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    Quote Originally Posted by John Dough View Post
    I often wonder the same thing... right after I wonder why I bother posting here so much.

    Actually, we both already know the answer... to your question at least.
    I wasn't really complaining. If you read my response again with an open mind you will see that.

    But as a customer, I expect to be told the truth. I've checked in a couple of times and am just told, 'check next day.'

    Part of being in ANY business is meeting your own claims. If you claim 3-5 days, and it is significantly past that, you need to reward your customer with something, at the very least a very detailed explanation. And reasonably, a free play or a free payout. They charge pretty ridiculous fees for A*C*H's, so if they are severely delayed based on their 3-5 business day time frame, shouldn't those payouts be free?

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    And it is just a matter of expectation. I don't even remember what an A*C*H costs, I think it was 80 bucks? I expect that if I'm charged 80 bucks for something, that it should at least be as described. You know it doesn't cost them $80 to send out a batch of A*C*H's, but it'd be fine if they were meeting the 3-5 day time frame, because buyer beware, that is what I purchased. A 3-5 day A*C*H*.

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    Guys- I know everyone has seen my post about 5dimes since I've been a member. I ordered a check on 10/17/11 which Wells Fargo, Regions, BkofAma will not cash or deposit. I just got off the phone with accounts dept. manager and she said for everyones check that is not being cashed or bounced they are doing stop payments that can take up to 3 weeks! I also requested an A,C,H on 10/17/11 that still has not arrived in my account. After letting the manager know how pissed I was she started to give me more explainiations (excuses). She says that they are having alot of issues, seems like alot of financial ones. I was told to wait until 11/3/11 and then call back to see if the funds have been returned.

    I'm starting to feel like the money was never sent. Ive been told for the last week, everyday by C.S. that the money would hit my account that night! We are all just being lied to by 5dimes pure and simple.

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    Just to be clear, my comment wasn't directed at any specific poster.

    Priskilla, nothing wrong with anything you said in a perfect world or a vacuum, but that's not the reality of the current environment. Also, the relationship between books and 3rd party processors is not as close as it seems you believe it is. When there are issues, it truly can take the book a little while to find out what's going on with the processor and then find a solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdog1986 View Post
    She says that they are having alot of issues, seems like alot of financial ones.
    They seem like processor issues to me, not financial if by financial you meant the stability of 5Dimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Dough View Post
    They seem like processor issues to me, not financial if by financial you meant the stability of 5Dimes.
    Correct John, everyone knows 5dimes is putting money into these processors accounts to send out A,C,H and checks. The money obviously is not being put into the accounts. 5dimes is giving everyone the run around. Tony Williams is acting like he doesnt even know what is going on with his processors! lol bull shit he paid that processor to work under 5dimes..

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdog1986 View Post
    Correct John, everyone knows 5dimes is putting money into these processors accounts to send out A,C,H and checks. The money obviously is not being put into the accounts. 5dimes is giving everyone the run around. Tony Williams is acting like he doesnt even know what is going on with his processors! lol bull shit he paid that processor to work under 5dimes..
    Everyone knows 5Dimes is putting money into accounts? You know this for a fact? My guess is that ALL the books have been getting killed the last 3 weeks and ALL the books have lost heavily recently. Outside of the Ravens upset loss; tons of the most heavily bet favorites have been winning and covering the past 3 weeks including most of the Sunday and Monday night games. No surprise there are slow payout complaints. It also won't be a surprise when more upsets like the Jags-Ravens game begins happening and the books begin to win huge. To me it is a concern when great books like 5Dimes begin to have payout complaints

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Dough View Post
    They seem like processor issues to me, not financial if by financial you meant the stability of 5Dimes.
    I am actually a little worried about their financial stability... college favorites are covering at an unreal rate, and the customer service rep even said they are getting a lot more payout requests than normal.

    My guess is that 5dimes is not liquid enough to cover all of these and is using a stall tactic. It is unfortunate if that is true.

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    Here is the basic problem that all off shore books have, other than the regulatory problems with the DOJ. Say I run the casino at Caesars Palace. My casino has a sports book, and just about every other type of gaming imagineable. The sports book takes a hit, like it has for the past several weeks. All I have to do is tighten some slots and raise the minimum plays at some of the tables and I can pretty much make up for my sports book losses. Off shore books do not have this option. It is nearly impossible for them to make up lost revenues if they take a major hit, so they have to resort to stall tactics when paying out in hope of recovering some of their losses before they actually have to pay out the winners. If they stall you for 14 days, that is 14 days of action they have to try and recoupe their losses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by priskilla22 View Post
    I am actually a little worried about their financial stability... college favorites are covering at an unreal rate, and the customer service rep even said they are getting a lot more payout requests than normal.

    My guess is that 5dimes is not liquid enough to cover all of these and is using a stall tactic. It is unfortunate if that is true.
    Believe what you want, I'm not here to convince you otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Dough View Post
    Believe what you want, I'm not here to convince you otherwise.

    But Johnny...5Dimes hasn't won enough money to "cover" these past few weeks of college football and NFL.

    I mean come on Johnny, every single gambler out there has won these past 3 weeks and are taking enough money out of these online books to bankrupt them.

    Johnny, Tony over there at 5dimes has gone broke and is keeping all of our money for the next couple weeks, because he can't afford to pay us, because apparently the Players are the winners overall, not the books. Everyone knows that, gambling is one of the easiest things to do, I don't know why all these clowns have day jobs/ go to school.

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    Just received an email from 5 dimes ( I never once went to chat to question them about the payment not being received)

    Dear Customer,

    Please be aware that *************** payouts that were processed on October 17th and October 18th had suffered a delay due to inconveniences reported by the processors and were not sent out until October 24th

    They have confirmed that the funds were in fact sent out. If your funds were not received by Monday October 31st feel free to contact us after 5:00 pm EST, we値l be happy to provide further assistance.

    Please accept our deepest apologies for this delay on your payout.

    5Dimes Group Management


    So guys go ahead and create more threads tomorrow and keep on complaining, but there is your answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ngates815 View Post
    But Johnny...5Dimes hasn't won enough money to "cover" these past few weeks of college football and NFL.

    I mean come on Johnny, every single gambler out there has won these past 3 weeks and are taking enough money out of these online books to bankrupt them.

    Johnny, Tony over there at 5dimes has gone broke and is keeping all of our money for the next couple weeks, because he can't afford to pay us, because apparently the Players are the winners overall, not the books. Everyone knows that, gambling is one of the easiest things to do, I don't know why all these clowns have day jobs/ go to school.
    Depending on how liquid and efficiently 5dimes keeps their assets, even a small hit could cause a delay in processing.

    I'm not sure why you choose to be a douchebag in 99.9% of your posts on this board, but congrats on the decision.

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    Everything gonna be ok carrie?


    Everyone in this thread deserves to get ragged on for the way they are acting as if this is the first time ANY FUKKIN BOOK has ever had a processor problem.

    Like I said, I was awaiting a payout as well...You didn't see me bitching and moaning, because I have been there before, and I tried explaining it, and everyone wanted to keep bitching.

    Congrats on cashing out, enjoy the money........

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    Quote Originally Posted by ngates815 View Post
    Everything gonna be ok carrie?


    Everyone in this thread deserves to get ragged on for the way they are acting as if this is the first time ANY FUKKIN BOOK has ever had a processor problem.

    Like I said, I was awaiting a payout as well...You didn't see me bitching and moaning, because I have been there before, and I tried explaining it, and everyone wanted to keep bitching.

    Congrats on cashing out, enjoy the money........
    I actually like douchebags. Jay Cutler is my favorite football player for his douchebaggery to the media. But even then, you should only be a douchebag 50% of the time. Your 99.9% is pushing it. Just something to consider.

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    5Dimes mgt confirmed a few payouts had to be resubmitted by their processor. As a result of the delay, they'll be offering each effected player the next withdrawal through this method free of charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by priskilla22 View Post
    I actually like douchebags. Jay Cutler is my favorite football player for his douchebaggery to the media. But even then, you should only be a douchebag 50% of the time. Your 99.9% is pushing it. Just something to consider.

    Yes, I'm gonna take advice from a guy that keeps talking about being a lawyer/going to law school...Who works for the man...


    Keep up the good work kid...Sooner or later you'll get there. Reach for the stars.


    I don't come on here touting myself non stop...I speak the TRUTH 98% of the time, unless of course it's about myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Lou View Post
    5Dimes mgt confirmed a few payouts had to be resubmitted by their processor. As a result of the delay, they'll be offering each effected player the next withdrawal through this method free of charge.
    Lou 5Crimes told me this would only be the case if I do not receive the money by Monday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Lou View Post
    5Dimes mgt confirmed a few payouts had to be resubmitted by their processor. As a result of the delay, they'll be offering each effected player the next withdrawal through this method free of charge.
    Thanks for passing along the info Lou (and I'm not even waiting on a payout).

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    Quote Originally Posted by priskilla22 View Post
    Re: ngates815 -

    "I'm not sure why you choose to be a douchebag in 99.9% of your posts on this board, but congrats on the decision."
    That plus he's admitted he lied in one of the threads to support his position.

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    I thought yours had already arrived? quit lying and get off 5dimes rooster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ngates815 View Post
    Make some more threads about the situation.

    Obviously I don't like waiting 2 weeks, but then again for some of us, this money isn't gonna put us out on the streets, it's just some extra spending money, so as long as it doesn't take 1 month to get here, it isn't gonna bother me a ton.

    Sorry for your unfortunate situation. Go tell Tony how unacceptable this is, that the processor is down, and had to wait a week. Get pissy with him.


    On a side note, my money just hit my bank account, you should check yours again. Your welcome, for letting you know, so you can calm the fukk down.
    It just hit your bank? Then why did you post the email 5dimes sent you, explaining you wont recieve the funds till monday? quit lying. you're just a 5dime rooster rider.

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    Friday-NO money in my account. Big surprise. I know, I know, I have to wait until MOnday now. And on MOnday I will have to wait til Friday again. I get it. No Money was sent on 10/24-absolute bullsh!t. Someone here would have gotten it yesterday. Just another stall tactic or this Processor is lying to 5dimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewolf View Post
    Friday-NO money in my account. Big surprise. I know, I know, I have to wait until MOnday now. And on MOnday I will have to wait til Friday again. I get it. No Money was sent on 10/24-absolute bullsh!t. Someone here would have gotten it yesterday. Just another stall tactic or this Processor is lying to 5dimes.
    Just thought I would add something funny here. I requested an A*CH payout last Monday. Still not in my account on Friday.

    I requested a w*ire THIS wednesday and it is already in my account.

    I guess w*ires are the way to go if A*CH's are going to take 3 weeks.

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    What kills me is that you guys are going thru all of this crap to get paid what is rightly owed you. You go out of your way to make life difficult. You pay ridiculous fees to do something illegal, when you can do it legally to begin with. You guys will just never learn, will you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by priskilla22 View Post
    Just thought I would add something funny here. I requested an A*CH payout last Monday. Still not in my account on Friday.

    I requested a w*ire THIS wednesday and it is already in my account.

    I guess w*ires are the way to go if A*CH's are going to take 3 weeks.
    Different methods involve different processors, issues, etc. Clearly they are having issues with one method but not the other *right now*. This will almost certainly not always be the case.

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    still have not received anything

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    Hey guys,


    Check out the new thread I just made. Its an update for all checks that are bouncing, not cashable, A,C,H problems, etc..

    5dimes is giving us the run around but not anymore..I bitched until they let me speak to a accounting dept. maanger (so she said she was)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigdaddyQH View Post
    What kills me is that you guys are going thru all of this crap to get paid what is rightly owed you. You go out of your way to make life difficult. You pay ridiculous fees to do something illegal, when you can do it legally to begin with. You guys will just never learn, will you?
    How do we do it legally? Fly to vegas every day?

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    Spoke to 5dimes again today since I never got my money. They said expect it to be back in my 5dimes account by Tuesday.

    Which is EXACTLY what I told everyone what would happen a week ago. They never sent anything out on 10/24 as the message indicated they emailed us. The plan was to get us to the 10th day and credit out 5dimes account.

    Good news is, they said they will let me withdrawl in a couple P2Ps for Free. So I am cool with this. If someone happened to get their 10/17 a-c-h, please let me know, but if you didn't by now, don't hold your breath for next week. It's not happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewolf View Post
    Spoke to 5dimes again today since I never got my money. They said expect it to be back in my 5dimes account by Tuesday.

    Which is EXACTLY what I told everyone what would happen a week ago. They never sent anything out on 10/24 as the message indicated they emailed us. The plan was to get us to the 10th day and credit out 5dimes account.

    Good news is, they said they will let me withdrawl in a couple P2Ps for Free. So I am cool with this. If someone happened to get their 10/17 a-c-h, please let me know, but if you didn't by now, don't hold your breath for next week. It's not happening.

    why not do it in one? max west union is $2500?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big 12 Expert View Post
    why not do it in one? max west union is $2500?
    I didn't realize that..Thought it was $950. Haven't done a P2P with them in a few months. Been doing ACHs.

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    Everyone,

    I have been lied to so much by 5dimes about my check and A,C,H, that I even said last week that the file was never sent. I dont know if I can even trust 5dimes on a p2p! Can a SBR PRO comment on this?

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    All im saying is i've been paid over 30k by them in the last 6 weeks. I'm just hoping that the checks i've deposited in the last few weeks don't bounce. I think i would know by now. As far as my $2300 ***************, i hope it hits today. And if it doesn't i hope i don't have to jump through hoops to get that back into my account so i can pull it with a couple p2p's. Other than that, i've got 90% of my money out and i'm going local after this. It's scary that a reputable book like this is having issues. I'm done with online books for a while. I'll check the landscape in a few months after the NFL is done, which i think is whats causing the major issues being the volume of withdrawals.

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    jmillionz - Just tried to send you a pm - your pm's are disabled.

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