[BrianLaverty]

wow... How much is WagerHub paying you to do this, betthehook?

[DBurton81]

Yeah, I had the same question! I will be posting about my experience with them tonight and trust me, it hasn't been a good one!

[WAGERHUB]

Hi guys, I am Gia, the manager over at WagerHub.com. In all honesty I dont think much of the forums as we believe on building our rep via word of mouth because we do pay on time and we do take care of our customers but I see here that people post more than they should have based on the true story or path that lead them to write a thread to begin with and this is why I decided it was time to jump in. There are always to sides of the story and of course certain customers will put only what they believe is their side and ommit most of the truth and this is why I am here.... To state our side of the story. I owe to all our loyal customers who do know we are for real and we do PAY. Dont quite understand why people who have not played with us do comment negatively about us based on what someone they dont know said unless.... the same person is opening multiple users and then posting but.. I can assure you that we are one of the best books outthere and it would only be fair if you guys asked those who complaint what brought the issue to the table. Any questions I am here and I will be more than happy to answer any questions you guys might have regarding our company and resp in general.

[Jrod124]

Yeah, I had the same question! I will be posting about my experience with them tonight and trust me, it hasn't been a good one!

stiff

[Toit]

Bring it on.

[peterbet]

DBurton81 you there? and why do people call you a stiff

[chuckrooco]

Thats what I said!

[DBurton81]

They call me a stiff because I still owe some points to a few posters on SBR. For some reason, all you guys from WagerHub on here....Chuck, Gia, and peterbet...think that people get paid points for bashing on sportsbooks. This is not the case. People lend other people points to play in the SBR casino or sportsbook.

[Jrod124]

in your case Burton, they stiff points to play at the SBR Casino-Sportsbook. Don't pay this guy a dime. Karma

[WAGERHUB]

Dustin... noticed you mentioned me saying somewhere in an e-mail probably I dont pay cheaters with those exact words... Could you post it here for us all to see because I would never say nor imply that... My job is simply to get to the bottom of what goes on which is against our rules. WagerHub.com is a family owned company like any other and we have the right to protect ourselfs regardless, just as much as any player would do so. Anyone who has any questions or wants to simply clarify what has gone on is more than welcome to call us.. Thank you guys.. Appreciate everyone's posts!

[WAGERHUB]

And one more thing.. we would never pay anyone to post anything positive about us as that is so unethical and the fact that someone would even bring it up is not fair at all to those players who have legitimately given us a chance and have seen that we really do pay and that we do go by the book. I must say that we truly care about our players and would not want them to have any sort of issued on with any other players on our behalf. Thank you guys for all your positive comments.. For those of you who have not tried us I encourage you to come on board and give us a try. I promise you wont regret it.

[DBurton81]

If anyone has any questions about my post in this thread, please reference to my thread titled, "WagerHub Stealing Money." After reading about my experience with them, you will know exactly why I have a problem with WagerHub. Tell me exactly where I have not followed your rules Gia? I have read over WagerHub's rules several times and there is no rule that says that you can't have a single account having multiple IP's. There is a rule that says only ONE ACCOUNT per IP address, but that clearly is not the issue here!

[robmpink]

If anyone has any questions about my post in this thread, please reference to my thread titled, "WagerHub Stealing Money." After reading about my experience with them, you will know exactly why I have a problem with WagerHub. Tell me exactly where I have not followed your rules Gia? I have read over WagerHub's rules several times and there is no rule that says that you can't have a single account having multiple IP's. There is a rule that says only ONE ACCOUNT per IP address, but that clearly is not the issue here!

Do you know if they offer good reload bonuses?

[xyz]

I got a timely ** payout from Wagerhub yesterday.

[BET THE HOOK]

Dburton81 paid several touts for plays and gave them his account info so they could place wagers for him. There were different IP addresses from across the country. The rules clearly state that no wise guy or touts are welcomed there and he broke the rules. Why would you ever give other people your account info to wager for you? I am just a player too and would never do that myself. So far the book has been pretty good to me.
If I had to find a negative,it would be too many circled games and not enough wagering options such as tennis parlays but they are trying to get those approved as we speak. Help Gia!! They are being pretty good to me otherwise.

[BET THE HOOK]

I have met my rollover and will try a payout on Monday. I dont think there will be a problem.

[HedgeHog]

]Dburton81 paid several touts for plays and gave them his account info so they could place wagers for him. There were different IP addresses from across the country.[/b] The rules clearly state that no wise guy or touts are welcomed there and he broke the rules. Why would you ever give other people your account info to wager for you? I am just a player too and would never do that myself. So far the book has been pretty good to me.
If I had to find a negative,it would be too many circled games and not enough wagering options such as tennis parlays but they are trying to get those approved as we speak. Help Gia!! They are being pretty good to me otherwise.

No one gives a tout their account info. The different IP addresses can be easily explained--I for one take my netbook everywhere and bet using public IPs. No real Book cares about this, but shady Books can use this as an excuse to steal.

[jboy4]

Totally agree Hedgehog!!!!!! Something just isnt right about this book. There is a reason for the D-.

[dark star]

The reason for the D- I believe is that every new book starts here

[HedgeHog]

Perhaps, but WH will remain at a D- given recent complaints. No upgrade for this Book any time soon given the extra work they're making for SBR.

[BET THE HOOK]

No one gives a tout their account info. The different IP addresses can be easily explained--I for one take my netbook everywhere and bet using public IPs. No real Book cares about this, but shady Books can use this as an excuse to steal.

I agree you can have multiple IP addresses because I use my blackberry and my laptop and even my computer at work. The problem they found with Dburton81 was that he had multiple in different sides of the country more often and faster that any plane could fly and when asked he told him he was paying services to wager for him and thats how they caught him. He told on himself and they showed him in the rules where it was stated you couldnt use wiseguy picks etc.

[HedgeHog]

I don't know how you can believe WH's version of events. They keep changing their mind on whether to pay the guy. Here's how SBR responded on the matter:


03.03.2010 05:56 PM
WagerHub complaint reported
A WagerHub (SBR rating D-) complaint has been filed. The player in question was the subject of SBR's 2/1 and 2/2 report, which chronicled WagerHub freezing the player's account balance which held $8200 due to "nonrecreational play". No rules were violated, yet WagerHub informed the player his $500 deposit would be refunded and winnings nullified. On 2/2 SBR reported that WagerHub agreed to pay the player in full.

WagerHub sent two payments to the player, for $2500 and $2000. After the player confirmed receiving $4500 toward his balance, WagerHub stated that over 40 IP addresses resolving to Canada were linked to the bettors account, and that he would not be paid the remainder of his winnings. The player does not reside in Canada. The player denies ever releasing his account details to any other person, and requested that WagerHub supply a list of the IP addresses associated with his account. The player then concluded that bets placed on his mobile phone were being linked to Canada. He states that after speaking to his cellular provider's technical department it was explained that his mobile phone carriers main server is located in Canada, and due to his geographic proximity his assigned IP is Canadian. SBR is investigating the complaint.

[BET THE HOOK]

I don't know how you can believe WH's version of events. They keep changing their mind on whether to pay the guy. Here's how SBR responded on the matter:


03.03.2010 05:56 PM
WagerHub complaint reported
A WagerHub (SBR rating D-) complaint has been filed. The player in question was the subject of SBR's 2/1 and 2/2 report, which chronicled WagerHub freezing the player's account balance which held $8200 due to "nonrecreational play". No rules were violated, yet WagerHub informed the player his $500 deposit would be refunded and winnings nullified. On 2/2 SBR reported that WagerHub agreed to pay the player in full.

WagerHub sent two payments to the player, for $2500 and $2000. After the player confirmed receiving $4500 toward his balance, WagerHub stated that over 40 IP addresses resolving to Canada were linked to the bettors account, and that he would not be paid the remainder of his winnings. The player does not reside in Canada. The player denies ever releasing his account details to any other person, and requested that WagerHub supply a list of the IP addresses associated with his account. The player then concluded that bets placed on his mobile phone were being linked to Canada. He states that after speaking to his cellular provider's technical department it was explained that his mobile phone carriers main server is located in Canada, and due to his geographic proximity his assigned IP is Canadian. SBR is investigating the complaint.

He admitted to Tom that he had touts logging in and wagering for him and then couldnt take back the confession he made. The IP addresses were not in just Canada I am told but across the country. I could believe it if there were just a few different IP's but not this many. I also think it is a stupid rule by the book that you cant use wiseguy or touts for info so this should have never came into play anyway but a posted rule is a rule and if you choose to play there then you must follow the rules there. The book should honor any bets they take and if they choose to cut you off later then so be it.

[DBurton81]

WTF BetTheHook? How much money is WagerHub paying you to post this garbage? I have never admitted to anyone that I have had touts logging in and wagering for me! I am the only person that has my login information and I am the only person that has logged into my account and made plays you idiot! Mind your own dahm business and quit posting about this situation when you don't have a clue what has gone on! I explained exactly why my account is showing several IP's...it has something to do with Verizon and BlackBerry! Get a clue!

[scdavis0]

My gut tells me that DBurton fabricated the part about paying a tout $1000 for picks to try to impart the idea that simply getting his deposit back was not acceptable because he'd be stuck money.

Not that it matters whether he did or not; he still got robbed.

[HedgeHog]

The only thing Burton is guilty of is non-recreational play which is Book-Speak for "you won too much money". Books have the right to show you the door. However, top Books pay you the entire balance as you leave, where less honorable shops try to steal some or all your money. WagerHub, despite a good start, has chosen to be in the latter category. As such, they'll never be more than a D range Book.

Tough to grow your business when you have a reputation of stealing. In fact, I have this vision of WH operating out of someone's garage in Costa Rica with a card table and three phones. Anyone else have this same feeling?

[secret007]

[BET THE HOOK]

I guess as it turns out you were a liar Dburton as we saw from the chat log Gia posted yester. In your own words you said you paid a handicapper 1000 dollars. Either you lied to us or you lied to them so now we know you ars a POINTS STIFF and a LIAR. I dont know which is worse. I think the rule you broke was and still is a stupid one that you cant pay for picks because so many losers do it but a posted rule is a rule and you broke i
As for your comment Brian Laverty I have never been paid for anything I have said about any book with more than good service. WagerHub has been great to me because I dont break the rules. If they ever screw me you will hear it here first. Now you should crawl out from under Richard at BetPhoenix's desk and take off the new company uniform he gave you with the kneepads in the front and the zipper in the back and sweep off your own doorstep.

[BET THE HOOK]

Other than the dispute can you guys really find anything wrong WagerHub has done? You didnt hear all this negativity when the free plays were being thrown out everywhere. I gave them a list of 10 wish list items that would make wagering there better such as less restrictions on teasers,reduced juice,and even tennis parlays and overnight half of them are in place and the rest are being worked on. They are trying to cater to the player. I should have a payout by noon for 8 times my deposit and then I will post about that too.It will have come in less than 24 hours.

[DBurton81]

BET THE HOOK...Please crawl out from underneath Chuck and Tom's desk in that garage in Costa Rica!! If you crawl out from underneath there, then maybe you can try to make some sense with the sentences that you are trying to put together here.

[HedgeHog]

Other than the dispute can you guys really find anything wrong WagerHub has done? You didnt hear all this negativity when the free plays were being thrown out everywhere. I gave them a list of 10 wish list items that would make wagering there better such as less restrictions on teasers,reduced juice,and even tennis parlays and overnight half of them are in place and the rest are being worked on. They are trying to cater to the player. I should have a payout by noon for 8 times my deposit and then I will post about that too.It will have come in less than 24 hours.

Kind of like asking: Other than stealing Burton's money, aren't they otherwise okay? Do you see the fallacy of your argument?

[BET THE HOOK]

They have done nothing but pay me my winnings and jump through every hoop I ask them to so why would I not give them some business? I am happy so far with what I am getting so I will give them a portion of my business until I have a reason not to. If the screw me I will post that too.

[relaaxx]

They have done nothing but pay me my winnings and jump through every hoop I ask them to so why would I not give them some business? I am happy so far with what I am getting so I will give them a portion of my business until I have a reason not to. If the screw me I will post that too.

i play at sportsbetting.com i think it should be better rated. others think the place is a scam. both can't be right. but you never see them saying anything. they may use sbr to moderate but never in a public forum do they discuss a specific case and their reasons for whatever the complaint is. WAGERHUB makes themselves look foolish. hanging on to just insane reasons for not paying. if WAGERHUB never responded here. i would never know just how bad this place is. how bad it is run. anyone who has seen the stuff they put in this thread would probably not play there. with sportsbetting.com you hear both sides by posters and decide for yourself. but WAGERHUB makes DBurton's case for him. their reasons for closeing his account are just nuts. then they continue grasping at different reasons why they should not pay.then in the end say how fair the agreement was - they insist it has to be fair because well even DBurton agreed to the terms. like he had a choice if he wanted to get at least most of his money. and now he should never speak of it again because that was in the deal. well the 1st deal was he bets-- he wins -you pay. they broke that deal.----the great deal now is -- they would keep $1900 of DBurton's balance. how nice of them. you can't trust an idiot. even a good guy that is still an idiot cannot be trusted. and that is just what you are doing. trusting a bunch of idiots with your money. they are going to run WAGERHUB into the ground. there are too many sites that are good to put up with their nonsense. every hussle works the same way. let the sucker win first. then reel him in. if you do it right he won't even know he's been taken. good luck to you.

[DBurton81]

Well said relaax! I am so glad that there are a lot of people at SBR that can see right through this BS that BetJamaica is pulling! I try to tell WagerHub how ridiculous this is and they talk to me like I am idiot and pretty much say "how dare I ask for my money that I won."

[BET THE HOOK]

Well said relaax! I am so glad that there are a lot of people at SBR that can see right through this BS that BetJamaica is pulling! I try to tell WagerHub how ridiculous this is and they talk to me like I am idiot and pretty much say "how dare I ask for my money that I won."

What is BetJamaica pulling? Do you mean Wagerhub? I got my 2nd payout today in as many days. I will request another in the morning. Hope it keeps going good.