think the CS is pretty polite and professional but i can underside the side of the book of this one as you stated that you initially deposited 50 and another 50 thereafter. I guess you shouldnt worry with a 25 percent($25) bonus when u already deposited $1000000 on this book LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by AribaAriba View Post
    well thats the problem dude, when u want to take advantage of a bonus u shud know the terms and condition etc, etc. I think the CS is pretty polite and professional but i can underside the side of the book of this one as you stated that you initially deposited 50 and another 50 thereafter. I guess you shouldnt worry with a 25 percent($25) bonus when u already deposited $1000000 on this book LOL
    I dont care about the $25..hell its peanuts....but what bothers me is the way they replied considering how long I have been with them.

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    Have to side with the book here. Rules are rules!

    Why not just send one lump sum?

    No offense but this is the reason transaction fees are so high because the books (especially one like Bookmaker) are really not too enthusiastic about processing 30 $50 transactions with a player per month and they try to deter this with high withdrawal fees and by rewarding players who deposit larger amounts per deposit with bonuses.

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    if 2 $50 dollar deposits in a day equals 100 dollars deposit...i guess 6 in a week should qualify you for the 300$ and up bonus also. maybe you will have more luck if you check in to that.

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    they should have at least offered a good will gesture since the guy is a loyal customer

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    they rip people off, stay away from bookmaker

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    yeah, I don't see anything the book did wrong here.

    when I first started reading I was expecting rudeness from the book or something; but no, they we courteous.

    and they followed the rules. pretty sure this policy is spelled out on the site.

    no offense to the OP, but in general a demanding customer who insists on having the rules bent for him is.. well, a pain in the butt. Customers who think they are special snowflakes are probably delusional, especially if the dispute is over two digit freeplay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by butter23 View Post
    they rip people off, stay away from bookmaker
    Care to elaborate on this?

    This post offers no supportive evidence for anybody to conclude that "they rip people off". Sounds more like a cheap shot from some degenerate gambler who is upset that he lost a negative expectation bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpcat View Post
    Sounds more like a cheap shot from some degenerate gambler who is upset that he lost a negative expectation bet.
    No it was bet I made whether sharpcat will suck bookmaker's dick or not...it definitely was +EV bet btw.

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    CS doesn't exist at BM anymore.

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    "CS Roderick: it has to be a single deposit of $100 or the system and the processors won't allow it"

    not sure whether you should have received the bonus or not, but what the hell does the processors have to do with the ability to credit a bonus..

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    wow alot of hate towards bookmaker lately...thinkin i should maybe cash out everything soon haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_situation View Post
    wow alot of hate towards bookmaker lately...thinkin i should maybe cash out everything soon haha
    book to book transfers a bargain basement price of only $300 if you're looking to cash out.

    Nothing like a reasonable book offering reasonable prices for its customers.

    But then again, why would you want to leave such a reasonable book?

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    Bookmaker does not cater to smaller players, so I'm not surprised with their inflexibility here. BTW, their B2B transfer fees are horrible--highest in the industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by me-first View Post
    "CS Roderick: it has to be a single deposit of $100 or the system and the processors won't allow it"

    not sure whether you should have received the bonus or not, but what the hell does the processors have to do with the ability to credit a bonus..
    It's probably a program that does it automatically for him. The same way I can't give a 15% discount on an item at the store I work out without scanning a coupon. I'm not allowed to over ride it.

    It's a $25 freeplay. Stop acting so self entitled. You're not entitled to anything except your payout which BookMaker actually does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raynor21 View Post
    You're not entitled to anything except your payout which BookMaker actually does.

    Whoa Nellie, careful there. If you set the bar any higher for the way a sportbook should treat its customers, you might get a nosebleed.

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    bookmaker is a straight up joke they should help them shad fools on here..

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    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    No it was bet I made whether sharpcat will suck bookmaker's dick or not...it definitely was +EV bet btw.


    Must have been a great +EV bet to make you deposit $50 twice.

    Like Hedgehog said when people say that Bookmaker is one of the best books in the business they mean for players with large balances who are likely to get limited at other shops. Bookmaker is not such a great book for guys with a $100 bankroll and they could careless about your business.

    I suggest that the OP take his little peanut shells to a recreational book.

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    rules are rules

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    What a chump you are to even post this, petty

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    what is going on at BM. I think a guy on here the other day said it best. basically that they have such a huge customer base, they are way to arrogant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankthetank View Post
    what is going on at BM. I think a guy on here the other day said it best. basically that they have such a huge customer base, they are way to arrogant.
    Cause they can do it they are one of the best and they know it so of course they are going to be cocky about it if they want, some people are like like some people aren't if you know what i mean.

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    I honestly don't have a problem with the book in this spot. I know it is nickel and dime stuff but its the same thing on your end as well. Some one said that since you have been a loyal customer they should have made an exception this time. It certainly wouldn't be bad customer service to bend a rule here or there and keep the players happy. In your chat you said that you have done this before so maybe they just got tired of bending the rules over and over.

    bkr******: sportsbook bonus is allowed...i have done it before similarly several times
    CS Roderick: No sorry sir... not possible
    CS Roderick: Make a deposit of $100 or more and we can give you the bonus
    CS Roderick: but otherwise a bonus can't and will not be given
    bkr******: i have deposited over $10,000 in boomaker....and you are doing nickle and dime over $25 ?
    CS Roderick: rules are rules sir
    bkr******: u telling me something cant be done which i have done 100s of times...i have deposited $100 today and deserve the 25% bonus

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    stopped playing there a long time ago - after a $200 fee for a b2b. so what the rules say no bonus. even if it is clear it must be in 1 deposit over $100 for bonus. just give him the $25 frreplay. just common sense to keep customers happy. try another book. like you said, who needs them. books with this attitude towards thier customers should be run out of business.

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    If you are in Las Vegas and want to make a bet do you get a BONUS? NO. So the online books are going out of their way to give something extra to YOU so that you will play there. And guess what? They have RULES. And they get sick and of bonus whores calling up and demanding they get this or that,especially when the RULES forbid it.

    Someone in this thread stated that Bookmaker was being arrogant...did you even READ the transcript? If anyone was being arrogant it was the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpcat View Post
    Have to side with the book here. Rules are rules!

    Why not just send one lump sum?

    No offense but this is the reason transaction fees are so high because the books (especially one like Bookmaker) are really not too enthusiastic about processing 30 $50 transactions with a player per month and they try to deter this with high withdrawal fees and by rewarding players who deposit larger amounts per deposit with bonuses.
    I agree with this, and there's nothing wrong with the CS. They were very polite, even towards a customer who was flying off the handle.

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    geez why dont u all go suck bookmakers dick! the guy has been a long term customer surely they could have helped him out a bit better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommygun View Post
    geez why dont u all go suck bookmakers dick!
    They were perfectly fair. I'm not a Bookmaker customer and I have no reason to compliment them, but they were in the right here.

    He wanted an exception made because he didn't follow the rules and then flipped out when they wouldn't do it.

    Your post is not very professional.

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    no you are correct my post is not professional but I am sick of seeing all the backslapping and high-fives for bookmaker, let's be honest here it wasn't a big deal the book could have helped him out a little, i don't see how you cant appreciate that?

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    of course they could have, but they didn't have to, and the sense of entitlement is sickening.

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    Guys, Bookmaker gave me a call and apologized about the incident. They also offered me $100 freeplay in return of the mistake they made.

    Can we end the discussion here?

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    hey bookmaker, can you give me my betpts back?

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    the secret is the cash back program from five dimes. If you are a player who looses more than wins. That cash back program can help out a lot.

    there are many other books that would have added the two $50 deposits and given him the dam bonus with a rollover.

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    Its the state of the industry today. Try following the rules...

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