1. #1
    Sanity Check
    A Rising Tide Lifts All Ships
    Sanity Check's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-30-13
    Posts: 10,972
    Betpoints: 12959

    Leaving Neverland Director Backtracks After Lies In Documentary Exposed

    This week, doubt has been cast on the allegations of abuse that were made against Michael Jackson in the HBO documentary Leaving Neverland, after Jackson’s biographer found discrepancies in the official timeline.

    Author Mike Smallcombe, who wrote the Michael Jackson biography “Making Michael” has investigated the claims made in the film and has found that Neverland ranch was not even built yet during the times that alleged victim James Safechuck says that the abuse took place.

    Smallcombe looked into the construction permits for Neverland ranch, and learned that Neverland Ranch was under construction until 1994, but Safechuck claims to have been abused at the ranch by Jackson between the years 1988 and 1992.

    This glaring error was dismissed by director Dan Reed, who is saying that the construction date doesn’t make any difference. He has now doubled down on the claims saying that the abuse actually took place later than was first alleged.

    The new revelations have caused many of the celebrities who helped make the documentary viral delete all of their old posts about the case, including Oprah.



    https://www.anonews.co/leaving-never...ntary-exposed/



    .




    As expected.

  2. #2
    cincinnatikid513
    contra spem spero
    cincinnatikid513's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-23-17
    Posts: 45,361
    Betpoints: 100

    there is still no doubt michael jackson was one sick and creepy dude

  3. #3
    Bluehorseshoe
    Bluehorseshoe's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-13-06
    Posts: 14,936
    Betpoints: 1557

    Not much of a news source there.

  4. #4
    Sanity Check
    A Rising Tide Lifts All Ships
    Sanity Check's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-30-13
    Posts: 10,972
    Betpoints: 12959

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluehorseshoe View Post
    Not much of a news source there.
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebri...abuse-14207115

  5. #5
    gauchojake
    Have Some Asthma
    gauchojake's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 09-17-10
    Posts: 33,726
    Betpoints: 13300

    Neverland Ranch was not built in 1994. I lived in Santa Barbara in 1994 and Neverland Ranch had existed for quite some time prior to that. I want to say late 80's was when he bought an existing ranch and then started converting it into pedo land.
    Nomination(s):
    This post was nominated 1 time . To view the nominated thread please click here. People who nominated: PAULYPOKER

  6. #6
    Sanity Check
    A Rising Tide Lifts All Ships
    Sanity Check's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-30-13
    Posts: 10,972
    Betpoints: 12959

    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    Neverland Ranch was not built in 1994. I lived in Santa Barbara in 1994 and Neverland Ranch had existed for quite some time prior to that. I want to say late 80's was when he bought an existing ranch and then started converting it into pedo land.
    https://twitter.com/mikesmallcombe1/...180097/photo/1


    ^ Photo of the building permit approved in 1993.

  7. #7
    dlowilly
    dlowilly's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-09-16
    Posts: 13,862
    Betpoints: 192573

    I haven't looked at all the links but wouldn't you need a building permit for any new construction? I'm sure everything on the property wasn't built at the same time

  8. #8
    Sanity Check
    A Rising Tide Lifts All Ships
    Sanity Check's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-30-13
    Posts: 10,972
    Betpoints: 12959

    Quote Originally Posted by dlowilly View Post
    I haven't looked at all the links but wouldn't you need a building permit for any new construction? I'm sure everything on the property wasn't built at the same time

    When describing the details of the abuse, Mr Safechuck alleges he was assaulted in an upstairs room in Neverland’s train station, which many will recognise because of its floral clock.

    But Mr Smallcombe says this is seemingly impossible, as Mr Safechuck claimed in his lawsuit against Jackson’s Estate that he was abused from 1988 until 1992, when he was 14.

    Mr Smallcombe told Mirror Online: "The deficiency in Safechuck’s story is this - construction on Neverland’s train station didn’t start until the latter part of 1993, and it didn’t open until the first part of 1994, when Safechuck was 16.

    "So abuse in the train station wasn’t possible if the abuse stopped in 1992, as he claims in his testimony, as it didn't even exist then. There's a two year difference."


    ...


    Speaking to Mirror Online last week, Mr Smallcombe also claimed that Mr Safechuck lied about refusing to testify for Jackson in his 2005 trial.

    It was reported that a judge banned all evidence about Mr Safechuck from the courtroom early on in the trial, as it was unreliable.

    A private investigator who worked on the trial, allegedly added that Mr Safechuck was a ‘nonentity’ in the case from the beginning.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebri...abuse-14207115


    Last edited by Sanity Check; 04-07-19 at 01:11 AM.

  9. #9
    cincinnatikid513
    contra spem spero
    cincinnatikid513's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-23-17
    Posts: 45,361
    Betpoints: 100

    not normal behavior for a grown man to have kids over for sleepovers if world was less all people like michael jackson we would be better off

  10. #10
    gauchojake
    Have Some Asthma
    gauchojake's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 09-17-10
    Posts: 33,726
    Betpoints: 13300

    Adding sanity check to the watch list.

  11. #11
    HurryUpAndDrink
    HurryUpAndDrink's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-23-13
    Posts: 13,017

    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    Adding sanity check to the watch list.
    +1, people defending any pedo has to be watched

    is the world we live in, anyone could be selling and sharing child porn in your neighborhood, period

  12. #12
    HurryUpAndDrink
    HurryUpAndDrink's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-23-13
    Posts: 13,017

    How many adults do you know who sleep with kids on the same bed? famous or not? I BET NONE, and you know why right? because is wrong. Would you let your son stay at Neverland knowing what you know? Answer that honestly and you will be closer to my point of view. Let me give you another perspective... people say "MJ was a kid inside, never had a proper childhood so he is basically making up for lost time", right? Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, Drew Barrymore, Macaulay Culkin, Danny Bonaduce, Jerry O'Connell, Corey Feldman, Leo Di Caprio, all child stars, all served as main financial support for their families, none had a normal childhood, NONE of them, why none of these people sleep with kids? or build a Neverland of their own? because they are not attracted to kids... MJ was 1st accused of pedophilia in 1984, you would think he would learn the lesson, but he was still doing that crap in 1998 risking his rep, fame and career, any normal person would take the hint and stop sleeping with kids.

  13. #13
    gauchojake
    Have Some Asthma
    gauchojake's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 09-17-10
    Posts: 33,726
    Betpoints: 13300

    The Smallcombe fella is probably an MJ sycophant or is trying to sell his book or both. Even if we eliminate 1 unreliable witness from the narrative, nothing changes.

  14. #14
    Sanity Check
    A Rising Tide Lifts All Ships
    Sanity Check's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-30-13
    Posts: 10,972
    Betpoints: 12959

    In an era where the media constantly pushes fake hoaxes like Jussie Smollett, Nathan Phillips and russian collusion.

    Would people really be surprised about multi-million dollar smear campaigns against celebrities who encouraged whites and blacks to co-exist peacefully?

    Michael Jackson was targeted by fake news for being a black conservative. Know who else is black on the political right wing spectrum? XXXtentacion, Nipsey Hustle, Martin Luther King Jr, Malcom X, etc.

    .

  15. #15
    HurryUpAndDrink
    HurryUpAndDrink's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-23-13
    Posts: 13,017

    lol it had nothing to do with Jackson's love for interracial shit

    AT ALL

    you are crazy, end of story

    under the spell of a man named Michael Jackson, embarassing

  16. #16
    Sanity Check
    A Rising Tide Lifts All Ships
    Sanity Check's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-30-13
    Posts: 10,972
    Betpoints: 12959

    Weak troll.

    The deep state agenda is to encourage division and incite war between whites, blacks and other ethnicities.

    Someone burned millions of dollars to promote fake news documentaries and smear campaigns against Michael Jackson because he promoted people of different ethnicities co-existing, contrary to their political agenda and narrative.

    The only reason the Leaving Neverland fakeumentary was published was due to leftists realizing Michael Jackson still has a lot of fans in the younger generation. There are still a lot of teens who are fans. They're making an effort to discredit MJ so they can push their fake SJW angles.


    Everyone knows this, am I right.

  17. #17
    HurryUpAndDrink
    HurryUpAndDrink's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-23-13
    Posts: 13,017

    LMAO, nope, it was to replace the Harvey Weinstein documentary that got scrubbed to show Leaving Neverland instead.

    We know who paid for this, David Geffen. He got the support of Oprah. They celebrated Oprah's bday in his $300M yacht by watching the film.

    Who celebrates a bday by watching a documentary about pedos? You can verify all Im saying by using Google, tard.


    This is Geffen's revenge on MJ and assisting his friend Harvey. It also distracts from Epstein, NXIVM and R Kelly...

    Doesn't mean MJ was not a pedophile, it just means he is being used as a sacrificial lamb, a distraction.


    You are just twisting the story to fit your version that MJ is innocent. No grown men sleep with kids period, guy is a fuckin freak and you are a fuckin weirdo for defending him with such obsession.

  18. #18
    gauchojake
    Have Some Asthma
    gauchojake's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 09-17-10
    Posts: 33,726
    Betpoints: 13300

    Have you ever been institutionalized? Serious question.

  19. #19
    cincinnatikid513
    contra spem spero
    cincinnatikid513's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-23-17
    Posts: 45,361
    Betpoints: 100

    michael jackson is as innocent as oj simpson is innoncent for murdering nicole

  20. #20
    dlowilly
    dlowilly's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-09-16
    Posts: 13,862
    Betpoints: 192573

    I think it's good to recognize possible evidence on both sides, but it seems along with so much other evidence (sheer number of accusers, the two men weren't paid for the documentary, those two men are either great acting non actors when telling their story or it's the truth, MJ showed little sexual interest in adult women or men for that matter but had a new young boy companion per year, etc.) a building permit is not an incontrovertible piece of evidence and a child can hardly be expected to remember exactly what happened in which building at what time. It's not exactly slam dunk MJ is guilty like OJ but the majority of evidence points to it.

  21. #21
    Sanity Check
    A Rising Tide Lifts All Ships
    Sanity Check's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-30-13
    Posts: 10,972
    Betpoints: 12959

    If anyone disagrees, I've been active in the politics section.

    Come & make your case.

    .

  22. #22
    Optional
    Optional's Avatar Moderator
    Join Date: 06-10-10
    Posts: 57,803
    Betpoints: 9216

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanity Check View Post
    https://twitter.com/mikesmallcombe1/...180097/photo/1


    ^ Photo of the building permit approved in 1993.
    Here's some video and photos of the train station building and upstairs room Safechuck spoke about... shot in 1990



  23. #23
    gauchojake
    Have Some Asthma
    gauchojake's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 09-17-10
    Posts: 33,726
    Betpoints: 13300


  24. #24
    HurryUpAndDrink
    HurryUpAndDrink's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-23-13
    Posts: 13,017

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanity Check View Post
    If anyone disagrees, I've been active in the politics section.

    Come & make your case.

    .
    LOL are you stupid? everyone disagrees, and we already buried your stupid statements with logic and common sense.

    No one is chasing you around on another subforum cause nobody cares... MJ is a sick fukk and you are a freak. End of story.

  25. #25
    KVB
    It's not what they bring...
    KVB's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 05-29-14
    Posts: 74,849
    Betpoints: 7576

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanity Check View Post
    If anyone disagrees, I've been active in the politics section.

    Come & make your case.

    .
    This guys has to just plain be trolling. I mean, seriously dude. You've carried a conversation, responded to responses, in this thread and this post says you didn't understand the conversations you had.

    If anyone disagrees? Make your case?


  26. #26
    gauchojake
    Have Some Asthma
    gauchojake's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 09-17-10
    Posts: 33,726
    Betpoints: 13300

    I'll be in the Think Tank arguing about who the sexiest Jackson sister is. Who wants some?????
    Points Awarded:

    KVB gave gauchojake 2 Betpoint(s) for this post.


  27. #27
    gojetsgomoxies
    gojetsgomoxies's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-04-12
    Posts: 4,222
    Betpoints: 8519

    MJ's behaviour was reprehensible no matter what actually happened....... if i asked my neighbour if i could take his 9 year-old son to seattle for the weekend and we'll be staying in all weekend and sleeping in the same bed, that neighbour would go nuts.

    i also love how MJ had very powerful and sensitive security as to people sneaking up to him in his bedroom, but didn't seem overly concerned about general security. i wonder why

  28. #28
    gauchojake
    Have Some Asthma
    gauchojake's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 09-17-10
    Posts: 33,726
    Betpoints: 13300

    Kids the adult alarm just went off put down the Jesus juice!!!

  29. #29
    Auto Donk
    Diggity man the fort, I'm outta here!
    Auto Donk's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-03-13
    Posts: 43,564
    Betpoints: 48

    thank God that sanitycheck has cleared michael jackson for us....

    whew, for a while there, I thought grown men were forever going to be frowned upon or looked at with suspicion for sleeping with little boys who they just met.....

  30. #30
    PAULYPOKER
    I slipped Tricky Dick a hit of LSD!
    PAULYPOKER's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 12-06-08
    Posts: 36,585

    Did you go too far on an acid trip?

  31. #31
    PAULYPOKER
    I slipped Tricky Dick a hit of LSD!
    PAULYPOKER's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 12-06-08
    Posts: 36,585

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanity Check View Post
    Weak troll.

    The deep state agenda is to encourage division and incite war between whites, blacks and other ethnicities.

    Someone burned millions of dollars to promote fake news documentaries and smear campaigns against Michael Jackson because he promoted people of different ethnicities co-existing, contrary to their political agenda and narrative.

    The only reason the Leaving Neverland fakeumentary was published was due to leftists realizing Michael Jackson still has a lot of fans in the younger generation. There are still a lot of teens who are fans. They're making an effort to discredit MJ so they can push their fake SJW angles.


    Everyone knows this, am I right.
    You mean the Black man who hated Black so much he bleached himself white?

  32. #32
    JacketFan81
    GO GEORGIA TECH!
    JacketFan81's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-28-17
    Posts: 1,747
    Betpoints: 3920

    Black people: "See my bullshit piece of evidence? Michael never touched those kids!!"

    Me: "Okay, respect. So you'd let your kids stay with MJ?"

    Black people: "penetrate NO. Dude's a fking pervert!"

  33. #33
    Sanity Check
    A Rising Tide Lifts All Ships
    Sanity Check's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 03-30-13
    Posts: 10,972
    Betpoints: 12959

    I have the vague impression of a few weak trolls in here.

    Yawn.

    .

Top