[SBR_John]

AB:

According to BigBet, and I've read elsewhere too, you're making good with the old Apex clients. So obviously there is some direct connection to that former stiff joint. While I think it's great you're correcting a past wrong, why aren't you owning up to any involvement there?

BigBet:

Did you have to complete a RO on what is essentially your own money? Have you requested any withdrawals from AB to date?


Thanks in advance to both, HH

It's getting hard to get a straight answer to even softball questions. When I do a google search AK's site comes up first with you guys ranked 1 as his top sportsbook. Here is his rating;
Website: http://www.americasbookie.com/

Bonus: 100%

Rating: A+

http://www.rdgcorp.com/all/ funny, maybe i'm blind in one eye and can't see out of the other but I do not see Americasbookie on this list. Did I over look it? Lot of Apex joints though.

[MBENZ]

Ain't that the biggest scammer in forum history?

Looks like old unibrow is in cahoots,look out below.

Bet33, Americasbookie, other legit books finally get upgrade at

[thebookie]

Hi HH

I have never denied any involvement to the former stiff joint as you put it. I was a 50% partner, and will take 50% of the blame, but not 100% of it.

The other partner is a newfew, of a well known sportbook owner, who operates a sportsbook today, but choose to run and hide while I took the heat.

I have worked with SBR, a few times over the past 6 years, regarding some old accounts, but we never saw eye to eye, on how they should be handled, but thanks to Justin, we were able to come to a solution.

Most of the accounts, I have paid over the past few year were accounts, that I had no knowlege of, as deposits were made after I left.

Over the past 6 years I have reached out to dozens of players, to recover thier balances, and many have active accounts with me today.

I think I have learned from the mistakes, of the past and have done a good job of not repeating them, as my track record of 6 years without a complaint is pretty good.


I cant remember the deal, I had with Big bet, but he can post it here if he likes, and I think, he also took a few payouts as well.

[thebookie]

Hi John,

You can see Americas Bookie, under sportsbooks
http://www.rdgcorp.com/sportsbooks/

AK, is an affiliate, I have also purchased, text links from him as well.

[Keith Richard]

redneckbookie.com

[thebookie]

Ya... I like that one as well ... LOL .. agents have some crazy requests for URLs

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[Monte]

AK, is an affiliate, I have also purchased, text links from him as well.

**** you in this case, as well

[SBR_John]

OK thanks.

[obamaismyuncle]

People use these shit books then cry when they don't get paid..stick with the top books-BM, 5dimes, betislands..**** the rest.

[MBENZ]

People use these shit books then cry when they don't get paid..stick with the top books-BM, 5dimes, betislands..**** the rest.

Agree with that but grouping BI with BM and 5 dimes is rediculous.They need to earn that status.

[Monte]

I don't get the Betislands thing anyway, isn't it the same grp as Jazz/ABC who are slow paying atm?

[HedgeHog]

I don't get the Betislands thing anyway, isn't it the same grp as Jazz/ABC who are slow paying atm?

Obviously you don't. Same software, different ownership altogether. Play at BI, pass with Jazz.

[Monte]

Then why is it listed under DPT like Jazz when you check the sbr ratings by company page, someone care to explain.

[bigboydan]

I don't get the Betislands thing anyway, isn't it the same grp as Jazz/ABC who are slow paying atm?

Their not under the Jazz umbrella they are just using their facilities to run their operations sir. I had to clarification from Mr.Jon from BetIslands (SBR Rated B-) on this matter myself because I too at first thought they were owned and operated by the DTP family of books.

[magic3man]

cisco play at betislands

Betislands? now these are some low rent losers. They encourage you to send as much as you can **/** yet they will only give you back $975 a week. Yeah thats fair.
They say they will send you a check, yet they dont send it to the following friday so you wont get it for 2 weeks. a fuggin waste of time.

[HedgeHog]

Betislands? now these are some low rent losers. They encourage you to send as much as you can **/** yet they will only give you back $975 a week. Yeah thats fair.
They say they will send you a check, yet they dont send it to the following friday so you wont get it for 2 weeks. a fuggin waste of time.

Seriously? That $975 comes same day--and free once per month. Where do you play that's better?

[HedgeHog]

Then why is it listed under DPT like Jazz when you check the sbr ratings by company page, someone care to explain.

Why is BetUSA a B- Book and Sportsbook.com is D-?. Same software, but one is much better. Bet at BetIslands and BetUSA and stop worrying.

[bigboydan]

Why is BetUSA a B- Book and Sportsbook.com is D-?. Same software, but one is much better. Bet at BetIslands and BetUSA and stop worrying.

How we got sidetrack in this thread is mind-numbing however, you know how some threads get twisted around here.

Anyways, If memory serves me correctly BetUSA (SBR Rated B-) is independently owned and operated and just uses the Jazette platform to service it's players. It's pretty much the same way with BetIslands (SBR Rated B-) using the Jazz facilities. Both these establishments have sound financial backgrounds otherwise they wouldn't be rated as they currently are sir.

[HedgeHog]

How we got sidetrack in this thread is mind-numbing however, you know how some threads get twisted around here.

Anyways, If memory serves me correctly BetUSA (SBR Rated B-) is independently owned and operated and just uses the Jazette platform to service it's players. It's pretty much the same way with BetIslands (SBR Rated B-) using the Jazz facilities. Both these establishments have sound financial backgrounds otherwise they wouldn't be rated as they currently are sir.

Sorry for any part I played in sidetracking this AB thread, I just couldn't let BI and Jazz be treated as one and the same--I have money in both and know first hand each's payout ability/inability.

As far as AB, I think they may be worth trying on a small scale, especially given their efforts to right past wrongs. Their 100% FP offer, up to $500, is enticing.

[bigboydan]

Sorry for any part I played in sidetracking this AB thread, I just couldn't let BI and Jazz be treated as one and the same--I have money in both and know first hand each's payout ability/inability.

As far as AB, I think they may be worth trying on a small scale, especially given their efforts to right past wrongs. Their 100% FP offer, up to $500, is enticing.

No worries sir

If you do feel the risk vs. reward factor is worthy of a shot then by all means I say go for it. All I ask is that if you do please share your experiences with us all because, I am curious how they're really treating their clients nowadays.

[vitalyo]

As far as AB, I think they may be worth trying on a small scale, especially given their efforts to right past wrongs. Their 100% FP offer, up to $500, is enticing.

I would have to agree with HedgeHog AB deserves a bit more credit .I read the whole trend , the guy is pretty much straight up . I am gonna give them a try .

Question for the thebookie .

What are the withdrawal fees ?

Person to Person

Bank Draft / Cashier Checks

Cheers GL.

[thebookie]

Vitalyo

What are the withdrawal fees ?

Person to Person : The fees p2p are whatever, the 2p2 company charges use.. A $900 p2p, costs $50

Bank Draft / Cashier Checks : 2 options here, regular ground, DHL/FEDEX, rate is $50 / USPS ( registered ) is free, as it take a few extra days to reach you.

[bigboydan]

Vitalyo

What are the withdrawal fees ?

Person to Person : The fees p2p are whatever, the 2p2 company charges use.. A $900 p2p, costs $50

Bank Draft / Cashier Checks : 2 options here, regular ground, DHL/FEDEX, rate is $50 / USPS ( registered ) is free, as it take a few extra days to reach you.

Any book-to-book transfer options in place by any chance. If so who would they be with sir?

[HedgeHog]

Finally completed my rollover at A.B. and requested a high 3-figure p2p, which I received in 2 days. Decent small Book with great CS.

[Antonio curry]

Well i just want to say americas bookie is bout the best around i Hit this past week and Got my money right on time. Much love to americas bookie.

[looneytunes]

Well i just want to say americas bookie is bout the best around i Hit this past week and Got my money right on time. Much love to americas bookie.

Nice 1st post. While I have you, tell that POS Patrick to quit calling me. Nothing there that interest me

[BooBoo1965]

Nice 1st post. While I have you, tell that POS Patrick to quit calling me. Nothing there that interest me

My experience at Americasbookie was good so far. Requested pay out and same day got the money (almost 5 hours). They used to call me alot too, due to my wify, I asked not to be called and now it is only me who calls in. I am sure if you asked them, they will stop calling you too.

[looneytunes]

My experience at Americasbookie was good so far. Requested pay out and same day got the money (almost 5 hours). They used to call me alot too, due to my wify, I asked not to be called and now it is only me who calls in. I am sure if you asked them, they will stop calling you too.

Looks like the whole company signed up as posters- no thanks

[Legions36]

Looks like the whole company signed up as posters- no thanks

Maybe that guy is just happy with them. I only have good things to say about them. They have some nice bonuses too. They pay fast to. I have dealt with Patrick the guy u call a POS for calling u but to be honest he seems like a really nice guy from dealing with him.

[bostonboss]

lets not forget SBR is just as big of a scammer as Americas bookie...(bet islands fiasco)

[Redondo]

AB and 1V have treated players like gold for years now. That being said this first time posters vouching for them is lame AF. Patrick is my account rep, I once took a 150% bonus and completed roll and would have no doubt I would have got my 5K in a timely manner if I was not a greedy MF trying to take them for 50K. I think the most comical thing is when guys say they are a mickey mouse shop, like c'mon dude get real you aren't a dime bettor fool? Who the hell is bigboydan anyway?

[Jnas]

Customer Service is great. they post lines quickly offer great bonuses and pay very fast. I bet 99% of people that deposit with them end up liking them.

[BooBoo1965]

People use these shit books then cry when they don't get paid..stick with the top books-BM, 5dimes, betislands..**** the rest.

Listen to the man, BetIslands..... They still owe me $1250.

[looneytunes]

askth.book.. not generating much revenue lately? When can we expect the 200% bonus?

[Redondo]

askth.book.. not generating much revenue lately? When can we expect the 200% bonus?

I understand some things can't be erased but I don't understand how years go by with nothing but happy customers and that doesn't oyster for anything.