1. 09-24-10 04:53 PM #71
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    OK all dumb heads here at SBR I will tell you a secret now.

    Phoenix is one of the easiest to beat books in the world.

    P.S:

    Übersetzung von Deutsch in Englisch



    Please do not tell
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  2. 09-24-10 04:56 PM #72
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  3. 09-24-10 05:02 PM #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonbeam View Post
    OK all dumb heads here at SBR I will tell you a secret now.

    Phoenix is one of the easiest to beat books in the world.

    P.S:

    Übersetzung von Deutsch in Englisch



    Please do not tell

    i already knew that
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  4. 09-24-10 05:15 PM #74
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    I'm curious because I just made a deposit into BetMania for the first time. Just thought that I would try them. Hope they pay. Anybody have a firm comment on them?
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  5. 09-24-10 05:23 PM #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick11 View Post
    I'm curious because I just made a deposit into BetMania for the first time. Just thought that I would try them. Hope they pay. Anybody have a firm comment on them?
    you are fine.
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  6. 09-24-10 05:25 PM #76
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    betphoenix= crooks
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  7. 09-24-10 05:28 PM #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    you are fine.
    You are fine (maybe) if you lose.

    If you donīt lose you are in trouble
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  8. 09-24-10 06:16 PM #78
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    Hey Moonbeam...what books do you like?
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  9. 09-24-10 06:26 PM #79
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    Finally we did nt learn why all those books are at black list,for Moonbeam.Maybe i agree for sport-1.For the rest i am not sure.
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  10. 09-24-10 11:06 PM #80
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    My personal experience is that:

    1) They are definitely easy to beat, as Moon has alluded to
    2) While I wouldn't classify this family of books as scamworthy, not even close actually, they are taking far longer to pay than they used to (which should not come as a surprise to any serious punter in these parts)

    Still Moonbeam, I am always interested in your posts and would very much like to hear what was the straw that broke the camel's back here, so to speak.....
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  11. 09-25-10 05:25 PM #81
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    thanks for deleting threads SBR

    Some business partners must have very hard rules
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  12. 09-25-10 05:58 PM #82
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    can to diluge further moonbeam
    ?
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  13. 09-25-10 06:13 PM #83
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    Is it the Phoenix thread? I think it would have been OK if you'd given reasons why they were on your "scam list". That said, I've seen much worse random unjustified rants at books, eg. the recent one where the OP went off at WillHill for having the audacity to request ID for a Neteller withdrawal and then take 4 to process it, including checking ID.
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  14. 09-25-10 06:21 PM #84
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    Your thread was never deleted. It hasn't been responded to since last night & fell to the bottom of Page 1.



    The only mod action even taken was approving the post of someone who was automatically on Post Review due to having Shared IP's.

    Last edited by sbr.rodrigo; 12-12-14 at 12:11 PM.
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  15. 09-25-10 06:23 PM #85
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    feel dumb for starting this thread now?
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  16. 09-25-10 06:25 PM #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by AimingHigh View Post
    Is it the Phoenix thread? I think it would have been OK if you'd given reasons why they were on your "scam list". That said, I've seen much worse random unjustified rants at books, eg. the recent one where the OP went off at WillHill for having the audacity to request ID for a Neteller withdrawal and then take 4 to process it, including checking ID.
    haha i remember reading that, ignorant people.
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  17. 09-25-10 06:27 PM #87
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    found.
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  18. 09-25-10 07:08 PM #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou View Post
    Your thread was never deleted. It hasn't been responded to since last night & fell to the bottom of Page 1.



    The only mod action even taken was approving the post of someone who was automatically on Post Review due to having Shared IP's.

    maybe his threads should be deleted

    JMO
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  19. 09-26-10 12:50 AM #89
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    I have done well there, but haven't found their lines to be that great. What makes them easy to beat? (I think we maybe talking about chasing steam there, but I'd like to hear why either in the thread or pm)
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  20. 09-26-10 12:57 AM #90
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    very interesting being they I have had no trouble in my limited experiences with Phoenix, but I do respect that others do not think so highly of them
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  21. 09-26-10 01:20 AM #91
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    I would be inclined to agree that WagerChief is possibly a scam ONLY on the basis that they have called me literally, no exageration, 35 times in the last month... despite me telling them not to call me, MORE THAN ONCE! I've never used them and opened an account purely for the contests here at SBR. The only other book to call me after I told them not to (so far) is, ironically, BetPhoenix. So.. while I may not actually consider either of these books scams... any book that is so desperate as to call someone to seemingly beg for a deposit, I will never use that book in my life. (I signed up at BetPhoenix for some free $100 bet promo a while ago, and never deposited there, either).

    And as for BetMania... I see that as BetPhoenix's slightly shadier little sister.
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  22. 09-26-10 01:24 AM #92
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  23. 09-26-10 06:55 AM #93
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    The Phoenix books are definitely not scam books.
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  24. 09-27-10 04:04 PM #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou View Post
    Your thread was never deleted. It hasn't been responded to since last night & fell to the bottom of Page 1.



    The only mod action even taken was approving the post of someone who was automatically on Post Review due to having Shared IP's.

    I realised this thread wasnīt deleted Lou.
    But thatīs not the thread I think of. It was the 5Dimes thread.
    But ok, It doesnīt matter.
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  25. 09-27-10 05:21 PM #95
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    I've heard that Covers is really the only site where it gets over the top with the deleting of critical threads.

    SBR in my opinion has always been very fair and balanced which is good for the players and also the sponsors.
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  26. 09-27-10 05:53 PM #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevy View Post
    I've heard that Covers is really the only site where it gets over the top with the deleting of critical threads.

    SBR in my opinion has always been very fair and balanced which is good for the players and also the sponsors.
    I agree. SBR is a very "free of speech" forum. Nevertheless SBR deleted a 5Dimes thread.
    But ok, maybe they have some reasons for this. Iīm not unforgiving
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  27. 09-29-10 04:34 PM #97
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    Winning Pinnacle bet disappears in the air.

    Does anyone have the same problem?
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  28. 09-29-10 04:52 PM #98
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    Thought they closed your account when they paid out for that winning live bet that they had voided and you disputed?

    Never had that problem at Pinnies.
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  29. 09-29-10 04:53 PM #99
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    Never heard that happening at Pinnacle. you should E-mail them to check for you.
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  30. 09-29-10 05:53 PM #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonbeam View Post
    Does anyone have the same problem?
    was it live betting?

    do you have a screenshot of the bet?

    I have had a bet I thought I placed vanish but had no evidence that it was accepted so now I always take a screenshot in case it happens again
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  31. 09-29-10 06:02 PM #101
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    If you bet a huge mistake on a live line, it's likely to disappear without a trace.
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  32. 09-29-10 06:02 PM #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    was it live betting?

    do you have a screenshot of the bet?

    I have had a bet I thought I placed vanish but had no evidence that it was accepted so now I always take a screenshot in case it happens again
    It wasnīt a live bet Hareeba. Thats why Iīm 100% sure I placed this bet and confirmed it correctly. They deducted the ammount from my account.

    But as you mentioned, itīs better to take a screenshot. Thatīs alot of work. But itīs better to be pissed in the end
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  33. 09-29-10 06:23 PM #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonbeam View Post
    It wasnīt a live bet Hareeba. Thats why Iīm 100% sure I placed this bet and confirmed it correctly. They deducted the ammount from my account.

    But as you mentioned, itīs better to take a screenshot. Thatīs alot of work. But itīs better to be pissed in the end
    not a lot of work to take a screenshot if you use Screenhunter (free) - can do it all with a single function key depress - shot taken and saved
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  34. 09-29-10 06:42 PM #104
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    You seem to be doing your best to screw Pinnacle.
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  35. 09-29-10 06:58 PM #105
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    No.
    Thatīs definitely not my intention
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