1. 02-24-10 10:58 AM #1
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    The Official World Cup Futures Thread

    Betphoenix World Cup Futures as of 2/24/10

    Spain + 450
    Brazil + 500
    England + 600
    Argentina + 900
    Germany + 1200
    Italy + 1200
    Holland + 1400
    France + 1400
    Portugal + 2500
    Ivory Coast + 2500
    Chile + 5000
    Serbia + 6500
    Paraguay + 5000
    Ghana + 5000
    Australia + 12500
    Denmark + 10000
    Cameroon + 8000
    USA + 6600
    Mexico + 6000
    South Africa + 8000
    Uruguay + 9000
    Nigeria + 10000
    Greece + 12500
    Switzerland + 17500
    Japan + 20000
    Slovakia + 15000
    Slovenia + 17500
    South Korea + 25000
    Algeria + 20000
    Honduras + 20000
    North Korea + 75000
    New Zealand + 75000


    Where do you guys see value here?
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  2. 02-24-10 11:44 AM #2
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    Brazil +500 is tremendous value. European teams have never won a World Cup played outside of Europe, and Argentina are coached by Maradona.

    I'll play this one big I think.
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  3. 02-24-10 12:22 PM #3
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    Spain + 450
    Argentina + 900
    Serbia + 6500
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  4. 02-24-10 12:26 PM #4
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    i would wait until a month before kick off, you never know injuries from now till start date. Image england without rooney for example
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  5. 02-24-10 12:26 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gargamel View Post
    Brazil +500 is tremendous value. European teams have never won a World Cup played outside of Europe, and Argentina are coached by Maradona.

    I'll play this one big I think.

    They need to get rid of him.

    Brazil great value - Im liking the Netherlands as well.
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  6. 02-24-10 12:30 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark79 View Post
    Im liking the Netherlands as well.
    They'll start great and then invent a way to choke!
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  7. 02-24-10 12:43 PM #7
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    Have a small wager on Ivory Coast @51 (+5000)
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  8. 02-24-10 12:49 PM #8
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    Haha, just checked William Hill (placed my bet there yesterday). odds are 29 now. I think a certain Guus Hiddink might have something to do with that ^^
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  9. 03-23-10 04:31 PM #9
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    Ivory Coast odds might be heading back to 50 to 1.

    Sven is rumored to be taking over the job.
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  10. 03-23-10 04:34 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRLM8 View Post
    Ivory Coast odds might be heading back to 50 to 1.

    Sven is rumored to be taking over the job.
    There go Ivory Coasts' chances.
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  11. 03-23-10 04:45 PM #11
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    Uruguay + 9000
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  12. 03-23-10 04:51 PM #12
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    bottom line is this- any team that has never won the world cup before isnt worth a penny to bet on.
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  13. 03-23-10 04:56 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilforth View Post
    Spain + 450
    Argentina + 900
    Serbia + 6500
    Now that is just insane but surely possible...I don't know if our guys have the experience to go that far.

    I would gladly take Serbia to advance to the next stage though at +115.
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  14. 03-23-10 04:57 PM #14
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    i like mexico +6000 and germany + 1200
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  15. 03-23-10 05:00 PM #15
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    Mexico has zero chance as well. They are too short, plain and simple, give em some tall players and might have a shot.
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  16. 03-23-10 05:20 PM #16
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    england or spain ....
    why ?
    england - this generation : gerrard, terry, lampard, ferdinand, is closely coming to their 30s, or are already there....This is much their last chance to win a major trophy with their national team (and i think many ppl agree that the world cup is easier to win than the european championship). Plus, Rooney has a great 2010 so far.
    spain - probably the best team in the world, perfectly balanced. i cannot find a single weak player in their starting 11. Best midfielders of the world, not the best strikers but good enough and a safe defense, plus a gk that rarely does errors but rather keeps a clean sheet
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  17. 03-23-10 05:21 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by SRBI View Post
    Mexico has zero chance as well. .
    completely agree...I really dont believe that any of us will live to catch the day when a team outside Europe or South America will win the WC (altough if we think back to 2002, South Korea & the refs were very close)
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  18. 03-23-10 06:30 PM #18
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    Exactly mihaita
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  19. 03-23-10 06:39 PM #19
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    on bet365 Rooney to be englands top goal scorer is +138
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  20. 03-23-10 08:25 PM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by rfr3sh View Post
    on bet365 Rooney to be englands top goal scorer is +138
    damn... thats tasty imo
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  21. 03-23-10 08:27 PM #21
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    Can we get this stickied to the top of the soccer forum by mods? Then we don't need to keep scrolling down the page to find it
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  22. 03-23-10 09:11 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by mihaita666 View Post
    england or spain ....
    why ?
    england - this generation : gerrard, terry, lampard, ferdinand, is closely coming to their 30s, or are already there....This is much their last chance to win a major trophy with their national team (and i think many ppl agree that the world cup is easier to win than the european championship). Plus, Rooney has a great 2010 so far.
    spain - probably the best team in the world, perfectly balanced. i cannot find a single weak player in their starting 11. Best midfielders of the world, not the best strikers but good enough and a safe defense, plus a gk that rarely does errors but rather keeps a clean sheet
    As much as I hope England wins, really doubt their chances at the moment. Too many injuries at the back and other than Rooney, can you really say any other player is at the top of their game right now? Still think England is good enough to win the group (with the US to advance) but if things go accordingly, we'll face Brazil in the semis which would be tough. Right now, seeing a Brazil/Spain final.
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  23. 03-23-10 09:38 PM #23
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    OP asked where there is value

    To me, there is value in +6600 (USA) and +500 (Brazil)
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  24. 03-23-10 10:27 PM #24
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    Rooney- England top scorer
    Messi- Argentina top scorer
    David Villa- Spain top scorer
    Luis Fabiano- Brazil top scorer

    All three good bets for tournaments leading scorers too.
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  25. 03-23-10 10:42 PM #25
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    Anyone else watch Brazil in the confederations cup last summer like I did? They came back vs a solid US team 2-0 to win 3-2 in the final. They scored one of the best team made goals in the friendly games vs Ireland.

    Can we get a list or picture of what teams meet after qualifying? This way we can predict how far teams go...
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  26. 03-23-10 10:45 PM #26
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    if urugury can keep the diciplin in check they can be dark horses this year, also watching out for USA to make it quite far,
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurkzZ View Post
    if urugury can keep the diciplin in check they can be dark horses this year, also watching out for USA to make it quite far,
    Are you from Uruguay? :P

    Serbia are my dark horses for the tournament.

    If you really want a WC future bet, put money on Belgium winning the 2014 WC.
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  28. 03-23-10 10:52 PM #28
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    im from Turkey .....no in the world cup

    as for Serbia, strong in strong defence, seem to lack quality in attacking quaters, not sure about the strike force, and theres stonger midfields
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    Ghana
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  30. 03-23-10 11:00 PM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karayilan9 View Post
    Ghana
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    on a serious note, Ghana are the best of the African teams, they have a very slim chance, should pass a round or two, good organized team
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurkzZ View Post
    on a serious note, Ghana are the best of the African teams, they have a very slim chance, should pass a round or two, good organized team
    I think the African teams don't have as much quality as European and South American teams, yet.
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    i think only Egypt and Ghana are close to a level where they can compete,last world cup Ghana were unlucky not to pass Brazil, they have a very good squad, in there home continent they should have alot of support
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    The Black Stars will shine in Africa, nobody talks about Ghana, they are the most under the radar team. Ivory Coast, Nigeria and Cameroon take all the spotlight in Africa, none will make it past the first round except maybe Cameroon.

    Everybody laughs at Ghana but they are much better than people think.

    I like Uruguay aswell, Tabarez is doing a good job with the team, alot of talent there which is being well organized.
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  35. 03-23-10 11:29 PM #35
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    Value or not like i said any team that hasnt won the world cup before aint winning this time. Value is overrated. Why are Brazil +500?
    This is an exclusive club and only france made recent entry in 1998- cause they were at home. Nobody is allowed in the club that easily. Sure some no names may make noise but when push comes to shove its gonna be the same thing like usual- dont be surprised to see germany in the final.
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