[Dale3380]

I realize some people will not believe me ?But why would I waist my time posting this if not true ?I also have pictures of emails sent from betonline proving everything I say here is true .Yes it was a few years ago and I did give up for a couple of years .I know have a lawyer but really do not want to go to the country on Panama with my lawyer if I can help it .If anyone on this site can help me please do and tell me how much money you want for helping me ?In June of 2019 I started playing the bad beat jackpot that was the largest jackpot for that year right at a million bucks .I was dealt a pair of tens then flopped a four of a kind .I was more worried about losing my money than anything else and was not thinking about bad beat jackpot. I went all in for $240 was called and lost to a strait flush .I was upset for a minute then realized I just won bad beat jackpot .Betonline congratulated me at first but later that day sent me a email saying they are sorry to inform but I did not win because the qualifying quads where not lowered from Jack's. This had to be one of the biggest lies in the history of online betting !!?Because the qualifying quads is automatically lowered from Jack's as pot grows and is also based on amount of time passed between winners .When I won it was the biggest jackpot of the year and the longest period between winners. Also the quads are lowered automatically by betonline as pot gets bigger. Every bad beat jackpot winner in the history of bad beat jackpots has won with qualifying quads lower than Jacks.With much smaller pots and shorter period of time in between wins .I feel like this site will be shut down for good sooner or later .I have scene all over the internet threw the years stories like mine .It is like they do not care who they steal money from or when they do it .I think not only me but a lot of people some with authority to shut down this site if they get enough people fed up with this sites bullshit !!They want people to think they are a safe and honest site to gamble at but are nothing but a scam !!!!Most people are not aware of this because they do not win a big jackpot like I did .I have heard many poker player complaining about bots also this is a fact !! If anyone in the poker community can help me get my bad beat jackpot winnings please tell me how much you want out of the money and I am sure I will agree to it .Thanks

[Dale3380]

[QUOTE=Dale3380;31285035]I realize some people will not believe me ?But why would I waist my time posting this if not true ?I also have pictures of emails sent from betonline proving everything I say here is true .Yes it was a few years ago and I did give up for a couple of years .I know have a lawyer but really do not want to go to the country on Panama with my lawyer if I can help it .If anyone on this site can help me please do and tell me how much money you want for helping me ?In June of 2019 I started playing the bad beat jackpot that was the largest jackpot for that year right at a million bucks .I was dealt a pair of tens then flopped a four of a kind .I was more worried about losing my money than anything else and was not thinking about bad beat jackpot. I went all in for $240 was called and lost to a strait flush .I was upset for a minute then realized I just won bad beat jackpot .Betonline congratulated me at first but later that day sent me a email saying they are sorry to inform but I did not win because the qualifying quads where not lowered from Jack's. This had to be one of the biggest lies in the history of online betting !!?Because the qualifying quads is automatically lowered from Jack's as pot grows and is also based on amount of time passed between winners .When I won it was the biggest jackpot of the year and the longest period between winners. Also the quads are lowered automatically by betonline as pot gets bigger. Every bad beat jackpot winner in the history of bad beat jackpots has won with qualifying quads lower than Jacks.With much smaller pots and shorter period of time in between wins .I feel like this site will be shut down for good sooner or later .I have scene all over the internet threw the years stories like mine .It is like they do not care who they steal money from or when they do it .I think not only me but a lot of people some with authority to shut down this site if they get enough people fed up with this sites bullshit !!They want people to think they are a safe and honest site to gamble at but are nothing but a scam !!!!Most people are not aware of this because they do not win a big jackpot like I did .I have heard many poker player complaining about bots also this is a fact !! If anyone in the poker community can help me get my bad beat jackpot winnings please tell me how much you want out of the money and I am sure I will agree to it .Thanks PS ,my betonline player number is B1597718 and poker screen name Dale3380

[Dale3380]

Right after this happened I tried to get this site to help me ?I think this site did try to help me but Betonline refused to pay .I tried for 2 solid years after this happened and they would not pay me .I then gave up for a couple yearsnuntil another player told me that betonline did pay winner of hand. After I won this money but was not paid the money in jackpot vanished and never was put back so I figured someone got paid ?I am not rich in fact I live paycheck to paycheck !!So I could not just pay a lawyer right after this happened and did not know about sites like two plus two .Also the Nevada gaming commission is helping me but Betonline will not return emails and when they call they are not able to talk to anyone in management or that can take steps to help me get my money .There is a couple more new sites helping me but I am not sure if anyone is going to be able to get my bad beat jackpot winnings if betonline keeps hiding .They congratulated me for winning bad beat jackpot when this first happened then said the card was not lowered from Jack's when everyone that plays there knows that it was that day and more than once the pot was at 890,000.I do not think anyone can understand the stress this puts on me or anyone else just knowing for a fact that I won bad beat jackpot and can not get paid ?Because this site that advertised to everyone that they are safe and honest are really just the opposite!!Thanks

[Thefix13]

Eye rape

[ki dice]

What was the amount you won?

[Crusherrr]

What you're saying could be correct.
But they post all of their bad beat jackpot winners. I don't see how you would be entitled to $890,000 as the jackpot was a lot lower than that one month after the date you've given. It's not exactly easy to understand your large paragraphs of rambling though.

HP58	$64, 731.01	September 9th, 2019
cdollarbills	$74, 809.72	August 6th, 2019
dubkin	$147, 655.05	July 23rd, 2019
IAMTHELAW	$28, 464.09	March 3rd, 2019

The person won 20% of $738,275.25 BBJ on July 23rd 2019 which was $147,655.05. So at the very least the $890,000 figure you are saying is incorrect.

[ki dice]

What pisses me off is that these sportsbook have the intentions to make money on us by us fronting all deposits we make. While we’re playing we are hoping for the fact if we run a high balance we should not worry to get paid that should be the least of are problems becuz it’s so hard to win. To not payout is just not right man also why do they say these penetrating jackpots are there if they don’t penetrating pay them out so people to keep playing and lose with intentions of never paying out great business to run. If they stiff you then people keep playing there’s millions of people around the world not reading youre story

[Headsterx]

Eye rape

🤣🤣🤣

[Optional]

What you're saying could be correct.
But they post all of their bad beat jackpot winners. I don't see how you would be entitled to $890,000 as the jackpot was a lot lower than that one month after the date you've given. It's not exactly easy to understand your large paragraphs of rambling though.

HP58	$64, 731.01	September 9th, 2019
cdollarbills	$74, 809.72	August 6th, 2019
dubkin	$147, 655.05	July 23rd, 2019
IAMTHELAW	$28, 464.09	March 3rd, 2019

The person won 20% of $738,275.25 BBJ on July 23rd 2019 which was $147,655.05. So at the very least the $890,000 figure you are saying is incorrect.

Thank you for explaining a bit about this Crusherrr.

@OP, SBR does not usually get involved in poker disputes as we do not have the expertise in that area to mediate these sort of disputes. Have you ever tried contacting their main rep Dave Mason directly to ask him to have a look over this?

[infotimbo]

he says "After I won this money but was not paid the money in jackpot vanished and never was put back", though - so if this is indeed true, it would make sense that his numbers don't fit with the next payout of the BBJ.

The whole thing has already been discussed five years ago, though, and it seems like SBR got in touch with Betonline back then - although without posting an update in the end:

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...pot-money.html

So maybe someone could check if Betonline did provide any clarification.

[Optional]

he says "After I won this money but was not paid the money in jackpot vanished and never was put back", though - so if this is indeed true, it would make sense that his numbers don't fit with the next payout of the BBJ.

The whole thing has already been discussed five years ago, though, and it seems like SBR got in touch with Betonline back then - although without posting an update in the end:

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...pot-money.html

So maybe someone could check if Betonline did provide any clarification.

Thanks for the reminder of that thread Timbo.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

5 years later he is still writing blocks of text...

So he was in a tournament not a cash game and lost with quad tens not quad jacks or better? Unless I'm mistaken, it seems that you need to move on with your life and you don't have a leg to stand on here.

Tough beat but you have a heck of a story now at least.

[Thefix13]

No chance any tournament qualifies for a bad beat jackpot, 5 years of wasted hope

[Crusherrr]

Wish I had my 5 minutes back. Tournaments never qualify for the bad beat jackpot. They don't pay in, so why would they get a % of it?

Guessing he means his last 240 chips and not $240. But in this thread he didn't mention tournament and the last one he did. Seems like OP is just trying to make something out of nothing.

[KS1986]

[infotimbo]

Guessing he means his last 240 chips and not $240. But in this thread he didn't mention tournament and the last one he did. Seems like OP is just trying to make something out of nothing.

with "tournament" he is referring to the bad beat jackpot, I think, not the type of table he played on.

So what OP seems to say (in his original post - in the new one, the numbers are different) is:

- he was playing on an eligible table, and lost a hand with 4x10
- the BBJ pot was $633.000, and at the time Betonline had lowered the requirements from 4xJ to 4x10
- after his hand, the BBJ was resetted, but not paid out to him

I guess it's not impossible that this happened due to a technical glitch, which wasn't detected as OP & support struggled to communicate each other. But how to find out five years later... no idea.

[Dale3380]

That is exactly what the lye they told me is a fairy tale a very bad one at that!!I am also that just a few people on here had some stupid out of bounds remarks. I forgive you and understand you have nothing better to do ?Or your getting paid bye betonline ?This hapoened a little over 3and half years ago not five like betonline chamoions want to claim .I would not be waisting my time typing this post if it where not true .I have better things I could be doing ?But once again I ain't mad at you.For the thousands of former or present players that signed my petition and are standing behind justice and trying to help me stop sites from ripping people off thank you .Thanks general public also .I have overwhelming erafutable proof !!!That betonline fraudulently took almost a million bucks from me .People that do not believe it was that much money just look at list of winners in 2019?I would post them on here but it will not let me do it .They did not pay me saying quad Jack's had not ben lowered yet .I found out all bad beat jackpots from November 2018 until two months after I won in June .All contests started out with quad 8s including mine .So Jack's where not even being used as quads starting out when I won .But there reason for paying me was Jack's had not ben lowered .A blind man can see this site robbed me .They made some pretty big changes in October 2018.One of them was raising the amount that the jackpot winner has to pay to reseed next tournament to 35%.That is higher than anyone else but it makes the pot start out at over two hundred thousand in most cases or 90%of the time.Scents the pot starts out so high after the rule change the starting qualifying quads did go down to quad 8s.This lasted until September of 2019 when they changed the rules again to make qualifying quads to start bad beat jackpot quad dueces.For all the doubters and haters you can find proof of this online at a poker forum called Poker.com and there is proof other places just look its not hard to find.They had a back to back winner in November and December of 2018 named Santahoz.He won his second jackpot in just twenty days from month before and only four hundred thousand in Jackpot.Bad Beat Jackpot rules state qualifying quads are determined bye time scents last winner and how much jackpot has grown .This man also won with same exact hand as me quad tens .But he had a much smaller jackpot amount and only 20 days in between wins .It was 3 full month scents last winner when I won and jackpot was 3 times higher as therback to back winner.I was a lot more qualified to win the bad beat jackpot than him bigger pot longer period between wins but they did not take his money twice and denied my more qualified bad beat jackpot win than his ?Betonline is trying to pick and choose who they pay and who they do not threw fraudulent lies and fairy tails nobody believes that can not be backed up with proof. I have overwhelming evidence that this site cheated me out of my money and a lot of other people .They need to pay me because I am costing them more money than they owe me bye not paying me .Thanks

[Optional]

They need to pay me because I am costing them more money than they owe me bye not paying me .Thanks

SBR does not welcome people using our forum to try to defame or unfairly coerce bookmakers.

You are welcome to discuss the matter here but these walls of unreadable text, abuse of posters offering genuine feedback, and now admitting your plan is to simply keep trolling them to try and cost them money is not welcome.

Please take it elsewhere now.

[infotimbo]

The original post in from June 25th 2019, btw, so I guess it must have happened somewhere around that time.

On June 26th, Betonline sent out a press release,which said

"The Bad Beat Jackpot at BetOnline Poker has been climbing and will soon hit a whopping $700,000 if nobody loses with quad jacks or better soon. [...] BBJ players should keep in mind that the qualifying hand changes as the jackpot rises. BetOnline Poker actually lowers the qualifying hand, increasing the odds of a BBJ hit! The current qualifying hand is four jacks, which is prominently displayed on the poker software banners at BetOnline Poker. It’s a good idea to periodically check those banners to be aware of the updated BBJ requirements, if any."

https://www.pokernewsreport.com/beto...s-700000-23587

One week later, on July 3rd, they tweeted "if your Four of a Kind Jacks or better gets trumped by a better hand, you and all others playing at Bad Beat Jackpot tables will share in the $726,794.67 jackpot"

https://twitter.com/BetOnline_ag/sta...47209542934528

This is no definite confirmation that the same was displayed on the poker software at that time, of course, but in all likeliness, OP's hand just wasn't good enough.

[Optional]

Thanks for that research Timbo.