[durito]

Why are you so poor if you know the "right side" at pinny?

[Emily_Haines]

Emily do you subscribe to RAS?

yes

[Emily_Haines]

Why are you so poor if you know the "right side" at pinny?

Who ever said I was poor?

[durito]

I just assumed someone bitching about limits at heritage would be poor or at least a big loser at sportsbetting. You are chasing steam, expect to get limited. (greek limits accounts too you know).

[durito]

yes

lol, you think greek will let you bet ras before the move?

[Emily_Haines]

lol, you think greek will let you bet ras before the move?

I have been betting RAS there for years now. Also a ton of my own stuff. Average day I used to have 3000-5000 in action at the Greek. Sometimes up to 15k on Saturaday's big cards. Had to cut down this year because of the current climate but still do bet the RAS stuff there and have been doing so all year. Heritage could have had all this action but they simply don't want it. They kick out winners and SBR still maintains their A rating.

[durito]

what you bet $200 a game? try betting the max and you will get a note threatening you with a phone only account.

lots of A books kick out winners. if you do so well at greek pinny and bet so little, i don't see what you want with heritage.

[sideloaded]

durito how do you get down RAS totals?

[durito]

locals

[Emily_Haines]

what you bet $200 a game? try betting the max and you will get a note threatening you with a phone only account.

lots of A books kick out winners. if you do so well at greek pinny and bet so little, i don't see what you want with heritage.

Maybe that is the reason Greek hasn't threatened me with delay. I try to stay under the radar by not max betting RAS stuff. You really think Heritage deserves an A rating when they hand pick their customers and refuse sharp action?

[durito]

i don't really care. they pay, they might as well be a. unless you want pinny to be the only a book.

[Emily_Haines]

i don't really care. they pay, they might as well be a. unless you want pinny to be the only a book.

So that's the new criteria for the best possible rating is if you pay?

[Emily_Haines]

When Loshak interviewed Heritage, Mike said they were going to work with Greek on the sharp accounts. They never did any such thing they started kicking out players on day 1. They lied their asses off and SBR could give two shits about it.

[LVHerbie]

So that's the new criteria for the best possible rating is if you pay?

I'll play along and pretend you are native (despite being here over two years)...

A- to A+ Elite, top 1% of all Sportsbooks, Guaranteed safety & quality.
B- to B+ Good, minimal risk to players funds. Top 10% of all books.
C- to C+ Average to below average cust. service with some risk to players funds.
D- to D+ Poor, some risk to players funds. Poor customer service, etc.
F Outright scam, book on brink of failure. Little to no chance to recover funds

Notice rec vs. pro, ability to bet steam, limits, and reduced juice aren't really mentioned right?

[Walter Abrams]

well i am done with them, they suspended my account, they found out my account name n all are match, they said a trusted customer contacted them and pointed out my posts n how they were half lies, n such n they don't need me as a player that bad mouths them, oh well i have some options to play with

I thought this forum was a watchdog site? A sponsor wouldnt book know a posting handle, unless the forum was sharing posters personal info with the book. Then to be penalized for something negative said about a sponsor book on a watchdog site? WOW

[Emily_Haines]

I'll play along and pretend you are native (despite being here over two years)...



Notice rec vs. pro, ability to bet steam, limits, and reduced juice aren't really mentioned right?

Those ratings are wrong

Here are the real ratings:

A+ Pinnacle, Greek
C Bookmaker, 5dimes
F- everyone else

[LordVodka]

You are smart enough to figure out why a sponsored book has higher ratings.

Every site is like this. There is a conflict of interest. You can't review a book objectively if they are also in business with you.

[HedgeHog]

I don't think Heritage is a sponsor Book, which makes their A- even more impressive. And if the OP wants to complain about overrated sponsor Books, take a look at Betonline, B+ and SBR recommended. What a joke.

[PD77]

I thought this forum was a watchdog site? A sponsor wouldnt book know a posting handle, unless the forum was sharing posters personal info with the book. Then to be penalized for something negative said about a sponsor book on a watchdog site? WOW

More than likely the individual used the same name for his tournament nickname at heritage as he uses here. Wouldn't be hard to figure out. Pretty sure SBR had nothing to do with it. And heritage isn't a sponsor.

[Emily_Haines]

I don't think Heritage is a sponsor Book, which makes their A- even more impressive. And if the OP wants to complain about overrated sponsor Books, take a look at Betonline, B+ and SBR recommended. What a joke.

I only play at Pinny, Greek, bookmaker and 5dimes. All the rest not worthy of my time. I only gave Heritage a try because they already jacked my money and Loshack said they weren't going to collar sharps. Had I known upfront that this was going to happen I would have wasn't one second of my time with them.

Heritage does almost everything to make sure you don't win. They put up lines late and by the time you can bet sharps have already pounded numbers. The cut your limits on certain sports if you show any acumen. If you bet steam they are going to put a delay on your account. They shade a lot of events to make sure you bet at -120, -125 etc and don't even give you an option of changing to lower vig option. They copy Pinny's numbers and move their odds within seconds of any Pinny move with the addition of considerable vig to it. If Pinny is considered the sharpest book in the world and Heritage mirrors all their moves except with MUCH higher juice and you can't bet jack shit on the stuff you are good at. How are you going to beat them?

I strongly suggest the US player does not play there. 5dimes and bookmaker are better options.

[HedgeHog]

So an A Book is one that you can beat easily and is willing to allow you to keep doing so? This sense of entitlement of yours has worn thin with everyone. Heritage is an A Book because they pay their clients quickly....period. They aren't your personal ATM machine and they are eager to pay you free of charge to leave. Do us all a favor and take them up on it.

[Emily_Haines]

So an A Book is one that you can beat easily and is willing to allow you to keep doing so? This sense of entitlement of yours has worn thin with everyone. Heritage is an A Book because they pay their clients quickly....period. They aren't your personal ATM machine and they are eager to pay you free of charge to leave. Do us all a favor and take them up on it.

An A book is a book where everyone has the same limits, doesn't kick out or limit players and deals fair lines.

Funny how all you idiots that rush to defend Heritage are the ones who still can bet with no restrictions, get free plays or are able to play in contests.

You don't like what I have to say about Heritage then don't read my threads.

[HedgeHog]

Even funnier that some idiots repeatedly complain about a Book but still play there. At least I know when to leave a Book that no longer wants my action.

[SBR Lou]

how can you only have a $500 side limit and a $250 Total limit on a Added game

Hiya Jmk,

Any chance you'd be willing to provide your account #? It seems you might be talking on behalf of someone else.

[relaaxx]

Those ratings are wrong

Here are the real ratings:

A+ Pinnacle, Greek
C Bookmaker, 5dimes
F- everyone else

like these ratings better than SBR's. don't get why everyone is complaining about someone complaining about a book. i'd be complaining too. why not, complaints seem valid enough for an 'A' book to me anyways. i'm limited at a couple places, threads come up about them, i mention it. everytime. want people to know either way, what i like and don't like about a particular sportsbook.

[durito]

An A book is a book where everyone has the same limits, doesn't kick out or limit players and deals fair lines.

Funny how all you idiots that rush to defend Heritage are the ones who still can bet with no restrictions, get free plays or are able to play in contests.

You don't like what I have to say about Heritage then don't read my threads.

so take greek off your list

[jmk2178]

Actually I spoke to the head manager there and they said they don't want my business anymore cause I badmouthed them on here and it wasn't called for. I am not even a big player not even a medium player, But all i know is more then 10 times i got a blinking red box that saids the line has changed and it was never in my favor. And they shouldn't have a limit or that low of a limit on a Added game. THey said there limits are up to par to all the books in the industry I am gonna say that is a lie. I am not talking for another players this is my experience if there gonna kick me out because i said something on a message board then I don't care I just wanna warn people before they do the same thing to them. like he said they have thousand of customers and if i am going to keep bashing them which i don't think I did then they don't need my business, if there worrying about 2 people talking about what their doing when they have thousands of customers like they said then there shouldn't be worried about just 2 people

Hiya Jmk, Any chance you'd be willing to provide your account #? It seems you might be talking on behalf of someone else.

[Emily_Haines]

Even funnier that some idiots repeatedly complain about a Book but still play there. At least I know when to leave a Book that no longer wants my action.

There is a reason you can still play at Heritage. They made it pretty clear they're not interested in keeping winners around. Just tell me how you plan on beating them? You think you're going to get lucky on NFL long term? They love guys like you!!!! You're probably even one of those guys that alerts them when they have a line errors.

[Emily_Haines]

Heaven forbid that a book that holds all our cash and makes us take 100% of the risk actually take on a little risk themselves. They get +110 or better on almost every bet yet are so greedy that they kick out the 1-2% that actually win so they can have a stable of 100% losers.

It's no different then me buying into a poker game and getting to pick 2 players I want to leave the table. They want the best of both worlds and whats amazing is there are so many people that think this is perfectly fine.

[cloverfield]

Happy Holidays Emily!

I'm a winning player (don't play steam) and Heritage loves me and keeps me around. Happy Holidays to you too Heritage and keep up being one of the best books for U.S. players...

[Emily_Haines]

I'm a winning player

Never seen so many winning players here at SBR. You would think with all the winners the standard would be -115 or -120.

[tatommack]

My only problem with them is no team total on halfs and quarters and late lines everything else is okay I guess.