1. 01-08-12 08:18 AM #1
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    New book or old book repackaged?



    "Paying winners fast for over 10 years"? I've been doing this way to long to not know this book. Just wondering who repackaged and shined up a default or lousy book.
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  2. 01-09-12 04:11 PM #2
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    Any background info on this book? Not in the ratings, just wondering who the gringo was behind it.

    Edit by SBR Lou: A newswire was added this morning.
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  3. 01-12-12 04:13 PM #3
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    fyi...
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  4. 01-12-12 05:49 PM #4
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    I think they should pay for a graphic designer.
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  5. 01-13-12 01:15 AM #5
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    never seen these guys before
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  6. 01-13-12 04:11 AM #6
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    is a turnkey or EVODP licencee which is a group with quite the past - near certainly should avoid.
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  7. 01-18-12 06:53 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by prop View Post
    is a turnkey or EVODP licencee which is a group with quite the past - near certainly should avoid.
    Thank you for the heads up, they continue to hammer my email with offers.
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  8. 01-18-12 06:57 AM #8
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    by a locks's broadness saying hi...

    Dang, Thanks close to open-minded of the distinguished forum!
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  9. 01-18-12 07:00 AM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterMinister View Post
    Thank you for the heads up, they continue to hammer my email with offers.
    That alone should tell you all you need to know.
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  10. 01-18-12 09:12 AM #10
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    they are talking about over 10 years industy experience but there is not any info about book history.
    At least an "about us" page necessary meanwhile what does NFL Europe mean?

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  11. 01-18-12 09:26 AM #11
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    Same server as wagepage.com.
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  12. 01-18-12 09:28 AM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by prop View Post
    is a turnkey or EVODP licencee which is a group with quite the past - near certainly should avoid.
    Yep, including SexyWagers. Whats the Evo link? Phone number match up?
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  13. 01-18-12 09:34 AM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterMinister View Post
    Thank you for the heads up, they continue to hammer my email with offers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Monte View Post
    That alone should tell you all you need to know.
    agree.
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  14. 01-21-12 03:30 PM #14
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    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbook...ok-update.html

    So this book is now a "average" book? If I had to guess the "Veteran industry manager" may have had something to do with the old book BetJoint.
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  15. 01-21-12 05:30 PM #15
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    Were they also involved in Betsportsweb.com ?

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  16. 01-21-12 08:07 PM #16
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    from what i heard the guy behind had ties with a few B + rated books in the past , i doubt SBR would give anyone a C rating to start which is pretty decent if they had anything to do with the Betsportsweb ordeal.
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  17. 01-22-12 05:09 AM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Dozer View Post
    Yep, including SexyWagers. Whats the Evo link? Phone number match up?
    Design was recognizable was first clue, but IP on same c-class of the others it took 45 seconds to match it up.

    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterMinister View Post
    So this book is now a "average" book? If I had to guess the "Veteran industry manager" may have had something to do with the old book BetJoint.
    Seems reasonable to me. If new books start as C as the base and this one has some experience behind it but connection to software provider where there's been trouble in the past small knock down to C- and let them work from there.

    It's splitting hairs and not really a complaint as the ratings here are so valuable but it seems there are far too many sportsbooks rated D+ here and the gap between D+ and D is so much larger than all other gaps. It at least appears that way. Like there's this need to look at D+ so much closer and think is this a okay let's risk it if highly +EV D+ or is this an avoid D+ lol (for sure the toughest ratings group to gauge). C and C- usually tell me okay only if value is there (avoid otherwise) try them out depositing a single bet at a time and cash out if reaching +3 bets.
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  18. 01-22-12 08:42 AM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by prop View Post
    Design was recognizable was first clue, but IP on same c-class of the others it took 45 seconds to match it up.



    1.Seems reasonable to me. If new books start as C as the base and this one has some experience behind it but connection to software provider where there's been trouble in the past small knock down to C- and let them work from there.

    It's splitting hairs and not really a complaint as the ratings here are so valuable but it seems there are far too many sportsbooks rated D+ here and the gap between D+ and D is so much larger than all other gaps. It at least appears that way. Like there's this need to look at D+ so much closer and think is this a okay let's risk it if highly +EV D+ or is this an avoid D+ lol (for sure the toughest ratings group to gauge). 2. C and C- usually tell me okay only if value is there (avoid otherwise) try them out depositing a single bet at a time and cash out if reaching +3 bets.
    1. Should we be trusting a "veteran industry manager", who probably has no direct ties to the FINANCIAL BACKING OF THIS BOOK? Anyone could manage the book, but if the owner and or backer of the book refuses to pay in a timely manner, then it's all for not.
    2. One of the more sensible ways to approach the C rated books. I like the idea and would hope more people use the C books like this til trust is built. Great knowledge and thank you for sharing.
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  19. 01-22-12 08:57 AM #19
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    We will have to await SBRs response on the financial backing , but you need to understand not everyone wants to be in the spotlight claiming they are backing the book.

    SBR posters need to realize that they will always be on a need to know basis specially when not only gamblers read this forum.. if you all know what I mean.

    The C rating is a good start and hopefully with a new web design and some more insight from SBR this could be a good book
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  20. 01-27-12 05:53 PM #20
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