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    littlekona
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    Super Teasers worth it or for suckers??

    Super Teasers 14,16,17 pts for basketball and up to 20 for football....are they worth it or just a sucker bet??? Good bankroll builder???

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    great for NFL football,not good for anything else

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    If they offer it, it is usually a sucker bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michael777 View Post
    great for Minnesota Vikings and Seattle Seahawks games, not good for anything else
    there, corrected it for you... if a team has a good defense but the offense is suspect, they should be your main candidates for this type of teaser
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    wagerweb got me with these when I was a newbie early 2000s

    you'll find that often your team will win out right or you didn't really need the points

    how many do you have to stack to get a decent return? I remember having some large teasers because the odds were not in my favor with those.

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    Not a fan. Hard to imagine they are good investments.

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    15 teamer +1060 getting 10 points basketball

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    I had a 14.5 point 11 team teaser a few weeks ago that was 10 for 10 until i lost the monday night vikings game. Had vikes +9.5 they lost by 10 to the bears.

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    i am a fan of the 4 or 5 team 11.5 pt tsr at 5D. payouts are + so my winning percentage can be under 50 to still turn profit. of course all the math is in there and the books hold the edge. i usually end up playing more totals than sides. just started playing them last month, 1 per week. successful to this point. and who doesn't love ten/ind Ov 41? and kc/tb un 56 looks awfully tempting. speaking of that game, usually 2 or 3 games a week where you get the extra point or point and a half point when 5D protects themselves against certain tsrs like in kc/tb or ne/sf this week. although even +24.5 at home for 49ers leaves me nervous, but not enough to make ne a no brainer at -1.5.

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    I am not sure of the underlying math, but I like betting superteasers. They seem less stressful and you get action on a bunch games and covering always seems within reach even if the game gets off to a bad start. It's probably a sucker bet but I would think if you are smart about what lines you are teasing, it can't be so bad. Like normal teasers, crossing zero should be avoided and teasing high totals is not a bright idea. It's probably best to stick to nfl and avoid college unless you find an exceptional spot.

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    I think teasers are worth it if you're including live betting where you can hedge. I do 3-team 10-point teasers all the time but always bet the Monday night game in all of the teasers. Let's say you got a +13 on a team Monday night and the opposing team goes up 10-0 and a -13 comes up in live betting all you do is hedge and lose like 10-20$ on a 200$ bet. BUT if your team covers you're essentially getting a two team 10-point teaser at -120 odds. A two team 7-point teaser is -140 odds. They are def. worth it IF you're including live-betting. It can backfire if your original team covers but I win more than I lose with this method. I always look at it as a two team 10-point teaser because if you get to the last leg of the teaser hedging doesn't matter as much as it does on the first leg.
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    needless to say and as most of you on this forum already know, I've have great success doing them in NFL, college football, NCAA mens hoops, and MLB totals......it's almost like gambling insurance or taking an ultra conservative approach...yes, there are times when you don't need the points but you are glad they are there if and when you need them...the bottom line is to win and beat the books...
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    You should think of a teaser as a parlay of chalk lines, not much different that someone parlaying -900 moneylines. Math is easy, let's say you are taking the 5 dimes biggest super teaser (19 points in NFL sides, 20 points in other football), 15 teams paying -135 (1.74 decimal). You are parlaying 15 legs at 1.74^(1/15)=1.0376 decimal = -2656 american. So, you are laying -2656 on each leg and parlaying them all. You have to hit legs at 96.37% or better to profit.

    Human mind is prone to disregard probabilities lower than 10%, thinking it would happen only in a catastrophe. But the probability is real and adds up on a multiple bet. Your call if it is worth it, but be aware that house edge on teasers is usually much higher than in straight bets.
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    Once again fukked. This time 15 team open teaser 11.5 points 50 to win 750 or so. Had 2 legs left after winning 5 games last week and 8 on Sunday afternoon.
    Lost it on Packers last night at +14.5. They freaking implode in the 4th blowing the cover only in the final 3 minutes to lose by 18.

    Still had to get thru Houston +17.5 so u never know but still hurts to make it that far and lose.
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    Whatever you do, do not use these in CFB.

    An old bookmaker once said: I'll book your college football teasers out of pocket, and never need for money again in my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cookie Monster View Post
    You should think of a teaser as a parlay of chalk lines, not much different that someone parlaying -900 moneylines. Math is easy, let's say you are taking the 5 dimes biggest super teaser (19 points in NFL sides, 20 points in other football), 15 teams paying -135 (1.74 decimal). You are parlaying 15 legs at 1.74^(1/15)=1.0376 decimal = -2656 american. So, you are laying -2656 on each leg and parlaying them all. You have to hit legs at 96.37% or better to profit.

    Human mind is prone to disregard probabilities lower than 10%, thinking it would happen only in a catastrophe. But the probability is real and adds up on a multiple bet. Your call if it is worth it, but be aware that house edge on teasers is usually much higher than in straight bets.
    In other words, if you only intend to do this once or twice in your lifetime (taking out the second mortgage, and selling a kidney type bet), it could be worth it. But doing this on a regular basis is a very sure fire way to lose your whole bankroll. Kind of like playing blackjack for a couple years straight with just basic strategy (no counting and bad rules, basically giving away 0.5%-0.8% ROI on every bet you make in the long run). You'll get away with it once or twice - or you won't - and your life will change.

    But betting like this week in and week out... is pure entertainment and should never be mixed up with advantage/sharp gambling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grivas_Digeni View Post
    Whatever you do, do not use these in CFB.

    An old bookmaker once said: I'll book your college football teasers out of pocket, and never need for money again in my life.
    this bookmaker obviously hasn't met me!...
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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    15 teamer +1060 getting 10 points basketball
    Which book?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe View Post
    Which book?
    Heritage, bro....by far and away the best payout odds for super and monster teasers...on 21 pt teasers, betonline.ag has the superior odds...


    HERITAGE SPORTS EXCLUSIVE TEASERS
    Special Super Gigantic Enormous Humongous Gargantuan
    FB 10 pts 13 pts 14 pts 17 pts 20 pts 21 pts
    BK 8 pts 10 pts 11 pts 14 pts 16 pts 17 pts
    2 -230 -385 -670 - - -
    3 -120 -195 -310 -570 - -
    4 +125 -125 -205 -370 -525 -
    5 +180 +110 -150 -270 -375 -730
    6 +245 +150 -115 -205 -290 -545
    7 +325 +190 +110 -165 -235 -430
    8 +425 +245 +135 -135 -195 -355
    9 +550 +310 +170 -110 -160 -285
    10 +700 +385 +205 +105 -130 -240
    11 +890 +480 +245 +125 -115 -200
    12 +1,135 +590 +255 +145 +105 -175
    13 +1,445 +720 +350 +170 +120 -150
    14 +1,835 +875 +410 +195 +135 -135
    15 +2,315 +1,060 +480 +220 +150 -120
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    Ok so you've made money on them. Fantastic!

    Two questions - are you 100% positive you are getting the best payout (AFAIK I can get up to 50% (!) better price on a 5-6 team football teaser at 5Dimes compared to some other books)?

    And most importantly, wouldn't you make more money betting the games straight up, or via a different kind of teaser/parlay type bet - buying less points, or splitting them into 2-team teasers? I've seen you hit several 4-6 teamers buying ... A LOT... of points... are you SURE you get the most value this way?

    I understand answering this can be complicated, but at least I'd like to know if you know how effective your method is, compared to simply bet ting every game at -110 (or -105!)
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    When I first started out I used to take the 13/10s for ~-125 per 4 teamer all of the time. Did pretty well, but this was right when I turned 18 and I was too afraid to bet more than $20 on a single bet.

    Haven't tried them in awhile, but they seem to be profitable. However, I noticed when I did them before I couldn't pick against the normal spread to save my life. I was all about getting favorites' lines down. In retrospect, I probably left a lot of money on the table using these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by astro61200 View Post
    When I first started out I used to take the 13/10s for ~-125 per 4 teamer all of the time. Did pretty well, but this was right when I turned 18 and I was too afraid to bet more than $20 on a single bet.

    Haven't tried them in awhile, but they seem to be profitable. However, I noticed when I did them before I couldn't pick against the normal spread to save my life. I was all about getting favorites' lines down. In retrospect, I probably left a lot of money on the table using these.
    betdsi charges -160 juice on a 4TM 13PT teaser!...now, that is a ripoff and outright thievery......5dimes charges (-150) on the same wager if you choose the "ties reduce" option!......that is why I'm glad to be at Heritage!...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grivas_Digeni View Post
    Ok so you've made money on them. Fantastic!

    Two questions - are you 100% positive you are getting the best payout (AFAIK I can get up to 50% (!) better price on a 5-6 team football teaser at 5Dimes compared to some other books)?

    And most importantly, wouldn't you make more money betting the games straight up, or via a different kind of teaser/parlay type bet - buying less points, or splitting them into 2-team teasers? I've seen you hit several 4-6 teamers buying ... A LOT... of points... are you SURE you get the most value this way?

    I understand answering this can be complicated, but at least I'd like to know if you know how effective your method is, compared to simply bet ting every game at -110 (or -105!)
    Winning and making money are the only criteria I worry about.......everything else is rather moot!......but to answer your question honestly, there are times when the extra insurance points come in handy and helped me win the wager and there are other times when I could have won the wagers if I just did the games straight up and individually with the spread...to me it's almost a 50/50 split...sometimes you need the points and sometimes you don't...but it's better to have peace of mind and not having to sweat the games out...and also I'm not greedy...as long I win and collect, I'm a happy man!...
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    You're better than that, I believe. Rather, I'm guessing with a decent degree of certainty. If you can win with these teasers, you'll more than likely win with straight betting, and more likely than not will actually win more (you prefer to pay for the 'piece of mind' and that's certainly your right, and your money you are betting... but mathematically, insurance is a bad bet - in gambling and in life in general).

    I did this with poker for years - played a lot, loved the game, did well.. but never tried being a real pro... never tried maximizing my profitability. Hell I was doing well enough to not work a straight job for several years. Why bother with all the new software these youngsters are using, right?

    You'll make more money if you can take the extra step and treat this like a job. Not many are capable of doing it; and winning in a 'recreational bettor mode' is great, too. I'm just not sure this is the example / guidance the OP was asking for.
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    good discussions...So far i have had decent success hitting 8 of 12 @ +1060 for 13Foot/10Bask.....But I tell you few games I needed every point had to sweat out esp in the basketball. This week I might try Humongous at +150 and try to parlay them start with all early only and then on to mid afternoon then night games..if you can hit 3 staright at 50$ bets thats 468.75 not to bad

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    In Nfl last weekend every game covered both ways except for Packer/redskins in the 13Pt teasers and that would of but for that terrible fumble on packs last drive

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    Im not a fan always one or two games that dick me, but to those that can profit to each their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Manster! View Post
    Heritage, bro....by far and away the best payout odds for super and monster teasers...on 21 pt teasers, betonline.ag has the superior odds...


    HERITAGE SPORTS EXCLUSIVE TEASERS
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    FB 10 pts 13 pts 14 pts 17 pts 20 pts 21 pts
    BK 8 pts 10 pts 11 pts 14 pts 16 pts 17 pts
    2 -230 -385 -670 - - -
    3 -120 -195 -310 -570 - -
    4 +125 -125 -205 -370 -525 -
    5 +180 +110 -150 -270 -375 -730
    6 +245 +150 -115 -205 -290 -545
    7 +325 +190 +110 -165 -235 -430
    8 +425 +245 +135 -135 -195 -355
    9 +550 +310 +170 -110 -160 -285
    10 +700 +385 +205 +105 -130 -240
    11 +890 +480 +245 +125 -115 -200
    12 +1,135 +590 +255 +145 +105 -175
    13 +1,445 +720 +350 +170 +120 -150
    14 +1,835 +875 +410 +195 +135 -135
    15 +2,315 +1,060 +480 +220 +150 -120
    Nice, thanks for the info. A lot more options than where I have been playing them. I am going to check them out. Crazy the vig jump from 20 to 21 pts. Who would think that 1 pt could mean so much. I am sure it has to do with being a multiple of 7 but I never would of thought the difference was that drastic.

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    From experience teasers can be profitable but straight betting seems to be the best money maker for me at least. With teasers i usually win 3-4 of my selections ans get screwed by that 1 last team

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    It just seems to lack bang for your buck in regard to the risk. I guess I am old school and need value where my dollars are concerned.

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    Books win no matter what... so sometimes it's better to be safe than sorry for the bettor... especially on those games losing by the hook.. tease comes in handy then.

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    When you have been constantly seeing how close the total and spread offered by books come to reality, it's easy to look at a teaser line and think this must be easy money.

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    For those huge teasers 17+ points, can you do all totals or is it just sides?

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    Quote Originally Posted by champster View Post
    For those huge teasers 17+ points, can you do all totals or is it just sides?
    at Heritage, you can tease both totals and sides!...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Manster! View Post
    Heritage, bro....by far and away the best payout odds for super and monster teasers...on 21 pt teasers, betonline.ag has the superior odds...
    I checked out betoline, I could be wrong but it looks likes ties lose in their 21 pointers where Heritage ties reduce. That could explain the disparity.

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