[cincinnatikid513]

very sad here gonig to be lots of deaths


https://apnews.com/article/building-...e3da742a6cb8dd

SURFSIDE, Florida - Video of condo building collapse. 51 people missing. pic.twitter.com/vhwjmwmqWr

— ShatteredWorldMedia 🌐 (@MediaShattered) June 24, 2021

[DiggityDaggityDo]

Holy shit

What caused it?

[cincinnatikid513]

Holy shit

What caused it?

not sure some researcher is saying condo was sinking for decades



https://nypost.com/2021/06/24/collap...es-researcher/

[cincinnatikid513]

dailymail always has great articles with vids and pics top notch


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...collapsed.html

[KVB]

First, early on, I read many injuries and 1 death. I was wondering how there could only be one death.

Later I read 1 death but something like 99 people missing.

That's a little more clear and makes a little more sense, as tragic as it is.

[cincinnatikid513]

First, early on, I read many injuries and 1 death. I was wondering how there could only be one death.

Later I read 1 death but something like 99 people missing.

That's a little more clear and makes a little more sense, as tragic as it is.

yah they don't know the exact total because some snow birds were not there but it's going to be bad bunch of dead bodies under all that rubble

[The Kraken]

Is that the Murrah building?

[cincinnatikid513]

Is that the Murrah building?

12-story Champlain Towers South

[DiggityDaggityDo]

The owner of that building is shitting bricks right now

[cincinnatikid513]

built in 1981

i'm sure there were many warning signs missed on this tragic event


The building had been about to undergo extensive repairs for rusted steel and damaged concrete, Kenneth S. Direktor, a lawyer involved in the project, said on Thursday. The repairs had been scheduled as part of a review and re-certification process for 40-year-old buildings

[MinnesotaFats]

Is this the same condo, in the news last week, that evicted everyone to do these repairs and the people wouldn't leave?

I wonder if this was inevitable given the owner (if it's the same) tried and warned everyone about it.

Miami has a very high water table and much of the construction from 70s thru late 80s was on land that couldn't support taller building and in a flood plane that wasn't properly assessed (the new plane goes 14' above sea level)

[cincinnatikid513]

Is this the same condo, in the news last week, that evicted everyone to do these repairs and the people wouldn't leave?

I wonder if this was inevitable given the owner (if it's the same) tried and warned everyone about it.

Miami has a very high water table and much of the construction from 70s thru late 80s was on land that couldn't support taller building and in a flood plane that wasn't properly assessed (the new plane goes 14' above sea level)

looks like different place, i'm sure we would of heard about it by now in news if it was same place, but who knows what kind of skeletons they will find with this building, i'm sure many warning signs were outthere

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/bus...251955788.html

[hehfest]

The owner of that building is shitting bricks right now

Shitting them.......he's got bricks being stuffed up his ass.

[cincinnatikid513]

The owner of that building is shitting bricks right now

if i was that owner i would disappear and get a couple people say he was there lost in the rubble

[Enkhbat]

It looks like the place was intentionally demolished or something, wow.

[HockeyRocks]

Is this the same condo, in the news last week, that evicted everyone to do these repairs and the people wouldn't leave?

I wonder if this was inevitable given the owner (if it's the same) tried and warned everyone about it.

Miami has a very high water table and much of the construction from 70s thru late 80s was on land that couldn't support taller building and in a flood plane that wasn't properly assessed (the new plane goes 14' above sea level)

Wrong again Fats, do the research, you would of known it was a different high-rise and not this one..

[The Kraken]

Is this the same condo, in the news last week, that evicted everyone to do these repairs and the people wouldn't leave?

I wonder if this was inevitable given the owner (if it's the same) tried and warned everyone about it.

Miami has a very high water table and much of the construction from 70s thru late 80s was on land that couldn't support taller building and in a flood plane that wasn't properly assessed (the new plane goes 14' above sea level)

Jesus fukking christ you're helpless

Just couldn't wait to blame the people in the building and side with the owner

Sorry but you're gonna have to wait until the next tragedy

[JAKEPEAVY21]

yah they don't know the exact total because some snow birds were not there but it's going to be bad bunch of dead bodies under all that rubble

Very sad and agree with you they are going to find a ton of dead bodies.

[capitalist pig]

There is no one owner it’s a condo building, however many condos there were is how many owners there are. The condo owners association will be on the hook if there was a structural flaw they knew about and didn’t get repaired. The association will have insurance by law on the building and when the lawsuits start they will just file bankruptcy. I’ve been on a condo board both in Fl and GA and it’s right up there with F rated books when it comes to honesty. I guarantee we will see some shady shit come out of this real quick

[BOA12]

not sure some researcher is saying condo was sinking for decades



https://nypost.com/2021/06/24/collap...es-researcher/

Sink Holes everywhere in Fla. Giant beach, built up.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

cinici, what's with these structures in Florida?

I remember a few years ago that "state of the art" bridge at a college(USF I think?) collapsed...

[cincinnatikid513]

cinici, what's with these structures in Florida?

I remember a few years ago that "state of the art" bridge at a college(USF I think?) collapsed...

yah i remember that, was blamed on design errors


i hate that florida always makes the news for the wrong reasons

[jim]

back in the day anyone buying florida real estate was buying swamp land.

[pavyracer]

Could be column at the lower level failed due to rebar corrosion. The salty moisture from the sea corrodes steel much faster than inland. It only takes one of the columns to fail for progressive collapse of the building frame.

[Kermit]

Residents from the area said they already knew what building collapsed when they had heard. People said the building was sinking since the 90's.

[BeatTheJerk]

My dad worked on that condo in the 80’s as a Electrician fun fact.

[cincinnatikid513]

i can't imagine what the smell is going to be like hot temp rotting bodies it would be awful being on the clean up crew

[pavyracer]

Residents from the area said they already knew what building collapsed when they had heard. People said the building was sinking since the 90's.

If a concrete framed building is sinking for years you will notice visible cracks in the walls, floors, doors jamming etc. A concrete framed building is rigid and not elastic like a steel framed building that can deform without visible cracks.

[FrozenMAN]

If a concrete framed building is sinking for years you will notice visible cracks in the walls, floors, doors jamming etc. A concrete framed building is rigid and not elastic like a steel framed building that can deform without visible cracks.

wow pavyracer talking like a structural engineer......thought only degens were on this site

I'm guessing the soil finally gave way and with it the foundation followed and down she went....maybe liquification?
I did read they were doing concrete repairs, what they entailed who knows, but I agree with the above....no way you wouldn't notice cracking would could lead to spalling or pop outs of legitimate chunks unless it was all underground

[Kermit]

If a concrete framed building is sinking for years you will notice visible cracks in the walls, floors, doors jamming etc. A concrete framed building is rigid and not elastic like a steel framed building that can deform without visible cracks.

So were these people lying?

[The Kraken]

wow pavyracer talking like a structural engineer......thought only degens were on this site

I'm guessing the soil finally gave way and with it the foundation followed and down she went....maybe liquification?
I did read they were doing concrete repairs, what they entailed who knows, but I agree with the above....no way you wouldn't notice cracking would could lead to spalling or pop outs of legitimate chunks unless it was all underground

I think Pavy is a LEED certified architect in Atlanta

Prolly knows a thing or two bout this kinda thing

[pavyracer]

So were these people lying?

I don't know if they are lying but a building doesn't collapse because of a settlement of 1/16" per year. When a building collapses like this is because of the loss of stength of column(s). The columns at the parking of this type of a building are spaced further apart and carry much more load than columns at upper floors that support the apartments so that the cars can park under the apartments and there is probably not any redundancy in case one column fails for the other columns to support the load. A concrete column when it fails is going to implode and lose all strength unlike a steel column that can buckle slowly and still be able to carry some weight.

[KVB]

My dad worked on that condo in the 80’s as a Electrician fun fact.

He didn't by any chance drill random holes up and down the structural supports, did he?

Asking for a friend.

[pavyracer]

https://apnews.com/article/fl-state-...2e593812ad3ada

This just came out.

[KVB]

https://apnews.com/article/fl-state-...2e593812ad3ada

This just came out.

...The ground-floor pool deck of the oceanfront condominium building that collapsed near Miami was resting on a concrete slab that had “major structural damage” and needed to be extensively repaired, according to a 2018 engineering report that also uncovered “abundant cracking and spalling” of concrete columns, beams and walls in the parking garage...

Oh boy.