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    Gotta laugh, its 2019 and nearly every "sportsbook" wont take a bet of more than pennies, all a load of pussies!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daphenom View Post
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    You cannot trust the maximum bet listed on the open bet slip. Often, the actual max is much lower, and you do not find out until you click "Confirm".

    I'm not saying that's what's happening here. I honestly don't have a horse in this race. I'm just providing info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theflyingbuffalo View Post
    It's news to me that Heritage would allow 10k bets on any account. As far as I know I've always had 500 limits on main market totals/runlines and 1k limits on ML from day 1 of my account. Always assumed that was their default, but I'm wondering now if it's only because I took the -105 vig option? Could also be they raise limits on some accounts I guess.

    Clearly they can limit for winning, but anyone else know if you ask for the low vig removed will they raise limits and would that be worthwhile?
    From other reports, those would be the standard reduced juice program limits.

    Daphemon will be on some other program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daphenom View Post
    I was told I was full of shit , take that screen shot as proof of my full of shit . Cya
    If your mother love you, it doesn't mean she love other people. You are dense, your logic fail you. The maximum I can win on bet386 is $10 cnd per mma bet. There is higher chance that you are a long term loser than people lying about being limit to peanut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    You cannot trust the maximum bet listed on the open bet slip. Often, the actual max is much lower, and you do not find out until you click "Confirm".

    I'm not saying that's what's happening here. I honestly don't have a horse in this race. I'm just providing info.
    This can be true.

    I've been all giddy I was getting down, only to find out it wasn't so.

    Kind of like being rolled by a fine hooker.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyn View Post
    These two and all other Asian books are OK only for Soccer. Although the limits are not as high as they used to be years ago.

    For all other sports - especially North American, Asian outfits are pretty much useless.
    for me asian books has high limits in north american sports already not as high as football but still, i am curious where do you bet in north american sports with highest limits than in asian books then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreyu666 View Post
    for me asian books has high limits in north american sports already not as high as football but still, i am curious where do you bet in north american sports with highest limits than in asian books then?
    The highest limits for North American sports have offshore books like Pinnacle, Bookmaker and Betonline.

    For example: I have aprox. $10k limit per click for any Baseball ML game at Pinnacle. Comparing to asian Sbobet, where limits are as low as 200 bucks.

    Can you share what Asian sportbooks exactly are you using, that offer you "high limits" for North American sports.

    And what are your Baseball limits at these Asian books.

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    yes can confirm 10k on mlb at heritage a year or 2 ago....they have gradually limited across the board, changed their lines across sports to widen the vig over and over till the point your cant get a good line. English soccer for instance was like pk -130/+110 comeback now its like pk -160/-105 or some crap like that. Their NHL totals used to be able to buy 2-3 goals up or down now 1 goal if youre lucky with insane juice margins, point buying margins shrank for football and basketball. Basically theres not one advantage to playing there. I'd pull all funds out but waiting a bit cause of so much Ive withdrawn from all books this year. They have all gone to shit, consolidated with other books and just not fun to play in any one right now. At least U.S. based ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyn View Post
    The highest limits for North American sports have offshore books like Pinnacle, Bookmaker and Betonline.

    For example: I have aprox. $10k limit per click for any Baseball ML game at Pinnacle. Comparing to asian Sbobet, where limits are as low as 200 bucks.

    Can you share what Asian sportbooks exactly are you using, that offer you "high limits" for North American sports.

    And what are your Baseball limits at these Asian books.
    Mate, Pinnacle is an asian book.. hehe.
    Never tried the other two but those ones are not asian, the thing is if those limits you if they find you are a winner or they still taking your bets? about pinnacle they allow winners so its the best one.

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    let me add not limited to heritage...5dimes also has gone waaaay down in my eyes. I tried to bet a nfl draft prop and it was a $10.00 limit. I mean WTF do you even have those lines if your going to allow $10.00 wagers?
    Betonline has decent limits, as does betdsi. Thats really about it right now, sans the broker/pinnacle crap.
    Pinnacles lines used to be razor thin. I find that their MLB lines have one of the worst vig margins now, so cleaned that out too.
    The party is over

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    Quote Originally Posted by DISTROYA View Post
    let me add not limited to heritage...5dimes also has gone waaaay down in my eyes. I tried to bet a nfl draft prop and it was a $10.00 limit. I mean WTF do you even have those lines if your going to allow $10.00 wagers?
    Betonline has decent limits, as does betdsi. Thats really about it right now, sans the broker/pinnacle crap.
    Pinnacles lines used to be razor thin. I find that their MLB lines have one of the worst vig margins now, so cleaned that out too.
    The party is over
    BetDSI now limits winners super fast post-BetCRIS breakup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreyu666 View Post
    Mate, Pinnacle is an asian book.. hehe.
    Never tried the other two but those ones are not asian, the thing is if those limits you if they find you are a winner or they still taking your bets? about pinnacle they allow winners so its the best one.
    You misunderstood my answer.

    It's obvious, that Pinnacle, Bookmaker and Betonline are not Asian sportsbooks, but US facing ones. And they don't limit you, at least Pinny and Bookmaker don't. By mentioning them, I was answering your question from post #41 ("Where else to bet on North American sports with highest limits, except at Asian books")


    And since you didn't answer my question, I'm asking you again:

    What Asian books are offering you high limits on North American sports, and what exactly are those limits for Baseball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyn View Post
    You misunderstood my answer.

    It's obvious, that Pinnacle, Bookmaker and Betonline are not Asian sportsbooks, but US facing ones. And they don't limit you, at least Pinny and Bookmaker don't. By mentioning them, I was answering your question from post #41 ("Where else to bet on North American sports with highest limits, except at Asian books")


    And since you didn't answer my question, I'm asking you again:

    What Asian books are offering you high limits on North American sports, and what exactly are those limits for Baseball?
    when i said asian books offering high limits i was talking about pinnacle obviously, there is no other that can offer high limits now that sbobet is almost dead.
    Thanks for the information you provided anyways, it seems the only reliable places nowadays that dont limit winners and you can bet high with them are pinnacle and bookmaker.
    Edit: You can also try singbet and maxbet, maybe they offer high limits for american sports also, i would love to try and check their limits but i am not in any broker that give me access to them right now unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreyu666 View Post
    Mate, Pinnacle is an asian book.. hehe.
    Never tried the other two but those ones are not asian, the thing is if those limits you if they find you are a winner or they still taking your bets? about pinnacle they allow winners so its the best one.
    Pinnacle is a Euro book with "supposedly" the sharpest odds on all sports including American. In the last 18 months I would say that they are less sharp than they have ever been but they still take large bets.
    BOL also takes $10k on MLB ml which you can re-pump after 60 seconds, and Bookmaker takes $10k which you can re-pump instantly.
    If you are a winner they will still take your bets, but at Pinnacle they will adjust the line more than they would if a loser placed the same bet. At Bookmaker they will take your bets but take you off their bonus program. At BOL they will likely continue to take your action unless you are doing something fishy with kyc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GigaOuts View Post
    If your mother love you, it doesn't mean she love other people. You are dense, your logic fail you. The maximum I can win on bet386 is $10 cnd per mma bet. There is higher chance that you are a long term loser than people lying about being limit to peanut.

    yea ok clown …...books want to get your money back if you've won from them ….so if your saying that you've won so much youre a lying joke . you ppl crack me up . bet 386 what is that a monopoly book

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daphenom View Post
    yea ok clown …...books want to get your money back if you've won from them ….so if your saying that you've won so much youre a lying joke . you ppl crack me up . bet 386 what is that a monopoly book
    You have no clue. I didn't say I won ton or even win money. All book limit player and they have their own reason. Why would so many people lie about being limit, what is there to brag about? You should stop gambling if your logic is that bad.

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    Bookmaker and don't look back. Max payouts in 6 hours or less with BTC. Full game limit is $10k on teams, $5k in totals. FF is still juicy at $3k on MLs, $2k on spreads, and $2k on totals.

    What's this Fairlay ordeal? Looked at the site and the lingo is abnormal. Do you deposit and withdrawal like any other book?

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    Yeah i don't get fairlay and exchanges either. I think you have to look for someone willing to take your bet at the line/odds you want and only for amount agreed. Sounds too painful but could be wrong. Anyways i don't do exchages not looking to be a trader just bettor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DISTROYA View Post
    Yeah i don't get fairlay and exchanges either. I think you have to look for someone willing to take your bet at the line/odds you want and only for amount agreed. Sounds too painful but could be wrong. Anyways i don't do exchages not looking to be a trader just bettor.
    At any given time there is at a minimum Pinnacle odds available for basically every sport with a minimum of 500 mbtc able to be wagered at once on a side (half a bitcoin which is currently ~6.5k). This is the constant 24/7 market maker available.

    Closer to game time, I have seen several market makers, that copy lines of books such as Pinnacle and 5dimes, offering liquidity of 5 cent juice in MLB or less in some cases. Saw +100 / -104 earlier today for one MLB moneyline.


    So for those who bet small markets, like 2nd leagues in soccer, I can almost guarantee you can get down more in terms of USD or EUR equivalent in bitcoin on Fairlay before line moves. As I said earlier, you could bet $5000+ on a challenger tennis match, with -110/-110 live odds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglesfan371 View Post
    Bitcoin is relatively predictable, hold when in sustained uptrend, get out when in sustained downtrend. There are ways to hold bitcoin and hedge out of your position with 0 market exposure if you understand how to buy futures.
    "relatively predictable." LOL.

    btw, the only futs still trading are 5 BTC per contract (i.e., increments of $60k), so not a very practical way to hedge any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GradyFuson View Post
    Pinnacle is a Euro book with "supposedly" the sharpest odds on all sports including American. In the last 18 months I would say that they are less sharp than they have ever been but they still take large bets.
    BOL also takes $10k on MLB ml which you can re-pump after 60 seconds, and Bookmaker takes $10k which you can re-pump instantly.
    If you are a winner they will still take your bets, but at Pinnacle they will adjust the line more than they would if a loser placed the same bet. At Bookmaker they will take your bets but take you off their bonus program. At BOL they will likely continue to take your action unless you are doing something fishy with kyc.
    You think BOL and BM don't move lines on sharp action? Not my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DISTROYA View Post
    let me add not limited to heritage...5dimes also has gone waaaay down in my eyes. I tried to bet a nfl draft prop and it was a $10.00 limit. I mean WTF do you even have those lines if your going to allow $10.00 wagers?
    Betonline has decent limits, as does betdsi. Thats really about it right now, sans the broker/pinnacle crap.
    Pinnacles lines used to be razor thin. I find that their MLB lines have one of the worst vig margins now, so cleaned that out too.
    The party is over
    You think -116/+108 is one of the worst vig margins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DISTROYA View Post
    yes can confirm 10k on mlb at heritage a year or 2 ago....they have gradually limited across the board, changed their lines across sports to widen the vig over and over till the point your cant get a good line. English soccer for instance was like pk -130/+110 comeback now its like pk -160/-105 or some crap like that. Their NHL totals used to be able to buy 2-3 goals up or down now 1 goal if youre lucky with insane juice margins, point buying margins shrank for football and basketball. Basically theres not one advantage to playing there. I'd pull all funds out but waiting a bit cause of so much Ive withdrawn from all books this year. They have all gone to shit, consolidated with other books and just not fun to play in any one right now. At least U.S. based ones.
    Choose the -105 program. 10-cent totals on MLB/NFL/NBA.

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    For all the limited people on the -105 vig program (go to Preferences to check), once you are logged in, go here: https://membersb.heritagesports.eu/heritage-limits.asp

    What does it say for NBA sides limits? I see $1,000.

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    Bookmaker lets me bet a measly $250 on WNBA halves and NO re-bet after line has moved.

    I can get down more at Vegas books.

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    Cloudbet are offering a 100% bonus up to 5btc (over 50k)

    They must be accepting some big time action to make that offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barrakuda View Post
    Choose the -105 program. 10-cent totals on MLB/NFL/NBA.
    they wont let me. even took away the cash back feature, bums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barrakuda View Post
    You think -116/+108 is one of the worst vig margins?
    Which book are you referring to? I stated that pinny MLB lines arent close to what they used to be, and many books beat them with better lines now when they used to be the standard. I didnt mention -116/+108 dont know where yo read that. I simply stated Heritage blew up their soccer lines and gave examples of before and after. At least for me they did.

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