[Tommy_de1st]

Hi guys
Ive got some idea and want to share it with you.
Soccer is a sport I have the best knowledge of and most of my bets are played on soccer.
A few years back getting bored with playing parlays that ended up losing I decided to find something to bet with bigger odds. I started to take a good look at draws.
Ask yourself, when you played parlay how many times did the draw ruin the whole thing?
Exactly ... almost everytime. At least that was my case.
Since then I searched through all league statistics emphasizing draw stats and I found out that in some leagues the draw are more likely to happen. This is obvious thing and you don`t have to be a soccer expert to notice that.
The main problem is to know which team is worth betting on.
I picked a few teams to start with and put the money on their draws. The idea was to wait another week and doubling the wager when particular team failed to draw. I was even successfull but never pulled the trigger wagering big amount of money.
I called this system Progression.
I was becoming more and more confident about that and at one time I had dozens of teams (roughly 100) in the system.
Deep inside I knew it was not it because there were frozen money week after week.

So together with my friend we looked up more at all available statistics including everything that could be important and took it into consideration.
The idea we came up with was to find set of teams (even from different leagues) that we can bet on during the same weekend (when most leagues are played).
That was couple of months ago and I had some other things in my life to take care of so I quit the subject. When I returned to betting I only found out that my friend developed special computer programme that helped picking up teams. At first he went public with that but now he is getting paid for his picks. That system is nothing but success.
And now I wanna share it with you all because I`ve got it for free (as a one of system creators of course ).

The System Description
System is based on 12 plays that are divided in two sets (2 x 6 teams) and will be played within 2 weekends - 6 plays each weekend.
There are 2 sets of 6 teams from different leagues that playing their games from Friday to Monday (not at the same time). We bet on draw of first team in the sequence. When this team fails to draw then we double up the wager (or multiply by 1.6-1.8 - that depends on the player bankroll) and bet on draw of the next team in a row. This will be repeated till next following team draws. I call it Wagering Level.
We have to be prepared for 12 Levels.
Very Urgent !!!
When one of the teams draws we stop betting the following team.
We won and would patiently wait for another sequel of plays next week.
Don`t be gready guys, that can be very disastrous.
In case all 6 teams don`t draw we will wait for the naxt weekend and start betting from Level 7.

be back

[Masu485]

a bit difficult to understand but does seem interesting. will you be posting the plays here each week?

[Josu]

So you pick 6 different teams that draw alot, and hope for at least one of these 6 teams draws their next upcoming game or the game after that? Isn't it hard to find 6 different teams who all start their game at different times over the course of two weekends?

New ideas are always interesting, do share.

[Smogs]

Hard to understand mate, but as i understand it, it is a chase system??

[Tommy_de1st]

Ok
Ill try to explain more understandingly

We`ve got 12 teams and we bet their draws
Level 1
bet 1 Unit on a draw of TEAM A. If the team A fail to draw then
Level 2
bet 2 Units on a draw of TEAM B. If the team B fail to draw then
Level 3
bet 3 Units on a draw of TEAM C
and we carry on untill one of the Teams draw up to Level 12 but I dont expect the system to go that long coz those Teams are specially selected

[Smogs]

Ok, i guess the question is, who are these teams?

[Tommy_de1st]

a bit difficult to understand but does seem interesting. will you be posting the plays here each week?

Yes I will but its a pitty all seasons are about to end

So you pick 6 different teams that draw alot, and hope for at least one of these 6 teams draws their next upcoming game or the game after that? Isn't it hard to find 6 different teams who all start their game at different times over the course of two weekends? New ideas are always interesting, do share.

Its not hard to find 6 different teams who all start their game at different times but its difficult to find 6 teams who are gong to draw their games

Hard to understand mate, but as i understand it, it is a chase system??

sort of chasing but once you trust the system you`ll love it
You need sort out your bankroll first and need to be prepared for 12 Levels

[LinWin]

Hard to understand mate, but as i understand it, it is a chase system??

Looks like it is. They are dangerous, could ruin you.

[Tommy_de1st]

Ok, i guess the question is, who are these teams?

I`ll post it tomorrow

[Tommy_de1st]

Looks like it is. They are dangerous, could ruin you.

They could but you have to be bankroll-wise.
I`ll tell you what?
Let`s treat that as a test

[theplagy]

Ask yourself, when you played parlay how many times did the draw ruin the whole thing?

There you go, a Humburg draw just ruined my parlay
Last time I played draw @ wolfburg and they fking won .

[theplagy]

with about +200-220 avg price it does make this a less dangerous chase. But still, a chase is a chase

[phenomenon]

Tommy, I hope everything will be good for you,
If you want my suggestion for draw,play france 2 and 1 league alot... also you may chose some teams of Turkish second league...

[Tommy_de1st]

Tommy, I hope everything will be good for you,
If you want my suggestion for draw,play france 2 and 1 league alot... also you may chose some teams of Turkish second league...

Thanks
I know,I know
as well as leagues: greek 1 and 2, russian, irish etc lots of them
but the hardest of all is to pick those drawable teams during one or two weeknds from differnet leagues

[phenomenon]

Thanks
I know,I know
as well as leagues: greek 1 and 2, russian, irish etc lots of them
but the hardest of all is to pick those drawable teams during one or two weeknds from differnet leagues

And also it is late for it I think...
last 3 4 5 weeks,and some teams which draw alot needs points and will try harder to win...
u should start it next season

[Tommy_de1st]

I know
i said its a pitty but lets give it a try though

[phenomenon]

GL then

[Tommy_de1st]

Lets start tonight:
Level 1: Velez Sarsfield - Tigre (Argentina) Friday
Level 2: Preston - Leicester (English Championship) Saturday
Level 3: Lok, Zagreb - Osijek (Croatia) Saturday
Level 4: Palermo - AC Milan (Italy) Saturday
Level 5: Atlas - Chiapas (Mexico) Saturday night
Level 6: Everton - Fulham (English Premierleague) Sunday


Sorry i won`t be around till next week cuz my network modem has broken down nad this fukks said that technician would be availavble on Tuesday
Im not playing these picks because of that but I promised to share with you and thats why im posting em
Im so angry coz im gonna miss lots of soccer, NBA and NHL plays ---- fuuuuuuuuuuukkk

[Smogs]

let's see how this goes then, if it shows promise it will be very interesting for next season

[bostonbruins]

Like someone said above, chase is chase ,why not blind pick draws and 2x up until it hits

[loyd]

you can do that with betfair, you can lay the draw at the start of the match and back it after 10 minutes, its a way to secure profits because the odds moved in ur favor after 10 minutes with no goals.

[nulldah]

very risky system, 12-level chasing system. if these 12 level fails, the system basically lose 78 units (this is only at each level, i increase one unit, not double or 1.6-1.8 like you described), so in other words, it needs ratio better than 78:1 in a season to be profitable.

Surely this is not likely to happen. If probability of draw is 0.33, the probability that you get 12 streak of draw-less game is 0.00818. this will become even smaller because the system choose certain matches.

still, it can happen. It will be better if the number of levels can be reduced, imo, for better risk management.

[Josu]

Lets start tonight:
Level 1: Velez Sarsfield - Tigre (Argentina) Friday 1-0
Level 2: Preston - Leicester (English Championship) Saturday 0-1
Level 3: Lok, Zagreb - Osijek (Croatia) Saturday 2-2
Level 4: Palermo - AC Milan (Italy) Saturday
Level 5: Atlas - Chiapas (Mexico) Saturday night
Level 6: Everton - Fulham (English Premierleague) Sunday

Good first weekend for you. Unlucky there in the first game too, Velez scoring in injury time. Keep the winning train going.

[loyd]

did you check your return on investment? it must be pretty low if u have to set asside 78 units incase of a miracle (no draw for the same team in 12 matches).

[Tommy_de1st]

Its a good start
Level 3 game won. Even if not Level 5 would do it.

Lets treat the system as a test and start next season

[Tommy_de1st]

Level 1: Velez Sarsfield - Tigre (Argentina) Friday 1-0
Level 2: Preston - Leicester (English Championship) Saturday 0-1
Level 3: Lok, Zagreb - Osijek (Croatia) Saturday 2-2
Level 4: Palermo - AC Milan (Italy) Saturday 3-1
Level 5: Atlas - Chiapas (Mexico) Saturday night 1-1
Level 6: Everton - Fulham (English Premierleague) Sunday pending

[samus82]

Interesting system but bare in mind at this stage in the season a lot of teams don't have much to play for. For example Everton vs Fulham. Fulham are likely to rest players for the Europa League whereas Everton need points to get into Europe. Whereas had this match been 10 games earlier Fulham would be a different story.

[monostereo]

r.e.a.l.l.y

[loyd]

he have to wait the whole season to see if the system works or not with a return on investment less than 3% he would make more profits puting his in an ING savings account

[brko]

here is my contribution - overview by league this season. maybe you have a chance with Swedish Superettan as it just began and concentrating on club Trollhattan as they had 2/2 (so far 2 draws out of 2 games) - but it's too early to have any conclusion right now. As well, that's the minor league which won't be offered everytime by your book. so...

[phenomenon]

where did u find this stats?

[Josu]

here is my contribution - overview by league this season. maybe you have a chance with Swedish Superettan as it just began and concentrating on club Trollhattan as they had 2/2 (so far 2 draws out of 2 games) - but it's too early to have any conclusion right now. As well, that's the minor league which won't be offered everytime by your book. so...

bet365 always offer Superettan, 5dimes does too I think.

[phenomenon]

ty so much

[brko]

where did u find this stats?

http://www.h2hstats.com

[brko]

it offers large variety of statistics and you can choose among 50+ world leagues, but concentrating in European soccer so no Chinese nor my favorite Singapore