[Kermit]

The defense really is..."George Floyd would have died if my client hadn't killed him first."

It's a kangaroo court folks.

Really is nothing to see here but a bunch of people that somehow think George Floyd is on trial here.

If Floyd and his friends were not taking part in illegal shit, the cops would have never been called in the first place. I'd say he and his drug dealer friends deserve part of the blame here as well. Especially if Panama Red was the one who supplied Floyd with the pills that may have led to his demise. Word is that he told the cops that Floyd was drifting into and out of consciousness prior to the police showing up.

[themike78]

The guy died of an overdose. Why the fuk is there even a trial and why the fuk do people give a shit about this guy?

[The Kraken]

Does it really matter though?

And more to the point, does him overdosing really matter?

Plenty of people overdose and survive.

The vast majority of them, I would assume, aren't handcuffed and don't have a knee pinning them face down on the street, limiting air supply, until they pass out, and them some, all while overdosing.

Does George Floyd's condition really matter when it's been established that Chauvin could have killed a healthy man with what he did and for how long he did it.

Do we even have to speculate what would have happened to a healthy man?

It very much so seems like this case is dragging on, being about George Floyd, rather than Chauvin for the mere purpose of showing the viewers that the court system is doing something about dumb ass cops.

If Chauvin walked, the country will burn. But that's no reason to convict him, the testimony and evidence takes care of that itself.

No it doesn’t matter, I was just more curious.

Anyone can have a severe heart blockage they don’t know about, all the more reason not to run around choking strangers.

The only reason the 90% blockage was found at autopsy was because he was strangled

[The Kraken]

If Floyd and his friends were not taking part in illegal shit, the cops would have never been called in the first place. I'd say he and his drug dealer friends deserve part of the blame here as well. Especially if Panama Red was the one who supplied Floyd with the pills that may have led to his demise. Word is that he told the cops that Floyd was drifting into and out of consciousness prior to the police showing up.

So in your mind the outcome is justified because Floyd did some illegal shit and the cops were called?

[themike78]

So in your mind the outcome is justified because Floyd did some illegal shit and the cops were called?

If he didn't act like an asshole around the cops he would be alive. It's not right for the cops to kill someone but you have to know how to act around them. 100 percent of these deaths would be avoided if the suspects didn't act like fools around the cops. It's just part of life.

[BuckyOne]

The defense will call their experts. Could get some more action.

So, Minneapolis already settled with millions to the Floyd family estate.

Couldn’t there be a bunch more of civil lawsuits by other people Chauvin arrested and abused or others that used the “Chauvin” technique that the MPD was negligent in allowing to happen?

[MinnesotaFats]

So you are saying that court evidence and testimony says there was never a knee on the neck?

You're saying that after rendering the resisting suspect unconscious that Chauvin then took efforts to insure recovery, like policy states?

You're saying there is doubt as to whether or not George Floyd died from lack of oxygen and that there is doubt that Chauvin was responsible for that.

Is that what you're saying?

Horrible defense here.

Chauvin should have pled out.

No matter what happened with George Floyd, George Floyd and his character and actions are largely irrelevent. Do you get that?

It's a trial for show and you are getting sucked in to everything but rality.

Embarrassing.

No, what I'm saying is law enforcement has the right to apprehend and put suspects into submission via acts that are approved by the City & the Force.

So, 1- we've already gotten testimony that the knee on the back submission is LEGAL and APPROVED. That, right there, removes Chauvin from any liability regarding the move if it is proven as a cause of death. The Chiefs testimony stated Chauvin applied the technique properly and it appears his knee is on his shoulders/ back. There was never any strangulation or use of hands.

And 2- Chauvin (or others) called the medics. This is the entire case right here...the defense is saying a normal man, not on drugs or relaxers AND stimulants (remember, GF took a fukkin speedball) in average health, would not have died with the technique used and the time allotted.

So 3- we get the medical facts....Floyd overdosed by legal definition on fentonyl, has 90% blockage in arteries, and had taken meth that day as well.

The question that goes to the jury is:

Would a reasonable officer be able to determine what GF took or that he had underlying heart conditions, prior to that submission?

GF was a 48??? Yr old big tall not obese dude, he looked healthy...and he dumped his pockets in the squad car prior to the submission, hence Chauvin could not have known that GF was potentially ODing

That's the reasonable doubt angle. And I think it's a really really good one and would result in an acquittal 9 out of 10 times. But this case is different, and jurors don't want their families attacked and homes burnt....it, frankly, might come down to the judge to issue some rulings if there's late motions or various objections, to force the State into a settlement on the M3 charge.

[Fidel_CashFlow]

But this case is different, and jurors don't want their families attacked and homes burnt....it, frankly, might come down to the judge to issue some rulings if there's late motions or various objections, to force the State into a settlement on the M3 charge.





Minnesota ends it with this above
Is what anyone with a brain is thinking
And also knows will happen

[Fidel_CashFlow]

See how terrified that Medical Examiner
was when he had to admit he told others
around him that he himself thought Floyd's
death should have been ruled a overdose

He was terrified to go against the woke culture

The angry nerds and ugly short
haired women at home
on their computers that finally give them power
writing on social media to CANCEL YOU .....
Sometimes the power that this cancel culture
has given them , they get on such a power trip
they type really really hard and loudly on their keyboards

Bloodlust

[KVB]

...So, 1- we've already gotten testimony that the knee on the back submission is LEGAL and APPROVED. That, right there, removes Chauvin from any liability regarding the move if it is proven as a cause of death. The Chiefs testimony stated Chauvin applied the technique properly and it appears his knee is on his shoulders/ back. There was never any strangulation or use of hands..

It's hard to read your nonsense.

This is not true on so many levels.

Do you know what the approved protocol is when guy you are restraining passes out?

I do, specifically for MPD.

And Chauvin did not follow it.

Really, it's a terrible defense.

So is trying to pin an OD on Floyd, even if true, it really isn't relevant. You can try all you want to make it relevant, it's what the defense tried to do.

Doesn't change the facts of what happened at the hands of Chauvin.

Strange you keep avoiding any mention of a neck or the time Chauvin was on it.

Do you know what the word stipulation means in a legal context?

When there really is no doubt as to what happened, it will be real easy to scapegoat the verdict on "they don't want a riot".

You've already done it to excuse a weak "case" of "reasonable doubt".

Unreal and shameful.

[Fidel_CashFlow]

The Trial of OJ Simpson




Not Guilty lmfao

There was Dancing In The Streets after
No burning buildings or cars or fires


Chauvin GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY

There was Dancing In The Streets after
No burning buildings or cars or fire

[KVB]

No, what I'm saying is law enforcement has the right to apprehend and put suspects into submission via acts that are approved by the City & the Force.

So, 1- we've already gotten testimony that the knee on the back submission is LEGAL and APPROVED. That, right there, removes Chauvin from any liability regarding the move if it is proven as a cause of death. The Chiefs testimony stated Chauvin applied the technique properly and it appears his knee is on his shoulders/ back. There was never any strangulation or use of hands.

And 2- Chauvin (or others) called the medics. This is the entire case right here...the defense is saying a normal man, not on drugs or relaxers AND stimulants (remember, GF took a fukkin speedball) in average health, would not have died with the technique used and the time allotted.

So 3- we get the medical facts....Floyd overdosed by legal definition on fentonyl, has 90% blockage in arteries, and had taken meth that day as well.

The question that goes to the jury is:

Would a reasonable officer be able to determine what GF took or that he had underlying heart conditions, prior to that submission?

GF was a 48??? Yr old big tall not obese dude, he looked healthy...and he dumped his pockets in the squad car prior to the submission, hence Chauvin could not have known that GF was potentially ODing

That's the reasonable doubt angle. And I think it's a really really good one and would result in an acquittal 9 out of 10 times. But this case is different, and jurors don't want their families attacked and homes burnt....it, frankly, might come down to the judge to issue some rulings if there's late motions or various objections, to force the State into a settlement on the M3 charge.

I have to be honest.

I thought the defense had a pretty weak case to begin with, but when you read this post it shows the case is really bad.

Kangaroo court with a clearly steered toward ending.

They probably had to steer it, could be a rodney king like jury.

lol

[Fidel_CashFlow]

Blah, meant cars on fire *

Chauvin sucks regardless
Past history before GF shows he's a dangerous
personality to give power like this to .

I won't be butthurt if he's found guilty .

Hard job they do though.
Here's how this cops life ended

He was so nice and polite to that guy with a
Big Friendly Rifle .... so nice that he didn't overreact
Hell let's go back to my cruiser and have a few laughs




Hard job they sign up for ehhh

[BOA12]

Blah, meant cars on fire *

Chauvin sucks regardless
Past history before GF shows he's a dangerous
personality to give power like this to .

I won't be butthurt if he's found guilty .

Hard job they do though.
Here's how this cops life ended

He was so nice and polite to that guy with a
Big Friendly Rifle .... so nice that he didn't overreact
Hell let's go back to my cruiser and have a few laughs




Hard job they sign up for ehhh

U ain't whistling Dixie. Reformers, need not apply. Laws are hard to change, that is the custom, in the Great Old USA. Thank goodness, 4 the good cops, or we'(e)d all B criminals, 4 that, has always been, the Elite Plan. Never defund the police, demand a refund, from law enforcement, the Elites Scam, MAN.

[HockeyRocks]

Some of Krakens top 15 are in full bloom here on this thread still trying to figure out away to keep there white piece of shit cop, Chauvin out of jail.. Good luck with that scumbags...You know who you are..

[BOA12]

Some of Krakens top 15 are in full bloom here on this thread still trying to figure out away to keep there white piece of shit cop, Chauvin out of jail.. Good luck with that scumbags...You know who you are..

Brothers don't hurt brother, those Mothers. This is 4, 19th hole, hates my bumper sticker English. trumptards19th, Elites BFF at SBR.

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

If Floyd and his friends were not taking part in illegal shit, the cops would have never been called in the first place. I'd say he and his drug dealer friends deserve part of the blame here as well.

this is silly and far too reductive to truly matter
can you blame them and floyd a little bit? sure
but it's an excuse and absolves the truly responsible party
it's like blaming a woman murdered by her husband for cheating on him.

[MinnesotaFats]

this is silly and far too reductive to truly matter
can you blame them and floyd a little bit? sure
but it's an excuse and absolves the truly responsible party
it's like blaming a woman murdered by her husband for cheating on him.

Ahh but there in comes the 'heat of the moment defense which is mitigating and that is manslaughter, not murder!

[Itsamazing777]

The cop didnt know he was going to die
Just another worthless piece of shit gone

[BuckyOne]

Well, the defense starts presenting their case tomorrow. Curious, how they are going to spin it.

[MinnesotaFats]

Well, the defense starts presenting their case tomorrow. Curious, how they are going to spin it.

Very simple

1- Floyd OD'd. They'll add medical evidence to bolster this and drug evidence

2- that the tactics & submission was legal and proven non lethal in past and no process has been taught to contradict it

3- the mob was rioting/ filming during the ordeal (why the medics couldn't get in) and thus caused hindered Chauvin in preventative measures (distraction)

That's 3 really good cases of reasonable doubt for murder

They will have difficulty w manslaughter thou because there's negligence here

[Fidel_CashFlow]

Very simple

1- Floyd OD'd. They'll add medical evidence to bolster this and drug evidence

2- that the tactics & submission was legal and proven non lethal in past and no process has been taught to contradict it

3- the mob was rioting/ filming during the ordeal (why the medics couldn't get in) and thus caused hindered Chauvin in preventative measures (distraction)

That's 3 really good cases of reasonable doubt for murder

They will have difficulty w manslaughter thou because there's negligence here

People with blinders on will say that’s a weak defense

and say that OJ Simpson was a strong defense and that’s why he got found not guilty

[wikkidinsane]

Very simple

1- Floyd OD'd. They'll add medical evidence to bolster this and drug evidence

2- that the tactics & submission was legal and proven non lethal in past and no process has been taught to contradict it

3- the mob was rioting/ filming during the ordeal (why the medics couldn't get in) and thus caused hindered Chauvin in preventative measures (distraction)

That's 3 really good cases of reasonable doubt for murder

They will have difficulty w manslaughter thou because there's negligence here

Those won't stand.

1. Prosecution already brought on numerous experts to say floyd was more tolerant to that level of fentanyl and wasn't showing signs of being sleepy, one of the main effects of that drug.

2.experts who give the training say they never teach knee to the neck


3. you can see about 8folks filming and on the side walk while floyd was being killed. one officer was able to keep them at a distance and not once did they break his line.


If the jury is unbiased this will be an open and shut case.

[Jayvegas420]

All i know is thank God some of you right wing racist bigots on this thread aren't on the jury...Many of you are trying to figure a way to get the cop off the hook with the dumbest misrepresentations...You know who you are, part of Krakens top 15...

Thank God they aren't on the jury? Thank God they aren't cops!

Thank God they are basement dwellers who only have our ears

[Jayvegas420]

Imagine having a month long trial & 10 page thread to judge a murder that EVERYONE watched

only in America

[The Kraken]

Jay believe half of what you hear and less of what you see... It’s a new world

[Mac4Lyfe]

Would be curious how many other times they kneeled on people’s necks.

They did it like it was just another day in the park.

How many other cops in Minneapolis have performed like this?

This police chief needs to go thru video files of arrests and fire a lot of cops. And then he is should be fired himself by the mayor for being an incompetent police chief and allowing this to happen on his watch.

Chauvin kneeled on the neck of at least 6 other people in the last few years. He improperly arrested a female and kneeled on her neck as she was gasping for air. She finally said to him, "go ahead and kill me, that's what you are doing", before he got off her.

[edawg]

Chauvin should have just keep covid vaccines in his back pocket then give the victims a jab while kneeling on their necks he would be considered a brave hero by MSM then.

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

People with blinders on will say that’s a weak defense

it's not?
best bet is to lean as heavily as possible on #1, muddy the waters as much as possible about the drugs in his system/OD'ing, etc.
but the bare bones facts of this one are going to make for a pretty easy cross for the prosecutors, regardless of the witnesses.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I have had countless friends hunted down like Coyotes to get served a DUI in this police state atmosphere. The police have managed to transform non violent crimes into violent crimes. It must be some type of alpha dog scenario dominating in the field and the rest of the cops go along with it and do not stand up for the common man.

It's all about the money. The system is created there to shake down common citizens over bullshit then have them paying into a corrupt system. The officers are put in bad positions because of the system, so they take the blame for corrupt higher ups.

[Mac4Lyfe]

MN police state doesn't mess around

I got pulled over memorial day 2015 on a freeway for not wearing my seat belt (not speeding or anything else) in a construction zone.

When the pig came to my window (w his bulletproof vest on) he's all tough looking for registration and license and insurance, etc.

I tell him we should get out of the construction zone because cars are zipping by us really close, he says I can't speak. Then as he's writing the ticket I see 2 jeeps go by, not a single kid w a seat belt on so I point it out to him. He says "ya, it's just not your day I guess"

To which I said "well, ok then you can go eat a dick you fukkin pig" yo which he pulled me out of the car, threw me on the ground, cuffed me, hauled me to Hennepin County jail and had my Escalade towed.

Funny thou, HC refused to book me for lack of an underlying charge.

But this is the shit you get w cops, they are all jerkoffs w no dikks and slutty wife's that cuck them

Los Angeles was like this in the 90s. LAPD were all corrupt and total assholes. Best to just stay under their radar because they were worse than the bad guys.

[WireWire]

the medical examiner today also stated the cause of death listed basically meant his heart and lung stopped and the drugs and floyds high blood pressure wanst the direct cause of death. Buried,

lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooo

[Mac4Lyfe]

Just wow.

So much for the theory that he was on drugs and overdosing.

Turns out that didn't even really have a basis for truth.


Dr. Daniel Isenschmid
Dr. Daniel Isenschmid, a forensic toxicology expert who did lab work for Floyd's case, testified on April 8 that Floyd's hospital blood and autopsy urine contained low levels of fentanyl and methamphetamine.

He said Floyd's blood sample had 11 nanograms of fentanyl per milliliter and 5.6 nanograms of norfentanyl per milliliter. He said the level of methamphetamine was "low" and consistent with a prescription dose.

He said those levels of fentanyl and methamphetamine are significantly lower than the average amount seen in blood samples of DUI suspects, and much lower than post-mortem cases for individuals who die from drug overdoses.
Berried.

All the Trump cult members keep saying that Floyd OD'd because they can't stand the truth.

[WireWire]

Officer is going to get off, that's why they already paid them $30 million dollars, to you know "soften the blow" The day that money hit there checking they were saying Floyd WHO?

[Mac4Lyfe]

If Floyd and his friends were not taking part in illegal shit, the cops would have never been called in the first place. I'd say he and his drug dealer friends deserve part of the blame here as well. Especially if Panama Red was the one who supplied Floyd with the pills that may have led to his demise. Word is that he told the cops that Floyd was drifting into and out of consciousness prior to the police showing up.

What illegal shit are you referring to? The alleged $20 bill that the cops never confiscated as evidence? You tell me how a good cop would roll up on Floyd and crew guns blaring without ANY proof? Someone calls 911 and they immediately assume Floyd and crew were guilty? Maybe they were guilty but that entire case would have been thrown out due to lack of evidence. Oh, I forgot, you showed us a picture of fake $20 and $1 bills. Who the fukk counterfeits $1 bills? And you saw Floyds fingerprints and DNA on the bills? Great investigative work you do froggie.