[winkyyy]

The Feds are now putting the heat on Coinbase, and CC, and $ Gram

When the Feds figure out how to shutdown the BTC/ETH transfers it will basically be over

for virtually all Offshore business...as far as the USA is concerned.

Just a matter of time...

As more and more us states get sportswagering the $$ in the Pot is getting larger...

The Feds want their %...and will go to any means to thwart the deposit/withdrawal system

currently in place.

Not sure how they will do it but The current Trump Administration has that on the bucket list

for the next few years...

Not sure if he will win or not....but whatever happens Sportsbooks/USA/Offshore

willnot be compatible...

As you can see more and more books have either collapsed or stopped US Business.

e.g Pinnacle, 5dimes,Sportsbook.com etc etc etc

Another year + and the # of books will be 30% of what they are now.

[The General]

Trump is non factor, but American legalization will not tolerate illegal offshore. If you don't recognize that then I'm sorry.

[RudyRuetigger]

I agree but dumb reasoning

[Orbison]

locals will always thrive don't worry about it

[The General]

Legalization in America will crush offshore gambling as we know it. Unbelievable that you'd believe otherwise.

[goduke]

I think it’s a ways away from happening. Offshore is still carrying a lot of people who don’t have sports books in their states. Don’t want to lose the interest of those fans quite yet. The revenue from that would be bigger than what they would gain by eliminating offshore now

[pavyracer]

Trump's goal when he defeats Biden is to make offshore gambling business obsolete. Vote accordingly.

[The General]

Mr Trump don't care but casinos do care and their influence is unstoppable.

[pilebuck13]

I think it’s ridiculous period to have to pay taxes on gambling when you are already at a disadvantage

[Housemoney]

Anyone have knowledge on how PPH works? I'm wondering if the locals that use that may get shut down too.

[pilebuck13]

Btw I don’t even see why you need coinbase or Gemini or any of them traders much better ways to not use them and still get your money

[jjgold]

Nobody uses coin base anymore for gambling

[Orbison]

Anyone have knowledge on how PPH works? I'm wondering if the locals that use that may get shut down too.

it's just run on software

[Housemoney]

it's just run on software

OK, good. I thought it came out of CR. My guy is good, so have no use for off shore.

[LibSuperstar]

it's just run on software

Check your PMs.

[TheMetsSuck]

I think it’s ridiculous period to have to pay taxes on gambling when you are already at a disadvantage

Ding ding ding

You don’t get a tax refund if you lose....

[milwaukee mike]

when bank transfers got shut down it was supposed to be the end of the world

then when neteller closed to us residents it was supposed to be game over for sportsbooks

then when sports stopped they were all gonna run off with funds

i guess if someone screams that "the sky is falling" for long enough maybe eventually they will be right? after being wrong 100x

[RocketMan$$$]

I doubt it, offshore will still stay around. 5 dimes was doing shady tactics.

[pilebuck13]

Just logged into my Gemini account and seen a ridiculous user agreement they wanted me to say yes to I just logged out they can have the rest that’s in there which is not much fuk them unreal

[habitualwinning]

when bank transfers got shut down it was supposed to be the end of the world

then when neteller closed to us residents it was supposed to be game over for sportsbooks

then when sports stopped they were all gonna run off with funds

i guess if someone screams that "the sky is falling" for long enough maybe eventually they will be right? after being wrong 100x

I'm not sure how old you are but 12 years ago everybody used to play on fulltilt, pokerstars and bodog. Then one day everyone tried logging on and the websites had a big american eagle dept. of justice logo on it and said it was shutdown. Guess you're either too young to remember that or forgot about it. People lost their money there. Also back in the day people played on betjam and bodog. New guys probably haven't even heard of those places but everyone I know used one or both of those books. A few years ago most people I know used 5dimes. It was an A+ book with the best options. Look now. These places come and go and yes there is risk of losing your funds, especially if the DOJ gets involved. I've personally had thousands stolen from me between fulltilt and bodog about a decade ago. I know people that had 10s of thousands stolen. It happens. Moral of the story is the DOJ can shut anybody down. If they can shutdown fulltilt and bodog at their height they can take any of these other books out too at any time. Why not just use a legal place or a local? Why not support America if you live in America and not jeopardize your funds beings stolen by offshore that goes out of business or gets seized by DOJ? Also I've been seeing a lot of stories past couple years of guys running into big problems with Bitcoin. Irs audits and levies. Some getting jail time for not paying taxes on their bitcoin or for moving too much of it around. The feds are onto bitcoin now. The days of wild west bitcoin are gone. So good luck with that if you're a big player. If you just gamble $20 a game probably nobody cares and you'll fly under the radar. I'm talking about the guys that shoot 4 figures a game and move large amounts of btc around. That btc game was strong a few years ago. But then again so was fulltilt, pokerstars, bodog, betjam and 5dimes. Where they at now? Better question where's the gd money at? I think 5d squared up with everybody but I haven't used them in 2 years so idk. Those other places not so much. Things offshore will never be like they were during the height of ft, ps, bd and bj. Unreal times. That ship has sailed. Glad I got to experience that though in the late 2000s. Unreal times. We used to have a sit and go on one laptop going on fulltilt and then another sit and go or cash game going on another laptop on pokerstars with some action on the games which were on the tvs in the background. Shit will never be that good again. Oh and that was pre bitcoin too. None of that bs. Everyone just used cc. Fukkin easy. I'd go back right now if I could. Man fukk everybody. All y'all shady mfers ruined gambling for the rest of us. Shit will never be that good again.

[pokerdevil]

I'm not sure how old you are but 12 years ago everybody used to play on fulltilt, pokerstars and bodog. Then one day everyone tried logging on and the websites had a big american eagle dept. of justice logo on it and said it was shutdown. Guess you're either too young to remember that or forgot about it. People lost their money there. Also back in the day people played on betjam and bodog. New guys probably haven't even heard of those places but everyone I know used one or both of those books. A few years ago most people I know used 5dimes. It was an A+ book with the best options. Look now. These places come and go and yes there is risk of losing your funds, especially if the DOJ gets involved. I've personally had thousands stolen from me between fulltilt and bodog about a decade ago. I know people that had 10s of thousands stolen. It happens. Moral of the story is the DOJ can shut anybody down. If they can shutdown fulltilt and bodog at their height they can take any of these other books out too at any time. Why not just use a legal place or a local? Why not support America if you live in America and not jeopardize your funds beings stolen by offshore that goes out of business or gets seized by DOJ? Also I've been seeing a lot of stories past couple years of guys running into big problems with Bitcoin. Irs audits and levies. Some getting jail time for not paying taxes on their bitcoin or for moving too much of it around. The feds are onto bitcoin now. The days of wild west bitcoin are gone. So good luck with that if you're a big player. If you just gamble $20 a game probably nobody cares and you'll fly under the radar. I'm talking about the guys that shoot 4 figures a game and move large amounts of btc around. That btc game was strong a few years ago. But then again so was fulltilt, pokerstars, bodog, betjam and 5dimes. Where they at now? Better question where's the gd money at? I think 5d squared up with everybody but I haven't used them in 2 years so idk. Those other places not so much. Things offshore will never be like they were during the height of ft, ps, bd and bj. Unreal times. That ship has sailed. Glad I got to experience that though in the late 2000s. Unreal times. We used to have a sit and go on one laptop going on fulltilt and then another sit and go or cash game going on another laptop on pokerstars with some action on the games which were on the tvs in the background. Shit will never be that good again. Oh and that was pre bitcoin too. None of that bs. Everyone just used cc. Fukkin easy. I'd go back right now if I could. Man fukk everybody. All y'all shady mfers ruined gambling for the rest of us. Shit will never be that good again.

People got fully paid by Full Tilt and Ultimate Bet, though in some cases it took years... and Bodog simply rebranded to ignition/Bovada.

I don't know why you're spreading lies or why you wrote this massive wall of text

[habitualwinning]

Just logged into my Gemini account and seen a ridiculous user agreement they wanted me to say yes to I just logged out they can have the rest that’s in there which is not much fuk them unreal

Ya everyone trying to cover their asses now bc feds are cracking down on btc. Lots of people going to jail especially in financial heavy areas like NYC, Chicago. I quit using btc. Sold all mine. I bought really low early in the game. I could tell it was going downhill in late 2018 early 2019. It'll just get worse and worse. More regulations, more taxes, more heat from doj and feds on big players and the industry. Not worth the hassle anymore. That ship has sailed. Btc won't break 20k again either so it's dead as an investment. Pretty much only shady people are still using it. Like dark web shit. Terrorists, sex traffickers, pedos, drug smugglers etc. Fukkin shady industry. I got in it early last decade for investment. Gambling just became a byproduct. I thought it would hit 5-10k range by the end of the decade. Was pleasantly surprised when it hit 20k in late 17. Crazy run but that ship has sailed. Not worth the hassle or the risk anymore. I've got 2 legal brick and mortar sportbooks 10 mins away and several more legal online that I can access. No more btc for me. Just do all legal now. Keep America strong by supporting America.

[habitualwinning]

People got fully paid by Full Tilt and Ultimate Bet, though in some cases it took years... and Bodog simply rebranded to ignition/Bovada.

I don't know why you're spreading lies or why you wrote this massive wall of text

So bc you got paid means everyone got paid right? What did you have to do to get paid? Have your daddy lawyer sue for you? Suck someone's dikk? I know many people that never got their money back. Those places have been sued many times. You don't get sued unless you fukk someone over. Simple as that. / of your dumbass. Thanks for speaking on behalf of all the millions of users of the former fulltilt, pokerstars, bodog and betjam and probably 5d too. You ass clown. I'm sure you can verify that every single user got paid in full right. Prove it.

[habitualwinning]

People got fully paid by Full Tilt and Ultimate Bet, though in some cases it took years... and Bodog simply rebranded to ignition/Bovada.

I don't know why you're spreading lies or why you wrote this massive wall of text

I know of at least a dozen of my friends, myself included that never got paid. Just bc you got yours doesn't mean they didn't stiff people. They most certainly did. Speak what you know and not on behalf of everyone. You are not omnipotent.

[winkyyy]

100% Correct.......

[winkyyy]

But I have played on Bodog, Sportsbook.com ,5dimes and WAS ALWAYS PAID 100% but that was years ago


not sure what is going on now....and the BTC players will get shut down in Trumps first year...


He has Offshore Books on the guillotine.

[winkyyy]

hundreds LOST $$$ on Fulltilt are u Kidding?

[R19]

I was at the grocery store and there was an announcement about the Fed not have coins. Penny wise and trillion foolish aka put the hammer down on the commoners.

Not to sound so many alarms, but why would Five do something and then nobody else does?

[PharaohUB]

With onshore too many people with their hand in the pot for them to ever offer the value offshore can. People will find a way and there will always be someone willing to offer when there is a demand. May not be the same always but will always be an option offshore in my opinion.

[pokerdevil]

So bc you got paid means everyone got paid right? What did you have to do to get paid? Have your daddy lawyer sue for you? Suck someone's dikk? I know many people that never got their money back. Those places have been sued many times. You don't get sued unless you fukk someone over. Simple as that. / of your dumbass. Thanks for speaking on behalf of all the millions of users of the former fulltilt, pokerstars, bodog and betjam and probably 5d too. You ass clown. I'm sure you can verify that every single user got paid in full right. Prove it.

Burden of proof's on you, broke non-pro guy. You're the one saying people didn't get paid lol

[acquavallo]

1. Offshore will always be around, just like you can bet Big 3 in Harlem and get paid $950 instead of the lottery's $500. Especially Asian brokers after China economy craters.

2. Bitcoin will go to 1 million eventually- and other cryptos will rise at higher multiples. If we don't see a great depression, we will at least see the dollar & other currencies plummet. Also, we're about to run out of unfarmed bitcoins...and major cc company plus major banks & Hedge funds are about to go full tilt FOR crypto.

3. Fintechs are unleashing a wave of reciprocally- licensed international accounts combining cryptos, major currencies, stocks, debit & credit in one seamless & instant account with perks like virtual debit\cc #'s that permit using dummy name & address (for the customer's protection) and send instant funds to any email or phone for free or pennies.

4. And I wouldn't be surprised if CCCP then gets into the online betting for worldwide customers- can undercut the entire world on price & tech efficiency.

5. States won't be able to compete on price & handle unless if the Supremes nix the WIRE ACT, which would allow giant national pools with better takeout.

[Stallion]

If 5Dimes and other sportsbooks have left the US Market, which books will leave next??? Bookmaker? BetCris?? BetOnline???

[Barrakuda]

Oof. This thread has made me dumber.

There is a lot of real estate between a booming offshore gambling market and one that's completely dead. The strongest will survive.

[themike78]

Offshore will never go away. Sure books might come and go but that is in every industry. Since day 1 every few years jerkoffs keep saying it's the end of offshore. Bullshit. Remember 6 months ago when the pandemic started and all sports cancelled people kept saying all offshore books were done. I don't think 1 book closed up. As long as people gamble, offshore will never go away.

[Limited]

Agree. Plebs need panem et circenses. Politicians and elites don't want that average Joe is asking how the system works, how the money/monetary system works, how inflation works, how systemic corruption works...ETC
It is better if you are eating your cheap KfC deal watching a TV and placing some money to your favourite team, doesn't really matter if u use legit US based companies or Off shore. In 4/5 years you have your chance to execute your democracy and if you don't, even better. So yeah, gambling will stay, of shore will also stay.