[lakerboy]

Just wondering if anyone has bet on the Spanish to win it all at +377. The odds are not very good that Spain wins it all and i feel that the books will cash in big on this prop. Lets face it the world cup is a pretty exclusive trophy and outside of France and England (both at home) the trophy hasnt been won by any other nation that is an outsider. Brazil/Italy/Germany/Argentina/Uruguay(back in the day) and of course France and England are the only winners up to date in this tourney. I wouldnt back spain. Another interesting fact is that outside of the original 1930 world cup Germany or Brazil has finished at least 3rd in every single tourney. Germany to make the semis is +222 and brazil is +111.

[ClimbSomeRocks]

Spain will get nocked out in the semi's or maybe even the quarter finals this year...

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

Spain won't make it to the Finals. There chances of making it to the Semis is likely and QF is highly likely.

[mlb]

I just don't see them winning .. I took the Brazillans at +400 .. oh well

[KingJIM]

Probably not a good idea to take heavy favorites in World Cup. Spain lost last summer to USA so I won't be placing any thing on them for that reason alone.

[BetfairUser]

I was considering laying spain for the tournament but there's no point yet. They should plough into the second round and then into the quarters, and then it's time to lay

[VLR100]

Germany to make the semis at +222 is a good bet, they always do well. Never count out the Germans. Who knows, they could win the whole thing.

[mlb]

I was considering laying spain for the tournament but there's no point yet. They should plough into the second round and then into the quarters, and then it's time to lay

that's when most have them losing .. interesting

[Karayilan9]

Spain have the toughest potential route, could possibly play Portugal in the 2nd round, Italy in the Q's, Argentina in the Semi's and also have less rest time due to them playing their group games last. If they get past all this and beat possibly Brazil in the final, well then they will go down as one of the greatest teams in history, actually close to being hands down the best team ever in world football.

[Xptboy]

Italy out in QF
England out in SF
Germany out in QF
France out at or before 16.

Can't really predict who will win the WC yet, but I know it won't be any of the teams above.

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

I wouldn't rule the Germans out if the QF. If Argentina and Germany both win they group and win their round of 16 match they will see each other in the QF and my money would definitely be on the Germany

[xGrr]

beside italy never a team has won the euro and wc back to back, i am still rooting for spain i think they are the most "complete" team overall, who knows maybe it's there year.

[Goat Milk]

I got them around the +450's a while ago. Great value imo i have them winning it.

LB you want to put a side wager that Germany doesn't make the semi's I will give you +200.

[SoV]

Spain are ****ing boss and have a great chance of winning it and are rightly the favourites.

[antifoil]

i am on both spain and brazil to win it all

[ufuque]

SPain and Argentina..

[Pauulzcappin]

I got them around the +450's a while ago. Great value imo i have them winning it.

LB you want to put a side wager that Germany doesn't make the semi's I will give you +200.

[SoV]

How?

[Pauulzcappin]

Spain has no chance.

A south-american is winning it, either Brazil or ARgentina.

[SoV]

Spain has no chance.

A south-american is winning it, either Brazil or ARgentina.

Why don't Spain have a chance?

Better chance than either of Brazil or Argentina on paper.

[bolekblues]

Brazil price to make semis is for a reason - they most likely play the netherlands in the quarters and i don't like brazil chances there. As for Spain, the price is not a good one concerning the number of possible winners in a tournament, but ther's value for them making semis (about even money).

[BetfairUser]

They have a chance but I really don't think they'll win it. They won the euro because they were easily the best team in europe and didn't have to overcome any unusual tactics. When they come to play the south american teams I really think they'll get beat, but we'll see - that's the fun bit

[Mirar Baseball]

Spain has no chance.

A south-american is winning it, either Brazil or ARgentina.

Spain has the most players playing in the best club competition (Primera). How a team with the best players competing against the best for a living can have no chance?

[Mirar Baseball]

They have a chance but I really don't think they'll win it. They won the euro because they were easily the best team in europe and didn't have to overcome any unusual tactics. When they come to play the south american teams I really think they'll get beat, but we'll see - that's the fun bit

Yeah, like Euro/World champion double hasn't happened in recent history.

[BetfairUser]

Spain has the most players playing in the best club competition (Primera). How a team with the best players competing against the best for a living can have no chance?

Sorry but premier league is better than primera

[D3 Mighty Ducks]

I wouldn't say Spain has NO CHANCE, they definitely have a the team to make noise in the 2nd round. I'll put them in the Semis but no further then that.

[lakerboy]

I got them around the +450's a while ago. Great value imo i have them winning it.

LB you want to put a side wager that Germany doesn't make the semi's I will give you +200.

Sure i will take those odds for 50 points. Based on history the odds are worth it. Never discount the Germans.

[phenomenon]

Lakerboy and Kara, do u think spain has potential to win 2 big cup in the row ?

[Karayilan9]

Brazil price to make semis is for a reason - they most likely play the netherlands in the quarters and i don't like brazil chances there. As for Spain, the price is not a good one concerning the number of possible winners in a tournament, but ther's value for them making semis (about even money).

Out of the big teams Brazil would most like to play Holland, suits them best.

[JOHON8]

Spain is a bit overrated for the price, they are favorites but Brazil and Argentina weren't in the Euro Cup when Spain won it.

My future bet is on Brazil.

[lakerboy]

Lakerboy and Kara, do u think spain has potential to win 2 big cup in the row ?

They have the potential but like Kara mentioned before they have a difficult route. Lets see how they perform against a well organised Swiss side.

[phenomenon]

Argentina ? , I don t like them today, especially their defence, 1 month ago someone made argument with me about Argentina's defence, gutierrez and samuel made big mistakes today, and gave good chance even Nigeria, while watching Argentian match, I thought if it was not nigeria, Argentina vs Netherland match, it wouldn t be Argentina's victory ...

[lakerboy]

Its a long tourney for the big sides and you cant expect them to be on fire day 1. Argentina came out on fire last tourney and died out in the Germany match. There defence has issues but it takes time to gel.

[phenomenon]

They have the potential but like Kara mentioned before they have a difficult route. Lets see how they perform against a well organised Swiss side.

yeah, they may beat swiss, coz they know the culture of european football, but they may face difficulties with chile and even honduras, I am wondering whether alot of passes will work for them or not ...

[HCBoone]

Those odds aren't good at all but I clearly hold Spain as big favourites. If you compare them to England or Argentina you can see they have stability in defense with a great goalie and a good back four. The world cup is as you say very difficult to win but the best team usually wins and atm Spain is the best team. But let's see how it turns out. I expect much more from England and Brazil will go far. I don't think Argentina can reach the final with that slow back line and their pretty poor goalkeeper.
Spain would be my props bet if I would make one but I have seen better odds than them you've got.

Imagine Torres-Villa vs Demichelis-Samuel