[mattty262]

HELLO MY NAME IS MATT AND I'M 44. I HAVE BEEN SPORTBETTING FOR 30 YEARS AND HAVE DONE IT IN ALL DIFFERENT WAYS. SINCE THE INTERNET GO STRONGER IT WAS JUST EASIER TO BET AT HOME. BUT WAS IT SAFE AND SECURE? IF YOU WIN WERE YOU GOING TO GET YOUR MONEY? SCAREY BUT MOST OF US GAVE IT A SHOT. I WILL NOT SIT HERE AND TELL YOU HOW MUCH I LOST OVER THE YEARS, MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN THERE. I WILL ALSO NOT SIT HERE AND TELL YOU HOW MUCH I HAVE WIRED TO SPORTS BETTING SITES SINCE YOU HAVE ALL DONE THE SAME THING. BUT I WILL TELL YOU WHAT JUST HAPPENED TO ME RECENTLY. AS I HAVE CHANGED BOOKS OVER THE YEARS I GOT AN EMAIL FROM 1 V*CE ABOUT GREAT BONUSES AND REBATES IF I GO TO THEM. I HAVE DEALT WITH THIS GUY BEFORE............... HE LEFT THE SPORTS BOOK AND NOW RUNS AND OWNS 1 V*CE FROM WHAT I'M TOLD. TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT I WAS GETTING GREAT BONUSES AND REBATES BUT LOOSING. THEN THE WEEK CAME THAT I COULDN'T LOSE, IT STARTED WITH A 50 DOLLAR REBATE. HMMMMMM WHATS A REBATE???? WELL TO ME A REBATE IS NOT A BONUS ITS A % BACK FROM BETTING IN THINGS LIKE CASINO, RACETRACK OR % OF MONEY YOU PUT IN THE PAST WEEK. IT STARTED WITH SMALL PARLAYS SOME 1ST 5 INNINGS BET AND LUCKY CASINO. WELL AFTER MY 1ST BIG HIT AT THE TRACK I GOT AN EMAIL SAYING THIS " I was just looking at the superfecta you put in 5 seconds before the race started? It should have been closed for betting." " I just got called from the horse dept, they are looking at your account for possible past post bets, DO NOT USE the racebook until I give you the ok ". THIS IS WHAT I'M TOLD AFTER MY FIRST BIG HIT IN YEARS????????? WOW. I WAS STARTING TO TURN UNCERTAIN: NOW I MADE MY 50 DOLLAR REBATE 18000 DOLLARS.... HMMMM WAS A GOOD 2 DAYS. THE CASINO DID IT FOR ME TO I COULDN'T LOSE. AND WHEN I WAS WINNING ALL OF A SUDDEN THE CASINO WENT DOWN AND I GOT THIS MESSAGE VIA EMAIL. " The casino is down for the next 24 hrs" " 24 hrs and it will be fixed. There is some issue with the live dealer feed. They are running tests". LIVE DEALER FEED???? I WAS PLAYING VIRTUAL NOT LIVE. HMMMMMM MYSTRY AGAIN AND UNCERTAIN OK LETS GET TO THE POINT. NOT EVERYONE HAS WEEKS LIKE THIS AND THEY SAY FREEPLAYS HAVE EITHER A 10X OR 15X ROLLOVER. 10X50= 500 15X50=750 IN MY CALCULATIONS. SO NOW I'M REAL HAPPY AND SAY I WANT TO CASH OUT AND I GET THIS EMAIL. " I just want to also remind you that since you were given a $50 rebate and that is what you are playing with that by our rules you are only allowed to have a max win and max payout of $2500 " WHAT????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME"? DO I HAVE TO REMIND YOU ALL AS HOW MUCH I PUT INTO SPORTSBOOKS OVER THE YEARS AND HOW MUCH I PUT INTO HIS AND HIS PREVIOUS ONE???? NO I DON'T I THINK YOU GET THE POINT. 18500 DOLLARS AND I CAN ONLY GET 2500? WHATS THE POINT OF PLAYING HERE???? THIS SPORTSBOOK IS A JOKE, NOT FAIR, VERY RUDE WHEN YOU WIN AND MAKE LIFE MISERABLE DON'T PLAY HERE. NOW BEFORE I LEAVE I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS BS RULE WITH REBATES IS NOT EVEN ON THE RULES IN THE SITE. I HAVE PRINTED ALL THE RULES AND DONT SEE IT. STAY AWAY FROM VICE. MATTTY P.S IT IS VERY UNFORTUNATE THAT GRIFFIN DID THIS TO ME. IT'S ALSO AMAZING THAT IF YOU LOSE NOTHING IS SAID. THEY WANTED ME TO DEPOSIT A LARGE SOME OF MONEY I WOULD IMAGINE 10 G JUST TO GET 10 G BACK. AND THEY SAID I CAN ONLY GET 900 A WEEK.... WHAT THE HELL???? CRAZY CRAP. SEE IF THEY TELL YOU THAT YOU CAN GET ONLY 900 A WEEK AND THEY LET YOU PLAY CASINO THEY KNOW IT WILL BE GONE. BEWARE. MATTTY

[onemoregoal]

I had a long answer, this is the shortened version:
"LOL".

[mattty262]

One time In my life I cant lose. But I did .

[thebookie]

The truth to this story is player was well aware to the MAX payout, and was even told to STOP, so Max cash could be processed. Client Requested $900 p2p, instead of the $2500, and was paid next day, and lost the remaining funds.

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1-vice rules on the rebate we give are crystal clear to anyone who wants to read them


Gamblers insurance bonuses are calculated by the amount a person deposits per month. Players can get up to 20% back from the deposits they have made during that month. Rebate are given at the beginning of every month on the 1st. Players must contact us on the 1st to receive this, it is not automatic. Rebates are given in the form of a FREE PLAY.


Gamblers insurance bonuses must be rolled over a minimum of 10 times before requesting a payout. The maximum rebate allowed is $1500. There is a max payout of $2500 off any rebate given.


To be eligible for ANY type of rebate, you must not have had any recent payouts or be up over all on the house.


REBATES WILL BE GIVEN OUT ON THE 1ST OF EVERY MONTH TO THOSE THAT QUALIFY. PLEASE CONTACT US TO SEE IF YOUR ELIGIBLE!


http://www.*****.ag/bonuses/

[DimSum]

WOW!! he lost $17600 back ?????

[bettingstation]

well, rules is rules.... no question ask.... reminders to all co-members of sbr... please always read t and c...

[robmpink]

WOW!! he lost $17600 back ?????

OK, now I will read this thread. You peeked my interest with this amount.

[robmpink]

The truth to this story is player was well aware to the MAX payout, and was even told to STOP, so Max cash could be processed. Client Requested $900 p2p, instead of the $2500, and was paid next day, and lost the remaining funds.

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1-vice rules on the rebate we give are crystal clear to anyone who wants to read them


Gamblers insurance bonuses are calculated by the amount a person deposits per month. Players can get up to 20% back from the deposits they have made during that month. Rebate are given at the beginning of every month on the 1st. Players must contact us on the 1st to receive this, it is not automatic. Rebates are given in the form of a FREE PLAY.


Gamblers insurance bonuses must be rolled over a minimum of 10 times before requesting a payout. The maximum rebate allowed is $1500. There is a max payout of $2500 off any rebate given.


To be eligible for ANY type of rebate, you must not have had any recent payouts or be up over all on the house.


REBATES WILL BE GIVEN OUT ON THE 1ST OF EVERY MONTH TO THOSE THAT QUALIFY. PLEASE CONTACT US TO SEE IF YOUR ELIGIBLE!


http://www.*****.ag/bonuses/

I'm a degen, but this takes the cake. Reality is reality. Why would someone keep gambling trying to make more when they could only get $2,500?

[Kaabee]

what a penetrating joke. you can get a $1500 rebate, do $15000 in rollover and you are only allowed to win an additional $1000? sick joke.

[big joe 1212]

what a penetrating joke. you can get a $1500 rebate, do $15000 in rollover and you are only allowed to win an additional $1000? sick joke.

this is what i was thinking

what a stupid program! and they even make you call to get it.

[bettilimbroke999]

what a penetrating joke. you can get a $1500 rebate, do $15000 in rollover and you are only allowed to win an additional $1000? sick joke.

ROFLMAO...rules like this should result in automatic F rating

[robmpink]

ROFLMAO...rules like this should result in automatic F rating

Yeah, SBR ratings are top notch.

[thebookie]

what a penetrating joke. you can get a $1500 rebate, do $15000 in rollover and you are only allowed to win an additional $1000? sick joke.

Not sure what the Joke is ?? But an extra bonus that gives players the opportunity, to win a little extra cash from a sportsbook that pays, and pays fast, is NOT a joke.

[bettilimbroke999]

Yeah, SBR ratings are top notch.

LOL SBR weighted ratings formula .0001 * financial security + .0001 * payout speed + .0001 * chances theyll still be in business in a year + .9997 * what they pay SBR

[robmpink]

LOL SBR weighted ratings formula .0001 * financial security + .0001 * payout speed + .0001 * chances theyll still be in business in a year + .9997 * what they pay SBR

pretty much sums it up.

[Legions36]

OP has no case at all. This falls in the same category as no deposit freeplays, they have a max winning payout. The owner of this book is straight up also, which needs to be noted here.

[RichardGeorge]

Lol at a max rebate of 1500 with a 10x rollover yet can only cash out 2500,. Can't make this shit up. This book is a joke and always has been

[thebookie]

Richard George, this is a FREE ROLL, no deposit extra bonus, that players can take advantage of... how does that make the sportsbook a joke???

While other sportsbook blow cash on advertising, books like 1-v-i-c-e, prefer to reward players with extra bonuses.

[RichardGeorge]

Heritage gives cash back quarterly with no max payout.

5dimes give you cash back on losses whenever u request it with no max payout.

These are both CASH and still don't have a max payout. And they both have very small rollovers...


You give it out as a Freeplay and have a max payout.

If a person loses 7500 in a month.. You give him a 1500 Freeplay. He has to make a total of 15000 in bets just to win an extra 1000.

A rebate is not a bonus.. Much different.


Your book is a fuckin joke and the fact that you get rid of people after they win 5k speaks all you have to know about this shit book. In addition.. The limits are a joke!

You really shouldn't criticize any book.. You guys are as small time as it gets

[robmpink]

I don't think these books pretend to be 5 Dimes or Heritage. What good is 5 Dimes or Heritage to rec players? You don't get the same bonuses. These people pay as well. Yeah, Heritage and 5 Dimes are great books, but are not crafted for everyone's needs.

[bettingstation]

heritage is good but hows the payout option?

[PD77]

Why is "the bookie" allowed to post in this thread?

[robmpink]

Why is "the bookie" allowed to post in this thread?

I'm happy he did. We would have had a 19k mystery on our hands.

[Rangers901]

***** is a joke. A rebate is a rebate, not a bonus. We all keep returning to the fact someone who receives a $1500 rebate must wager $15,000 to win an extra $1000. Honestly, it seems like after this happened they quickly pasted this rule on their website so they could point to that once he went to the forums. Shady tactics from a shady book. Stick to real books instead of Mickey Mouse shops, than things like this wouldn't happen.