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    if there was a bot being used wouldnt the software company exposed this fact

    they know the difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    Their investigation is not over yet.........


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    Good stuff there, Justin. Very informative.

    .....and I dig your chest hair. I sport it myself! Very in right now.

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    Justin, I have a question. EZstreet and Shilheim have attempted to make a big deal out of the fact that cory1111 hit 3 royals in 8,000 hands played (although it is clearly not such a big deal if you actually understand the math correctly). In the video you point out that he kept playing after the 3rd royal and went on to lose $12K from his peek balance. Do you know if this 8K hand figure they are throwing around includes all of the hands he played, or if they are once again trying to cloud the issue with misleading claims?

    In other words, did he hit the 3rd royal at about his eight thousandth hand, and they are ignoring the hands which came afterward? Or did he play 8K hands in total?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    Their investigation is not over yet.........
    is there anyone on earth you would not sell out too?

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    Im anxious to see how this ends.

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    Fish come on - Wil's investigation was over. Then when he saw that 90% of people disagreed with him, he decided to keep looking. Now he'll come back with some compromise.

    Give me a break. This was outright theft and Wil sided with his advertiser.

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    Good job TNX for the video !!!

    GL.

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    This should = F- status for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    Is there proof he did this charge back? I didn't find any.

    A lot of claims were made. I only considered those that were proven. In most instances, no proof whatsoever was offered.
    A phone call to Northbet would likely resolve this matter. Lou handled the Northbet complaint and said a $450 deposit was actually a doctored $50 deposit. If true, this alone should negate the majority of his big win with this Book. If he also charged back his deposits after SBR helped him collect, then the entire amount of his winnings is fraudulent. Again, Northbet would be best able to verify or refute this claim. Seems to me this would be an opportunity to right a wrong and return some of Cory's winnings to a Book he cheated.

    Of course this is all moot if/when Wilheim finds for EZ Street.
    Last edited by HedgeHog; 03-30-11 at 07:08 AM.

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    Great info and video.

    I was planning on throwing EZ $300 before i read all this.

    They were bombarding me with emails and cold calls with these great bonuses and now i see why....lose and all is good....win something decent.....we will find a way to fukkk ya.

    Thx Justin and SBR for saving me what could have been a headache.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robzilla View Post
    This should = F- status for them
    why? betfair casino stole a lot more,they are A book/exchange here

    Justin7 in his video mentions heroes casino and betsuperior which bankrupt ,what about betfair(Justin7 did video recently about betfair robbery) which successfully operates and is one of the biggest exchanges/bookies in the world?
    Last edited by vercer; 03-30-11 at 07:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KGambler View Post
    Justin, I have a question. EZstreet and Shilheim have attempted to make a big deal out of the fact that cory1111 hit 3 royals in 8,000 hands played (although it is clearly not such a big deal if you actually understand the math correctly). In the video you point out that he kept playing after the 3rd royal and went on to lose $12K from his peek balance. Do you know if this 8K hand figure they are throwing around includes all of the hands he played, or if they are once again trying to cloud the issue with misleading claims?

    In other words, did he hit the 3rd royal at about his eight thousandth hand, and they are ignoring the hands which came afterward? Or did he play 8K hands in total?
    The 8k figure excludes all the sessions that he didn't hit a royal. There were at least 11 of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    A phone call to Northbet would likely resolve this matter. Lou handled the Northbet complaint and said a $450 deposit was actually a doctored $50 deposit. If true, this alone should negate the majority of his big win with this Book. If he also charged back his deposits after SBR helped him collect, then the entire amount of his winnings is fraudulent. Again, Northbet would be best able to verify or refute this claim. Seems to me this would be an opportunity to right a wrong and return some of Cory's winnings to a Book he cheated.

    Of course this is all moot if/when Wilheim finds for EZ Street.
    Who said he charged back his deposits after a win? I read the emails in the dispute, and I don't recall seeing that.

    Cory may not be the most honest guy, but there has been a ton of shit said about him that has no factual basis. Much of it was made up by "spin doctors".

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    Quote Originally Posted by vercer View Post
    why? betfair casino stole a lot more,they are A book/exchange here

    Justin7 in his video mentions heroes casino and betsuperior which bankrupt ,what about betfair(Justin7 did video recently about betfair robbery) which successfully operates and is one of the biggest exchanges/bookies in the world?
    They are an example of a corrupt casino. They are still operating, so they didn't demonstrate my persuasive example

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    Excellent presentation Justin, well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    Who said he charged back his deposits after a win? I read the emails in the dispute, and I don't recall seeing that.

    Cory may not be the most honest guy, but there has been a ton of shit said about him that has no factual basis. Much of it was made up by "spin doctors".
    Haha..Alex Powers and EZMarvin = Spin Doctors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    Who said he charged back his deposits after a win? I read the emails in the dispute, and I don't recall seeing that.

    Cory may not be the most honest guy, but there has been a ton of shit said about him that has no factual basis. Much of it was made up by "spin doctors".
    Below in bold are statements made by Sharpcat. It appeared in the main EZ thread (#501). You're right in that I don't know if it is an accurate description of what happened in the Northbet case. Perhaps Lou can elaborate.

    Actually if you've been following the story you would know that 5 months ago Cory1111 filed a complaint with SBR that Northbet closed his account and refused to pay his $15,000 balance, Lou recently confirmed that he arbitrated in the case and that Cory1111 was eventually paid and once paid immediately did a ********** on his deposit. Lou has no relation with Easystreet and has no reason to lie about this.

    SBR poster C.S. has stated in the past that he works for an unnamed sportsbook he recently implied that Cory1111 had charged back $5K and opened numerous accounts under his name and others at the book he is working with.

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    Great job again Justin!!!

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    There is no way these scammers have the money to pay Cory. Anybody that continues to post up there is just asking to be the ones to fill out the next "sbr" complaint form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Below in bold are statements made by Sharpcat. It appeared in the main EZ thread (#501). You're right in that I don't know if it is an accurate description of what happened in the Northbet case. Perhaps Lou can elaborate. Actually if you've been following the story you would know that 5 months ago Cory1111 filed a complaint with SBR that Northbet closed his account and refused to pay his $15,000 balance, Lou recently confirmed that he arbitrated in the case and that Cory1111 was eventually paid and once paid immediately did a ********** on his deposit. Lou has no relation with Easystreet and has no reason to lie about this. SBR poster C.S. has stated in the past that he works for an unnamed sportsbook he recently implied that Cory1111 had charged back $5K and opened numerous accounts under his name and others at the book he is working with.
    Exactly why hardly any books still accept CC deposits

    Great report Justin

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    It wasn't a CC **********. I think this is what he most likely tried (and he succeeded in doing) it was most likely sending in a smaller amount like $45 by M G and telling the book he sent in $450. They gave him the deposit fees of $11 to make it $461. (Basically taking a shot, if it loses he gets the $45 back as it is uncollectable. If he wins, he blames it on the processor as being wrong and alters the receipt if he has to. EZ is still wrong for depositing the money before it was actually picked up, but other books still do that (especially late at night).
    Quote Originally Posted by Cory1111 View Post
    I am currently with nortbet.com. They currently owe me 15000 dollars and shut my account down and told me they wont pay me another dime. Can anyone help?
    Quote Originally Posted by Lous View Post
    Northbet confirmed that the player's account is closed, but disputes having stated that the player would not be paid. They've stated that he has been paid 7 different P2P transactions for a total of $4,500 this month, and that a wire for $5,000 was sent this week. Right now, player and sportsbook have differing stories leading up to the account closure... but both agree that $4,500 was paid recently. We'll follow along to ensure his remaining balance is paid.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lou
    Since you addressed Northbet, I can confirm from working the complaint personally that his entire $15,000+ balance was ultimately paid and his account closed. 1. Northbet accused him of opening his account with a false cash transaction. He claimed to have sent $450, there was a processor error with the transaction, and a copy of a receipt was sent by Cory which was allegedly truly for $50 but altered to appear like $450. 2. Cory's winnings were generated from Video Poker play. His account was disabled and investigated after hitting two Royal Flushes in an alleged 3 week time-frame. No data was provided to SBR on the amount of hands played or speed, because NorthBet admitted not having any evidence that his actual casino play was fraudulent.
    Someone should just verify the control number and see how much was really deposited. Someone should check with the other books as well to see if he used the same same technique there also.
    Last edited by PoweRay; 03-30-11 at 10:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Below in bold are statements made by Sharpcat. It appeared in the main EZ thread (#501). You're right in that I don't know if it is an accurate description of what happened in the Northbet case. Perhaps Lou can elaborate.

    Actually if you've been following the story you would know that 5 months ago Cory1111 filed a complaint with SBR that Northbet closed his account and refused to pay his $15,000 balance, Lou recently confirmed that he arbitrated in the case and that Cory1111 was eventually paid and once paid immediately did a ********** on his deposit. Lou has no relation with Easystreet and has no reason to lie about this.

    SBR poster C.S. has stated in the past that he works for an unnamed sportsbook he recently implied that Cory1111 had charged back $5K and opened numerous accounts under his name and others at the book he is working with.

    Where did Lou confirm that? I read what Lou wrote and he didn't say anything at all about a **********. Did I miss a post, or is Sharpcat just confused (as usual)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    The 8k figure excludes all the sessions that he didn't hit a royal. There were at least 11 of them.
    Wow.

    Both easystreet and their paid shill Wilheim have really gone out of their way to mislead anyone interested in this case.

    Off the top of my head, here's a list of outright lies ezstreet has told, all of which were parrotted by their chosen "mediator" Shilheim:

    1. cory1111 played 18 hands a minute for many hours straight
    2. cory1111 hit his royals at such a high rate that it is indicative of possible cheating
    3. cory1111 hit 3 royals in 8,000 hands
    4. cory1111 did not pause after hitting royals

    These are all proven lies. Ezstreet's own release of "evidence" has exposed these blatant fabrications. Just imagine what exculpatory evidence they are holding back.

    Meanwhile, some really gullible posters here continue to accept as fact anything that Marvin or Shilheim have alleged against cory1111. Why would you believe these liars in the absence of any proof? For example, Shilheim is thowing around some claim where cory1111 has committed 31 cases of fraud against 25 different books. Where is he getting these numbers? Has he spoken with 25 different books about this case, and received documentation that it was the same player? Does he have access to an industry database of scam artists? We don't know. He doesn't say. But it stands to reason that he is simply parrotting the lies of his client easystreet, without asking for any actual proof whatsoever, because that is what he has been doing all along during his "investigation".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    The 8k figure excludes all the sessions that he didn't hit a royal. There were at least 11 of them.
    Fishhead, are you paying attention?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KGambler View Post
    Wow.

    Both easystreet and their paid shill Wilheim have really gone out of their way to mislead anyone interested in this case.

    Off the top of my head, here's a list of outright lies ezstreet has told, all of which were parrotted by their chosen "mediator" Shilheim:

    1. cory1111 played 18 hands a minute for many hours straight
    2. cory1111 hit his royals at such a high rate that it is indicative of possible cheating
    3. cory1111 hit 3 royals in 8,000 hands
    4. cory1111 did not pause after hitting royals

    These are all proven lies. Ezstreet's own release of "evidence" has exposed these blatant fabrications. Just imagine what exculpatory evidence they are holding back.

    Meanwhile, some really gullible posters here continue to accept as fact anything that Marvin or Shilheim have alleged against cory1111. Why would you believe these liars in the absence of any proof? For example, Shilheim is thowing around some claim where cory1111 has committed 31 cases of fraud against 25 different books. Where is he getting these numbers? Has he spoken with 25 different books about this case, and received documentation that it was the same player? Does he have access to an industry database of scam artists? We don't know. He doesn't say. But it stands to reason that he is simply parrotting the lies of his client easystreet, without asking for any actual proof whatsoever, because that is what he has been doing all along during his "investigation".
    I would love to hear thr names of these "so called" books that Cory alegedly scammed.

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    Just remembered another lie...

    5. cory1111 played perfect strategy

    Now they admit they only looked at a handful of hands.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KGambler View Post
    Fishhead, are you paying attention?

    KG, for the record, I'm well in favor of the player being paid at this time.............only waiting until Wil wraps up his investigation to make my own final decision.

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    OK, you are still not paying attention.

    There is no "investigation". The proper term would be "whitewash".

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    Another story Shilheim keeps repeating... That cory1111 was asked by EZstreet how he got the third royal, only two hours afterward, and he incorrectly stated that he was dealt it. What is his proof that this happened? Is he once again relying on the word of proven liar Marvin? Did he ask to listen to the tape? Why does he keep repeating this story, and why does the story keep evolving? Why is he, as a supposed "mediator", repeating all kinds of unverified attacks on the player? Why is he angry at cory for "lying to him" but he hasn't even noticed that ezstreet has made a total fool of him, causing him to repeat all kinds of statistical claims which are now 100% proven to be untrue?

    Why are people still gullible enough to swallow all of Shilheim's lies hook, line and sinker? Why are people over at therx such rubes?

    Compare Shilheim's clumsy attempts at a whitewash with Justin's careful and considered investigation. Justin wanted verifiable proof... actual evidence to support ezstreets ever evolving claims. Shilheim just gladly parrots their lies and attempts at character assassinations. Not only does he pretend that a lie detector test is reliable, not only does he pretend that cory1111 should blindly put his fate in the hands of a Costan Rican polygraph "expert" hired by ezstreet (!), he also pretends that cory111 would have nothing to lose by taking the test! It's obvious they are setting him up. Shilheim, professional shill, wants to announce to all of his overly credulous followers that cory1111 "failed" a "lie detector test". Just how clueless is the average therx reader? Is it a bunch of sharpcats over there or something?

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    Great work with this Justin. You are a great asset to this site and all the players that post on these forums. Hopefully Cory can still get paid, but even if not, you will have at least saved some other players from getting cheated by this outfit. If you need my help with anything else either with this dispute or one in the future just let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    Who said he charged back his deposits after a win? I read the emails in the dispute, and I don't recall seeing that.

    Cory may not be the most honest guy, but there has been a ton of shit said about him that has no factual basis. Much of it was made up by "spin doctors".
    What does this really mean

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    Quote Originally Posted by KGambler View Post
    It's obvious they are setting him up. Shilheim, professional shill, wants to announce to all of his overly credulous followers that cory1111 "failed" a "lie detector test". Just how clueless is the average therx reader? Is it a bunch of sharpcats over there or something?
    I think you are right. I did have a read over there yesterday and it appears that they are not as clueless as you may think. I think this Wilhelm guy and EZ believes that therx readers are clueless though. Very poorly constructed case with so many inaccuracies/lies.

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    i've just got to laugh at the idea of someone flying down to costa rica and taking a lie detector test. unreal.

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