[limitation]

I got the free play from preseason HOF game and decided to play around with it. I bet on the tennis match between Vera Zvonareva vs Maria Kirilenko. I chose Zvonareva -210 for $42 and they graded it as a loss even though Vera won the match. I decided to do live chat with the customer service and they said Maria won the match in 2-1 set. I told them to check WTA site to confirm the result that Vera won the match. They refused to do that. Such a bogus and crappy customer service by a third rated gambling site. Good thing I never chose them as my main book.

[Mudcat]

Zvonareva did indeed win. If the facts are as you state, it looks like a simple misgrade which I expect they will correct. If they haven't already caught it on their own, just call them and speak to someone else.

[midnight777]

seems like they should get it right!!!!

[jackkkk2009]

Books come with that kind of service should be lower than B+..

[sq764]

I was on with their CS for 35 minutes to get teh freeplay and they were horrible.. i just said the hell with it

[Chuck Sims]

File a complaint with SBR...NOW

[big joe 1212]

I got the free play from preseason HOF game and decided to play around with it. I bet on the tennis match between Vera Zvonareva vs Maria Kirilenko. I chose Zvonareva -210 for $42 and they graded it as a loss even though Vera won the match. I decided to do live chat with the customer service and they said Maria won the match in 2-1 set. I told them to check WTA site to confirm the result that Vera won the match. They refused to do that. Such a bogus and crappy customer service by a third rated gambling site. Good thing I never chose them as my main book.

Do you know that you cant play anything higher than -200 +200 with that money?

[Mr. Jones]

For me it took about 5 minutes on live chat to get the $50 into a new account [ never played there before]after I established it. It is over $100 now but still rollover to do. All bases straight bets after initial under bet on HOF game. I've had no problems with grading so far. Seems like a nice deal.

My question, assuming I have a balance at the end of rollover, is do I have to withdraw it? What if I want to establish a -105 account, would I have to withdraw it and then turn around and send it right back. I would like to assume you would need only $100 to establish a real account. Seems odd to have to just send money back and forth to do that. Also, lets say you reach $200 and still have rollover left, I guess you are then betting to win nothing but rollover.

Not to get ahead of myself right now, but it would be nice to know.

Betphoenix can you answer some of these questions?

[limitation]

Gonna give some update guys. I tried Bet Phoenix live chat again and they said they weren't able to fix grading issue on the live chat and had to call the manager during business hours. So, I called them through the phone and talked to the manager. He said it was a grading error and he would fix it as soon as possible. But, the funny thing was I had to wait another 5 hours after talking to him on the phone to see my money back. So, the error was finally resolved but it took a lot of hours and efforts to get them fix the grading error. I stand by my original statement of Bet phoenix having crappy customer service.

[limitation]

Do you know that you cant play anything higher than -200 +200 with that money?

That's only for the initial 50 dollars free play. During your 8 times roll over period, you can bet on whatever you want. I did that and I just finished my 8 times roll over requirements this morning. I can confirm that you can play -300, +300, even parlay and teaser. No problem for me at all.

[limitation]

For me it took about 5 minutes on live chat to get the $50 into a new account [ never played there before]after I established it. It is over $100 now but still rollover to do. All bases straight bets after initial under bet on HOF game. I've had no problems with grading so far. Seems like a nice deal.

My question, assuming I have a balance at the end of rollover, is do I have to withdraw it? What if I want to establish a -105 account, would I have to withdraw it and then turn around and send it right back. I would like to assume you would need only $100 to establish a real account. Seems odd to have to just send money back and forth to do that. Also, lets say you reach $200 and still have rollover left, I guess you are then betting to win nothing but rollover.

Not to get ahead of myself right now, but it would be nice to know.

Betphoenix can you answer some of these questions?

After you finish your 8 times roll over requirements, you can do whatever you want with that money (200 dollars or less). If you want to keep playing there, you can have a normal account with -105. If you want to withdraw it, it will cost you some fees (like 30 dollars for **). Remember though, you can only keep the maximum of $200 even if you finish with more than $200 after you finish your 8 times roll over. They will subtract the amount more than $200 after you finish your roll over requirements.

[big joe 1212]

That's only for the initial 50 dollars free play. During your 8 times roll over period, you can bet on whatever you want. I did that and I just finished my 8 times roll over requirements this morning. I can confirm that you can play -300, +300, even parlay and teaser. No problem for me at all.

It is in the rules that you can't play -200+ to meet rollover requirements. Good luck with the payout if you have!

[limitation]

Go read the rules if you have trouble reading. Let me pull them out for you.

[limitation]

This is from the Promotional Free Play Rules Restrictions:

Each wager must be a straight wager on the full game spread only; for both the Hall of Fame Game and the Super Bowl.

Any wager other than a straight wager on the full game spread will be considered invalid.

Each $50 wager carries an independent rollover of 8 times for any Free Play winnings credited.

Casino action is not allowed with this promotion at all.

1 item per member per household allowed.

This promotion can not be combined with other promotions or reduced juice wagering.

Valid ID is required for all withdrawals, no exceptions.

This offer is valid for North America Only.

Some exceptions may apply. This offer is not valid for members who have received three or more free money promotions in the past with no deposits.

Maximum cash out for this promotion is $200 for each of the free wagers. You must contact us in order to qualify for this promotion.

Super Bowl wagers can be placed once a line is available for the game.

[limitation]

This is the free play rule which only applied on your initial 50 dollars free play

Free Play Rules

Freeplays can be used ONLY in the following wager types.

Straight wagers ( moneylines up to +/-200), BetPhoenix reserves the right to adjust all wagering payouts according to these parameters.

3 team parlays max. 2 team teasers max.


Thanks for your concern about good luck with the payout. But, I already requested the payout this morning and they gave me the number for the ** already. Sorry to burst your bubble. They said nothing about not being able to use -200 +200 lines once you finish your initial free play of 50 dollars.

[Mr. Jones]

After you finish your 8 times roll over requirements, you can do whatever you want with that money (200 dollars or less). If you want to keep playing there, you can have a normal account with -105. If you want to withdraw it, it will cost you some fees (like 30 dollars for **). Remember though, you can only keep the maximum of $200 even if you finish with more than $200 after you finish your 8 times roll over. They will subtract the amount more than $200 after you finish your roll over requirements.

Well since a dollar won is worth ten earned that is a not too shabby. Good luck with rollovers to those still alive.

[limitation]

The negative thing about Bet Phoenix is that their roll over requirements are very shady in my opinions. Most of the books take the risk money as part of roll over, but for Bet Phoenix they are totally different. They choose the lower number between the risk money and the win money. For example: if you risk 40 dollars and only win 20 dollars, only 20 dollars will be counted toward your roll over requirements. I had to bet over 350 dollars just to finish my roll over requirements. Then I had to pay additional 30 dollars (for **) to withdraw money. Not a good book in my opinions.

[SBR Lou]

File a complaint with SBR...NOW

You can always write, but sometimes it's best to pick up the phone over a simple grading error. The CS clerks on live chat seldom have the authority, or even access to fix something like that.

Gonna give some update guys. I tried Bet Phoenix live chat again and they said they weren't able to fix grading issue on the live chat and had to call the manager during business hours. So, I called them through the phone and talked to the manager. He said it was a grading error and he would fix it as soon as possible. But, the funny thing was I had to wait another 5 hours after talking to him on the phone to see my money back. So, the error was finally resolved but it took a lot of hours and efforts to get them fix the grading error. I stand by my original statement of Bet phoenix having crappy customer service.

Glad to hear the mistake was then corrected.

[HedgeHog]

The negative thing about Bet Phoenix is that their roll over requirements are very shady in my opinions. Most of the books take the risk money as part of roll over, but for Bet Phoenix they are totally different. They choose the lower number between the risk money and the win money. For example: if you risk 40 dollars and only win 20 dollars, only 20 dollars will be counted toward your roll over requirements. I had to bet over 350 dollars just to finish my roll over requirements. Then I had to pay additional 30 dollars (for **) to withdraw money. Not a good book in my opinions.

Actually most books use the lesser of risk vs win. BP is following the industry standard.

[gr1624]

Met the rollover requirement and trying to withdraw the full $200 have been trying for two days I will let you know how it goes. They stated I should have it tommorow or Monday we will see.

[RickySteve]

I love how you can't bet the free play on big favorites. These guys are great at bookmaking.

[juuso]

They'll most probably fix it. Just contact manager or file SBR complaint.

[HedgeHog]

I love how you can't bet the free play on big favorites. These guys are great at bookmaking.

Exactly. You'd think they'd welcome the idiot that takes a $50 free play and bets a ML of say -1000. At least the rollover for the $5 score wouldn't be too difficult.

[Dr.Gonzo]

I love how you can't bet the free play on big favorites. These guys are great at bookmaking.

[Sfritts8]

Ricky Steve-

Lets try not to point out the myriad errors in the bookmaking or bonus giving ability of the fine people of the BetPhoenix family. Despite this posters haggle over small time money they are as you probably know a great source of income for anyone who has any clue.

[lukahh]

You can always write, but sometimes it's best to pick up the phone over a simple grading error. The CS clerks on live chat seldom have the authority, or even access to fix something like that.


Glad to hear the mistake was then corrected.

yes. cs clerk can't do this, you are expecting too much.
the best way is to email and attach link of the official report (from wta website).
then sit back and watch it re-graded.
good cs should tell you the above.

[Santo]

Any decent CS system should have the ability to get a message to the relevant department, at least making it look to the customer like they are taking care of it.

[Richkas]

Do you know that you cant play anything higher than -200 +200 with that money?

Some people just dont get it do they Joe. He wont get paid.

[HedgeHog]

I think you need to read the entire thread. OP had already won the freeplay prior to making the tennis bet in question.

[betphoenix]

I got the free play from preseason HOF game and decided to play around with it. I bet on the tennis match between Vera Zvonareva vs Maria Kirilenko. I chose Zvonareva -210 for $42 and they graded it as a loss even though Vera won the match. I decided to do live chat with the customer service and they said Maria won the match in 2-1 set. I told them to check WTA site to confirm the result that Vera won the match. They refused to do that. Such a bogus and crappy customer service by a third rated gambling site. Good thing I never chose them as my main book.

Question for you...did you use the first play on the Hall of Fame game, or on Tennis?

[limitation]

People never learn how to read. I already explained it multiple times yet a few idiots assumed I used the free play on Tennis. People, please learn how to read the whole thread not just one post. I used the free play on Hall of Fame game and I won with my bet on Dallas. I bet on the tennis and baseball games as part of my roll over requirements. Tired of explaining multiple times to idiots, who can't learn how to read.

[limitation]

Some people just dont get it do they Joe. He wont get paid.

Thanks for your concern. But, learn how to read properly first before making more idiot posts like that one.

[HedgeHog]

Question for you...did you use the first play on the Hall of Fame game, or on Tennis?

I think he bet the HOF game with the FP, judging from post #10. He then took the majority of his winnings and bet $42 to win $20 on a tennis match that won but was misgraded. That's my understanding of the situation.

PS Apparently the OP verified this while I was typing.

[gr1624]

Just a follow up got a control number today and payment should be available via **. Thank You BetPhoenix

[betphoenix]

If that is the case then there is no issue, and you will be paid no problem. Thank you for taking the promo, congratulations on your success, and enjoy the $$$.