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    5 Dimes has the WORST 2nd Half Moneylines.....or Do They?

    Going through my Transaction History at 5 Dimes...

    Here's a few random, but egregious, examples of what I paid for 2nd Half Moneylines


    Spread was -8.0 I paid -600
    Spread was -8.5 I paid -700
    Spread was -8.0 I paid -800!


    I know...I know... you 5D groupies out there, who will knee-jerk defend them irrespective of what goes down, will come up with stupid retorts like "Just be happy you are offered the 2H ML!"

    But, for the IQ >75 folks out there, are there better 2H ML's available? And, if not, what can we do to encourage books to offer 2H ML's more correctly aligned to the pointspread?

    Here's the Standard Equivalence Chart http://www.sportility.net/nfl/moneyline_points.html
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    2H MLs are completely different from game MLs... so you can't use your chart to map out MLs odds.
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    "2H MLs are completely different from game MLs."

    Upon what basis do you make this claim?

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    With those odds in your op, I could tell that you played favorite home teams at the half when they were down around 8-10 points. So, your teams did not have to win the game, all they had to do was outscoring opponents in the second half.

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    It all depends on the score, teams, home and away, public perception, avoiding getting middled.

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    There is a basic chart, Where it starts changes is when the spread crosses over the zero or comes close to it.
    Example: Team A 32 Team b 27 but 2nd half spread is Team B -7, the moneyline on that 7 will be different to a normal 7 that does not cross a number that the game cannot land on. AKA the Tie.

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    Forgot to mention they will also differ slightly based on the total. Lower the total the more valuable the points become.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tb1984 View Post
    2H MLs are completely different from game MLs... so you can't use your chart to map out MLs odds.
    This.

    To the OP, I can assure you 5dimes prices are competitive with other books out there. Besides, if you think the -800 is a ripoff WHY are you betting them? Should be only betting the other side where the value is, no?

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    great post bigdaddy

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    So you want books to offer what you think are sharper lines

    Good fukking god I sometimes wonder about people

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    You can't really complain because point spreads are sometimes wayyyyy off pending the 1st half......for example a team favored by 8 for the game and is up 8 at halftime really had no buisness being a 2nd half line of -5.5......that's taking tge original line of 8 and making that team a 13.5 fav......and hey it happens and its just the way it goes.Anyone betting 2nd half MLs of -800 are either A.Super Rich or B.Have nooooo idea how to manage your money....why risk 800 to win 100 when anything can happen and you can risk 110 on the spread or total and win that same 100 with WAY less risk.You never know what adjustments teams may make or what player may break his leg foe the 2nd half and your Fu#@ed!!!......No reason to complain about this because professionals and anyone with a brain in there head understands that those ML's are not worth it.......even if it seems sooooook obvious its simply not worth the risk at all.

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    "" I could tell that you played favorite home teams at the half when they were down around 8-10 points." FAIL.
    "So you want books to offer what you think are sharper lines" RETARD.
    " Besides, if you think the -800 is a ripoff WHY are you betting them?" CLUELESS.
    "Anyone betting 2nd half MLs of -800 are either A.Super Rich or B.Have nooooo idea how to manage your money...." UNSCHOOLED.

    The rest of the comments? Airight I guess. Well, at least you're smarter than this guy...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSt0UPZZ1Y4

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    lost interest in 5dimes, i bet at betdsi. I am thrilled to get comped for placing sports bets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy777 View Post
    Going through my Transaction History at 5 Dimes...

    Here's a few random, but egregious, examples of what I paid for 2nd Half Moneylines


    Spread was -8.0 I paid -600
    Spread was -8.5 I paid -700
    Spread was -8.0 I paid -800!


    I know...I know... you 5D groupies out there, who will knee-jerk defend them irrespective of what goes down, will come up with stupid retorts like "Just be happy you are offered the 2H ML!"

    But, for the IQ >75 folks out there, are there better 2H ML's available? And, if not, what can we do to encourage books to offer 2H ML's more correctly aligned to the pointspread?

    Here's the Standard Equivalence Chart http://www.sportility.net/nfl/moneyline_points.html
    Yeah, that's smart, but you don't know what you're talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy777 View Post
    "" I could tell that you played favorite home teams at the half when they were down around 8-10 points." FAIL.
    "So you want books to offer what you think are sharper lines" RETARD.
    " Besides, if you think the -800 is a ripoff WHY are you betting them?" CLUELESS.
    "Anyone betting 2nd half MLs of -800 are either A.Super Rich or B.Have nooooo idea how to manage your money...." UNSCHOOLED.

    The rest of the comments? Airight I guess. Well, at least you're smarter than this guy...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSt0UPZZ1Y4
    I can assure you I know more about the value of a line than you do. But keep thinking youre falsly above everyone. Tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy777 View Post
    "2H MLs are completely different from game MLs."

    Upon what basis do you make this claim?
    You have been betting for how long??
    Dude, quit gambling.....

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    Wow! So many rule-breakers. I thought I TOLD you, it's a 75 IQ minimum before you can post here, guys.
    Some of you aren't even registering at HALF that! baha

    This girl is even better than y'all! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH2OUnJPsFk

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    Ranger writes - "I can assure you I know more about the value of a line than you do. But keep thinking youre falsly above everyone. Tool."

    This from the guy who told me I would be better off betting the LOSING side. After the game.

    That's what I've come to expect from the posters on this thread, folks. Guys who can't figure out not to bet on the losing team...even after the results are in!

    bahahahah

    PS Be more like Tyler - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXmjxCzyvoU

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478 View Post

    This.

    To the OP, I can assure you 5dimes prices are competitive with other books out there. Besides, if you think the -800 is a ripoff WHY are you betting them? Should be only betting the other side where the value is, no?
    thread over

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy777 View Post
    Ranger writes - "I can assure you I know more about the value of a line than you do. But keep thinking youre falsly above everyone. Tool."

    This from the guy who told me I would be better off betting the LOSING side. After the game.

    That's what I've come to expect from the posters on this thread, folks. Guys who can't figure out not to bet on the losing team...even after the results are in!

    bahahahah

    PS Be more like Tyler - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXmjxCzyvoU
    The fact that you think that was my point, only furthers my point. Maybe you should take your own advice on the greater than 75 IQ required and stop posting in your own thread.

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    The fact that you MISSED the obvious point that all those games I listed were winners and STILL don't get how wrong you are, not only after the game results, but after I pointed out the games results, suggests YOUR IQ is in the neighborhood of the SQUARE root of 72. bahahah

    But the real question, folks - Can he spell R-E-S-P-E-C-T! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSt0UPZZ1Y4

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    ADR 51 writes "You have been betting for how long?? Dude, quit gambling....."

    bahah Read this guy's posts folks. Here's a recent list -

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/search/ADR...944-posts.html

    He goes around and rips on everybody else.

    This is what happens to people when they are LOW IQ........ AND have a tiny penis!

    bahahahah

    So....OWNED.

    PS But hey, at least his is bigger than....hers! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmh6mD_qsUk

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy777 View Post
    The fact that you MISSED the obvious point that all those games I listed were winners and STILL don't get how wrong you are, not only after the game results, but after I pointed out the games results, suggests YOUR IQ is in the neighborhood of the SQUARE root of 72. bahahah

    But the real question, folks - Can he spell R-E-S-P-E-C-T! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSt0UPZZ1Y4
    The fact you are using the result of the outcomes instead of the point at hand about correct price suggests you are no better than the people are you falsely belittling. But keep babbling on about low IQ this, low IQ that. The phrase "pot calling the kettle black" was created for ignorant fools like yourself.
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    Is this a troll thread?

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    "Is this a troll thread?"
    Well, with your arrival, it certainly is! bahaha

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yvh0JnKwe4

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy777 View Post
    ADR 51 writes "You have been betting for how long?? Dude, quit gambling....."

    bahah Read this guy's posts folks. Here's a recent list -

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/search/ADR...944-posts.html



    He goes around and rips on everybody else.

    This is what happens to people when they are LOW IQ........ AND have a tiny penis!

    bahahahah

    So....OWNED.

    PS But hey, at least his is bigger than....hers! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmh6mD_qsUk
    .

    I'm owned by an idiot how does not even know the diffrence between game money lines and 2nd half money lines?

    You are so lame, how old are you 11?

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