[Spanks]

good luck

[Digo]

Betfair is acting very suspicious for what i've heard, but in this case, looks like you are in the scam side man =/

[Hareeba!]

Beyond Betfair's word, there is no evidence for this. The processor paid $400,000. We can corroborate that Betfair paid this much to them and no more, making for a cheap 11% settlement for Betfair on the $3,500,000.

Nothing in Justin's video casts any doubt on the money having been paid by Betfair to the player's agent?

[tommygun]

Betfair isn't stiffing anyone, the processor has stiffed the player.

[Justin7]

Betfair isn't stiffing anyone, the processor has stiffed the player.

I have seen perhaps 300 cases of a processor failing, and stiffing a player. In almost 100% of those cases, the sportsbook made it right.

If this case ultimately hinges on Betfair using a bad processor, Betfair would join BetEd as the only books to screw a player based on a processor. But at least BetEd folded after the fiasco.

[Hareeba!]

I have seen perhaps 300 cases of a processor failing, and stiffing a player. In almost 100% of those cases, the sportsbook made it right.

If this case ultimately hinges on Betfair using a bad processor, Betfair would join BetEd as the only books to screw a player based on a processor. But at least BetEd folded after the fiasco.

In the ordinary course of events Betfair don't use "processors" do they?

I've always received direct and pretty well immediate withdrawals from Betfair to my nominated account.

This chap nominated "PSP" as his agent for the transaction.

imho the case really rests on who's agent "PSP" is.

If Betfair's, then yes they have a responsibility to get it fixed up.

If the player's, then that's not Betfair's responsibility unless they recommended him to use them.

I've never heard of Betfair making any such recommendation and it seems nobody else has either.

Until those issues are resolved it is premature to call Betfair at fault.

[brettels]

Is hareeba allowed to shill non stop for the one reason that he paid for SBR PRO status? I think so!

[Hareeba!]

Is hareeba allowed to shill non stop for the one reason that he paid for SBR PRO status? I think so!

[FourLengthsClear]

I have seen perhaps 300 cases of a processor failing, and stiffing a player. In almost 100% of those cases, the sportsbook made it right.

If this case ultimately hinges on Betfair using a bad processor, Betfair would join BetEd as the only books to screw a player based on a processor. But at least BetEd folded after the fiasco.

Can you consider this to be a 'processor' issue though given that the PSP was also the master-account holder?

I still really don't understand what the nature of the problems were for the player when he had his own direct account and why/how he ended up with the arrangement with the PSP and I guess that the only way will will know for sure is if the case ever goes to court with Betfair as a defendant.

[sa6o]

so a big UK company is stealing and no one could give an advise what to do?

what is the purpose of this forum?
are we all helpless when UK regulated companies like Betfair steal even deposits??

and my ID is OK!

Which bookmakers don't steal then?
Please don't tell me they must have a license.

[FourLengthsClear]

so a big UK company is stealing and no one could give an advise what to do?

what is the purpose of this forum?
are we all helpless when UK regulated companies like Betfair steal even deposits??

and my ID is OK!

Which bookmakers don't steal then?
Please don't tell me they must have a license.

Submit a complaint through the LGA (Malta) which regulates the exchange games.
http://www.lga.org.mt/lga/home.aspx

[sa6o]

they don't reply.

[austin]

and my ID is OK!

that was exactly what 'Jane' claimed accusing befred of stealing

[FourLengthsClear]

they don't reply.

When did you submit the complaint? I have dealt with the LGA a couple of times and they were slow but did respond (once positively) eventually.

Also how much did you receive from Betfair in terms of loss refunds? Was using this "risk-free" promotion your only activity on the site?

[tommygun]

As far as I'm concerned, Betfair is safe to play at.

[sa6o]

As far as I'm concerned, Betfair is safe to play at.

I hope they steal from you.

LGA said my case is interesting and I'm waiting for an answer.
It's not about the money-35 euro is not money.
I simply cannot agree Betfair to steal from me.
if a scam bookmaker don't pay me,I'd agree ,as this is their usual way of doing business.

[shari91]

I hope they steal from you.

LGA said my case is interesting and I'm waiting for an answer.
It's not about the money-35 euro is not money.
I simply cannot agree Betfair to steal from me.
if a scam bookmaker don't pay me,I'd agree ,as this is their usual way of doing business.

I understand you're frustrated but there's no need to wish ill on another poster. 99% of us who play with Betfair never even have to talk to their Customer Service, let alone have a problem with them. Everyone is always going to have different views on a book or an exchange but try to keep your anger directed towards Betfair and not anyone who comes in here to give their opinion. Best of luck.

[boxcutter]

Looks like the the screwing is happening from both ends to me problem is Betfairs is bigger than yours.lol

You trued to take liberties and be too cute and ended up being bent over yourself. In my experiece BF have always paid but they are quite simply too big for their boots. The real issue is that exchange users need more options than the staleness that is out there. Betfair are affectively a monopoly so they can do what they want. Kinda like a big bully.

But you know what happens to bullies eventually they end up getting smacked when they aint looking .lol

[yokspot]

Looks like the the screwing is happening from both ends to me problem is Betfairs is bigger than yours.lol

Yeah, ha ha ha. He's been robbed, ha ha ha. Real fuckin' funny, right?

I hope YOU get robbed, too.

In my experiece BF have always paid.

In my experience:

1) They stole $3,100,000 from one Russian (caveat that they may have paid the processor; we have no evidence for this).

2) They stole at least several million more in Happy Hour confiscations.

What was that about "your experience" again? Looks like you're a tad behind the times.

[tommygun]

Yeah, ha ha ha. He's been robbed, ha ha ha. Real fuckin' funny, right? I hope YOU get robbed, too. In my experience: 1) They stole $3,100,000 from one Russian (caveat that they may have paid the processor; we have no evidence for this). 2) They stole at least several million more in Happy Hour confiscations. What was that about "your experience" again? Looks like you're a tad behind the times.

They pay.

[boxcutter]

Yeah, ha ha ha. He's been robbed, ha ha ha. Real fuckin' funny, right?

I hope YOU get robbed, too.





Errr , why would you WANT that for . ???



In my experience:

1) They stole $3,100,000 from one Russian (caveat that they may have paid the processor; we have no evidence for this).

2) They stole at least several million more in Happy Hour confiscations.

What was that about "your experience" again? Looks like you're a tad behind the times.

My experience is not that long but trying to learn all the time. That aint a crime a hope.

I take it you PERSONALLY have been robbed then from Betfair ?

What do you think about Betdaq as an alternative to our friends at BF ?

[allin1]

What do you think about Betdaq as an alternative to our friends at BF ?

betdaq is regulated by UK gambling commission making it a very safe place imho. They have lower commissions but they have a limited range of markets, lower liquidity/volume

[tommygun]

betdaq is regulated by UK gambling commission making it a very safe place imho. They have lower commissions but they have a limited range of markets, lower liquidity/volume

betdaq sucks, I have an acct at betdaq, smarkets and betfair. Smarkets is a handy competitor and I am hoping this book really picks up, i have high hopes.

[allin1]

betdaq sucks, I have an acct at betdaq, smarkets and betfair. Smarkets is a handy competitor and I am hoping this book really picks up, i have high hopes.

Don't even have an account with them but I definitely must open one. I wonder how popular will they become in the next 2 years. Too bad they are Malta-based. I generally have more trust in the UK regulated ones.

[tommygun]

Don't even have an account with them but I definitely must open one. I wonder how popular will they become in the next 2 years. Too bad they are Malta-based. I generally have more trust in the UK regulated ones.

They have a huge financial backing, their office is in the UK.

[brettels]

meh!

[allin1]

They have a huge financial backing, their office is in the UK.

Yeah, I noticed they have an office in London but being registered in Malta, they aren't regulated by the UK Gambling Commission. At least that's how I understood from their website.

[Hareeba!]

meh!

It's always great to see your fabulously insightful contributions to this forum's threads. Keep it up mate.

[brettels]

Betfair is solid for Aussie and UK customers. Outside those countries it can be risky, hareeba will refuse to accept that.

[Hareeba!]

Betfair is solid for Aussie and UK customers. Outside those countries it can be risky, hareeba will refuse to accept that.

Possibly true that they would encounter fewer fraudsters, swindlers and criminals amongst Australian and British customers than from certain other locations.

[brettels]

that just proves what your purpose here is hareeba! i hope the mods figure you out!

[Hareeba!]

that just proves what your purpose here is hareeba! i hope the mods figure you out!

You'll never understand my "purpose here".

If you doubt what I said it simply proves you don't know much about the business.

Any online bookie would put you straight should you get the opportunity to talk to them.

[brettels]

Can you summarize what happened with that 3 million dollar or pound issue betfair had?

[Hareeba!]

Can you summarize what happened with that 3 million dollar or pound issue betfair had?

Are you saying you're incapable of reading and comprehending it from the long running thread?

[brettels]

so you have summarized it in that thread? I will go read it there if you have?