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    mighty maron
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    Heritage Bait and switch: Problems with 2011 football season kickoff bonus

    I see this in my member area on my heritage account

    HERITAGE SPORTS FOOTBALL SEASON KICKOFF BONUS

    Start the football season with your right foot! In addition to the many perks we have on offer, Heritage Sports has extended an incredible football season kick-off special.

    Make your first deposit with Heritage and we'll match it with a 100% free play.

    This isn't the end of an era, it's the start of a new one!

    100% MATCH FREE PLAY

    MAXIMUM $5,000 BONUS

    8X ROLLOVER REQUIRED


    So this is a peach of a deal to try them out. I arrange for a 750 deposit via book to book transfer. I asked in Heritage live chat before this specifically. They said yes.




    I go to live chat this morning to claim it. Alex offers me a 30 percent reload bonus. I go HUH Ive never deposited at Heritage before. He yammers on about the greek and betjam. He never addresses me on point. In the end he suggests I call in. I talk to manager..he says I get no bonus at all on book to book. I told him specifically I asked in live chat yesterday about bonuses on book to book transfers..they said yes. I ask him to check live chat logs..he says its not in there. I end the call. I recall and ask for chat logs...they now offer me the 30 percent reload freeplay. I tell him not good enough I will persue it elsewhere.

    I am aware that not all sites will do bonuses on book to book. I asked before hand and was told yes..(now whether rep was wrong in saying so is a different story). I would not have tried this site without it as they do not have poker but the 100 percent is too good to pass up I thought.

    [z] hi
    [Alex] Thank you for contacting Heritage Sports, how may I help you today?
    [z] HI
    [z] I deposited 750 yesterday
    [z] and I did not receive this as my first deposit bonus
    [z] http://membersa.heritagesports.com/k...s_lifetime.asp
    [Alex] Just a moment please.
    [z] sure
    [Alex] I can give you 30% reload bonus with a 3x rollover for the $750 deposit.
    [z] WAIT

    [z] Ive never deposited
    [z] I deposited because of this
    [z] http://membersa.heritagesports.com/k...s_lifetime.asp
    [Alex] I can't open the link. What do you need? You said you made a $750 deposit and there is a $750 transfer from 5dimes.
    [z] yes I asked in live chat here yesterday if transfers qualify for bonuses and live chat said yes
    [z] HERITAGE SPORTS FOOTBALL SEASON KICKOFF BONUS

    Start the football season with your right foot! In addition to the many perks we have on offer, Heritage Sports has extended an incredible football season kick-off special.

    Make your first deposit with Heritage and we'll match it with a 100% free play.

    This isn't the end of an era, it's the start of a new one!

    100% MATCH FREE PLAY

    MAXIMUM $5,000 BONUS

    8X ROLLOVER REQUIRED
    [z] is what the link opens up to
    [z] Please check my live chat support logs to verify
    [Alex] I can offer you a 30% reload bonus but I'm afraid you don't qualify for the lifetime losses promo, your account only has $18 as 10% of your losses so that would be your cap.
    [Alex]
    What we are offering is 100% freeplay back on your deposit. You can take advantage of this up to 10% of your lifetime losses at the Greek or Bet Jamaica, that is what will set your cap or limit on how much we will match your deposit with freeplay. That amount must be matched by a deposit from you and has a 8X rollover. The maximum amount on the bonus is $5000.


    [z] I know that I deposited 750 yesterday
    [z] first deposit here
    [Alex] So do you want the 30% bonus?
    [Alex] That's what I can offer you.
    [z] ???
    [z] the heritage season football season kickoff bonus
    [z] make your first deposit with heritage and well match it witha 100 percent free play
    [Alex] You don't qualify for that promotion I'm afraid as I explained above.
    [z] Ive never deposited at heritage
    [Alex] 7:11:28 AM [Alex] I can offer you a 30% reload bonus but I'm afraid you don't qualify for the lifetime losses promo, your account only has $18 as 10% of your losses so that would be your cap.
    7:11:44 AM [Alex]
    What we are offering is 100% freeplay back on your deposit. You can take advantage of this up to 10% of your lifetime losses at the Greek or Bet Jamaica, that is what will set your cap or limit on how much we will match your deposit with freeplay. That amount must be matched by a deposit from you and has a 8X rollover. The maximum amount on the bonus is $5000.


    [z] ALEX
    [z] I never deposited at heritage til yesterday
    [z] I have zero in my account...I lost the 750 I deposited yesterday so I dont know where you get 18 dollars from
    [Alex] The $18 is 10% of your lifetime losses, that is what sets the cap on the lifetime losses promotion. $18 freeplay is the most you can get from that promotion. Instead of that I can offer you a 30% freeplay.
    [z] Alex
    [z] lI see this on my screen
    [z] HERITAGE SPORTS FOOTBALL SEASON KICKOFF BONUS

    Start the football season with your right foot! In addition to the many perks we have on offer, Heritage Sports has extended an incredible football season kick-off special.

    Make your first deposit with Heritage and we'll match it with a 100% free play.

    This isn't the end of an era, it's the start of a new one!

    100% MATCH FREE PLAY

    MAXIMUM $5,000 BONUS

    8X ROLLOVER REQUIRED
    [z] Now 1. My first deposit was yesterday for 750
    [z] 2. I see it in my members area under my account
    [z] so why dont I qualify
    [Alex] You don't qualify because you can only take advantage of this promotion up to 10% of your lifetime losses at the Greek or Bet Jamaica, that is what will set your cap or limit on how much we will match your deposit with freeplay. In your case that limit is $18. Instead of that promotion we can offer a 30% reload on that same deposit.
    [z] IT doesnt say anything about that...I deposited because I saw this
    [z] Never mentions anything about former greek customers.
    [z] It wasy deposit with Heritage
    [z] says
    [z] This was a mistake depositing here....enjoy my 750...I blow a lot more...I play a lot of casino...I am not going to fight you on this...I just wont frequent here anymore
    [z] so either
    [z] 1. credit the 100 percent bonus
    [z] 2. transfer me to a manager
    z] or 3. Wish me a good day
    [zzzzz] your choice on this
    [Alex] I'm afraid there are no suppervisors available on the chat right now. I'm sure they will be happy to help you if you wish to call in. Unfortunately I cannot make that exception and grant you that bonus, they are the only ones that could do this. Feel free to contact them here:
    1-800-555-8800


    [Alex]
    You're welcome and have a great day.


    [210106] Its not an exception its your offer on your screen
    [210106] I will call
    [210106] bye
    [210106] you may disconnect from chat I have to cut and paste

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    Was there a T&C attached to the offer?I've had this shit happen to me before not with Heritage.If there was no fine print attached,they owe you what they offered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBENZ View Post
    Was there a T&C attached to the offer?I've had this shit happen to me before not with Heritage.If there was no fine print attached,they owe you what they offered.
    This is what I saw on my screen. I cut out my account number and balances in the pic.

    Last edited by mighty maron; 09-20-11 at 10:52 AM.

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    Most books dont do bonuses on b2b but if Heritage verified the offer before hand and you didnt see Ts and Cs, Im guessing they will make it right... Possibly honoring the offer or giving you a free payout. We'll check with Heritage.

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    The offer was in my account. No disclaimers, conditions, or asteriks involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Dozer View Post
    Most books dont do bonuses on b2b but if Heritage verified the offer before hand and you didnt see Ts and Cs, Im guessing they will make it right... Possibly honoring the offer or giving you a free payout. We'll check with Heritage.
    They put in the $225.00 freeplay from what Alex quoted and made it sound like they were granting a favor. This was instantly done once I asked for the chat logs from the last two days.

    Like I said I would not have deposited on a Sportsbook site without poker without this type of deal. I checked beforehand in live chat. I looked on http://membersb.heritagesports.com/b...onus_rules.asp
    and http://membersb.heritagesports.com/b...king_rules.asp

    Nowhere does it address it clearly. It does give the standard management reserves the right to change anything clause.

    I am not happy with nor do I accept the 225.00 freeplay. it was not what was clearly offered. I dont see any logic in alexs conversation.

    Oh well...lesson learned...

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    Bait and switch is a little strong.

    The 100% is for losers from last season. They will offer a matchplay @ 100% equal to any losses from last season...if you played last year, lost a $1k, your eligible for a match of a deposit up to 1k..lose $400, then its $400 for $400 deposit...ect

    You are down only $18, so that is what you qualified for. Are you disputing this loss figure ?

    Before running to the forum, why not try to work with the book directly, calling and asking to s/w a spv (not just going to chat and talking to whomever answers). Many on here will verify Heritage will make it right if they screwed up...what I am seeing though is you saw a 100% free play banner, assumed you were eligible and deposited with that assumption.

    If I'm incorrect, my apologies of course.

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    do you not see the 10% back on lifetime losses?

    another poster made a thread on here awhile back and copy and pasted everything but the important stuff.

    maybe someone can find the thread

    it cleary reads 10% back on lifetime losses.

    like i said before i wish the greek never sent you players to the heritage

    just ******* up a good book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djefferis View Post
    Bait and switch is a little strong.

    The 100% is for losers from last season. They will offer a matchplay @ 100% equal to any losses from last season...if you played last year, lost a $1k, your eligible for a match of a deposit up to 1k..lose $400, then its $400 for $400 deposit...ect

    You are down only $18, so that is what you qualified for. Are you disputing this loss figure ?

    Before running to the forum, why not try to work with the book directly, calling and asking to s/w a spv (not just going to chat and talking to whomever answers). Many on here will verify Heritage will make it right if they screwed up...what I am seeing though is you saw a 100% free play banner, assumed you were eligible and deposited with that assumption.

    If I'm incorrect, my apologies of course.
    I thought that the offer was the 100 percent freeplay on first deposit AND 10 percent lossback program for future losses like the program 5dimes has.

    Im not disputing the amount of 18 dollars down at the greek over the years.

    I did live chat twice, called twice, and talked to supervisors on this. The supervisor said I get nothing. I call back and ask for chat logs and they instantly put $225.00 free play in account.

    I clicked on the banner in the member area and the window I posted came up.

    Rereading it again for the nth time, The thing that I dont get is that how can you have 10 percent losses in the past and never have deposited. It said make your first deposit. I had never deposited there..I thought it was an offer to greek players to get them to deposit for the first time there

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    do you not see the 10% back on lifetime losses?

    another poster made a thread on here awhile back and copy and pasted everything but the important stuff.

    maybe someone can find the thread

    it cleary reads 10% back on lifetime losses.

    like i said before i wish the greek never sent you players to the heritage

    just ******* up a good book.

    Look at the pic I posted in thread please. How can you have 10 percent back on lifetime losses and never deposited at Heritage. I thought it was an offer to former greek players to try Heritage

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    MM,quick question.Did you have funds moved there from Greek/Jam?

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    it was a offer to former players to try heritage

    10% of losses at the greek.

    is this your first time getting a bonus?

    i doubt it is

    better to confirm the bonus before you deposit.

    i have the feeling that you knew what you were doing.

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    offer wasnt clear to me either
    I had them clarify a while ago and it's losses from the GREEK or BETJAMAICA.

    they dont mention either site in the promo, but that's where the 10% in lifetime losses comes from

    and you do not have the choice of taking a smaller amount than the 10% losses. you either have to take the 10% number in full, or nothing. If you had $1,000 coming back to you due to lifetime losses, you can't deposit only $500 and get $500 matched.. it has to be the full $1,000

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    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbook...-question.html

    another poster just copying and pasting what sounds good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBENZ View Post
    MM,quick question.Did you have funds moved there from Greek/Jam?
    no both balances were at zero when greek family left us market

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy View Post
    it was a offer to former players to try heritage

    10% of losses at the greek.

    is this your first time getting a bonus?

    i doubt it is

    better to confirm the bonus before you deposit.

    i have the feeling that you knew what you were doing.
    nowhere does it mention the greek
    No where does it mention it in the past.

    I thought it was a program like 5dimes lossback program they would enroll you with.

    I know what I thought....I may be stupid...I may not have come to the right conclusion but I KNOW what I thought.

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    Well I have to say that heritage does address issues very quickly. I had someone call me. This person was very professional and polite. Their has been an outcome that has been reached.

    Thank you for the quickness that both Heritage and SBR displayed in this matter.

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    I was a bit confused by this offer too. I went on live chat and had it fully explained to me by Richard I think. 100% cash bonus I was very happy to accept. I'm sure he was thinking "Keith we would love to give a generous bonus to a big loser like you."

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