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    Flu victim..SAD

    8-year-old mother of two died of flu complications on Sunday just days after deciding the medicine she was prescribed to treat the illness was too expensive.

    Heather Holland, a second-grade teacher at Ikard Elementary School in Weatherford, Texas, began exhibiting flu symptoms about a week before her death, according to her husband, Frank Holland.

    Holland went to a doctor and was prescribed flu medication, but when she went to pick it up and learned about the $116 copay, she decided to forgo the prescription, believing it wasn't worth the money.

    When Holland's husband found out about the copay incident on Thursday night, he went back to the pharmacy and bought the prescription himself, but by that point, her condition had swiftly deteriorated.*

    "Friday night, things escalated and she ended up in the ICU," Holland told The Weatherford Democrat. "The doctors got the blood cultures back and they had to put her on dialysis early Saturday."

    On Sunday morning, Holland passed away from flu complications, leaving behind her husband, a 10-year-old daughter and a 7-year-old son.*

    "I have to be strong for the kids but it’s still surreal, it hasn’t all set in," Frank Holland said. "We've been together a long time, over half my life. She's my best friend, my soulmate, my everything."

    The family's pastor, Clark Bosher, told WJBK that Holland was a "happy, fulfilled person" who was just trying to do what was best for her family when she tragically died.

    "She wouldn't go get medicine because she's a mama. Mama's are tough. She just kept going. She had a job; she had kids," Bosher told the outlet. "I think any mom does that. I don't think she is being irresponsible. I don't think she thought she was that sick. It happened so quick."

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    Re: Mom of 2 dies of the flu after deciding medication was too expensive

    This insane at this point!

    i feel so bad for her children ! Rest in Peace !

    Damn this FLU TO THE DEPTHS OF HELL!

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    Re: Mom of 2 dies of the flu after deciding medication was too expensive

    This isn't influenza.

    The CDCs own report said that only 12% of the cultures tested as being suspected influenza cases actually tested positive for a flu variant this year*


    Yeah so.....

    That's that.

    88% of people with the flu....dont have the flu.


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    This is some seriously scary shit.*

    I have a wife and two daughters. Our diet is 90% organic and we use all natural products to avoid chemicals. Also supplement with a fistful of vitamins, minerals, and probiotics, apple cider vinegar, ginger, garlic, turmeric, etc.*

    No flu shots, no vaccines.*

    We’re all healthy, but this so-called “flu” has me seriously worried.*

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    Thread: Teen girl dies hours after leaving school early with flu*

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    Re: Mom of 2 dies of the flu after deciding medication was too expensive

    dont lie, their is no medication for the flu, only your body can fight it off, medication doesn't help.. tamiflu helps with symptoms it can not kill a virus, it does nothing for the flu itself. The flu can only kill you two possible ways Cytokine storm or Pneumonia. Cytokine storm can easily be prevented by smoking a couple cigarettes, FACT. and Pneumonia with inhalation of an antibacterial like vaporized colloidal silver for instance or again a couple cigarettes which will kill the bacteria in the lungs. This is why they trained you to think smokeing is bad for you when it is the exact opposite.

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    She didn't think her life was worth a hundred bucks?
    What a retard!
    And she was a mother and in charge of teaching other people's kids as well?

    No sympathy, apart from the children now motherless. The dad shouldn't have bred with someone so stupid, sorry.

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    Tried to warn you...

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    Re: Mom of 2 dies of the flu after deciding medication was too expensive

    dont lie, their is no medication for the flu, only your body can fight it off, medication doesn't help.. tamiflu helps with symptoms it can not kill a virus, it does nothing for the flu itself. The flu can only kill you two possible ways Cytokine storm or Pneumonia. Cytokine storm can easily be prevented by smoking a couple cigarettes, FACT. and Pneumonia with inhalation of an antibacterial like vaporized colloidal silver for instance or again a couple cigarettes which will kill the bacteria in the lungs. This is why they trained you to think smokeing is bad for you when it is the exact opposite.

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    I knew cigarettes would save my life one day.

    Not intended to be a factual statement.

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    She didn't think her life was worth a hundred bucks?
    What a retard!
    And she was a mother and in charge of teaching other people's kids as well?

    No sympathy, apart from the children now motherless. The dad shouldn't have bred with someone so stupid, sorry.

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    Medicine shouldn't be anywhere near a hundred bucks. That is outrageous.

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    Re: Mom of 2 dies of the flu after deciding medication was too expensive

    She didn't think her life was worth a hundred bucks?
    What a retard!
    And she was a mother and in charge of teaching other people's kids as well?

    No sympathy, apart from the children now motherless. The dad shouldn't have bred with someone so stupid, sorry.

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    You don't know her economic situation. Up until now, she hadn't died- so, probably didn't expect to...

    And, do you really have that much faith in meds to have saved her?

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    Re: Mom of 2 dies of the flu after deciding medication was too expensive

    no such thing as chemtrails so we know the UN can't be spraying us ....

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    Re: Mom of 2 dies of the flu after deciding medication was too expensive

    the story is unclear whether she took the Tamiflu before she deteriorated.

    So, we see that he went back to the pharmacy and got her the Tamiflu, but "by then" her condition deteriorated rapidly.

    Other versions online have even less detail, but it could just as easily be that she actually crashed AFTER she took Tamiflu.

    It's a critical difference, whether she did or did not take a dose of the meds BEFORE she got even worse.

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    Re: Mom of 2 dies of the flu after deciding medication was too expensive

    the story is unclear whether she took the Tamiflu before she deteriorated.

    So, we see that he went back to the pharmacy and got her the Tamiflu, but "by then" her condition deteriorated rapidly.

    Other versions online have even less detail, but it could just as easily be that she actually crashed AFTER she took Tamiflu.

    It's a critical difference, whether she did or did not take a dose of the meds BEFORE she got even worse.

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    it is established fact that your odds of dying from the flu are increased taking flu medication. Lots of statistics on that.

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    Re: Mom of 2 dies of the flu after deciding medication was too expensive

    We are making that choice right now. Food for my child or flu meds for my husband. Hopefully she doesn't get it also.
    So I can empathize with that sort of plight.

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    Re: Mom of 2 dies of the flu after deciding medication was too expensive

    She didn't think her life was worth a hundred bucks?
    What a retard!
    And she was a mother and in charge of teaching other people's kids as well?

    No sympathy, apart from the children now motherless. The dad shouldn't have bred with someone so stupid, sorry.

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    Medicine shouldn't be anywhere near a hundred bucks. That is outrageous.

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    $100 is chump change if you need it and the medicine works.

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    Re: Mom of 2 dies of the flu after deciding medication was too expensive

    the story is unclear whether she took the Tamiflu before she deteriorated.

    So, we see that he went back to the pharmacy and got her the Tamiflu, but "by then" her condition deteriorated rapidly.

    Other versions online have even less detail, but it could just as easily be that she actually crashed AFTER she took Tamiflu.

    It's a critical difference, whether she did or did not take a dose of the meds BEFORE she got even worse.

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    it is established fact that your odds of dying from the flu are increased taking flu medication. Lots of statistics on that.

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    I have a sister in law that got the shot along with my two nephews and they all got the flu a couple of months back. My brother did not get the shot, was around them when they had the flu, and he did not get it.

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    Re: Mom of 2 dies of the flu after deciding medication was too expensive

    the story is unclear whether she took the Tamiflu before she deteriorated.

    So, we see that he went back to the pharmacy and got her the Tamiflu, but "by then" her condition deteriorated rapidly.

    Other versions online have even less detail, but it could just as easily be that she actually crashed AFTER she took Tamiflu.

    It's a critical difference, whether she did or did not take a dose of the meds BEFORE she got even worse.

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    EXACTLY

    Many have died AFTER taking tamiflu and flu shot. The way the article reads it sounds like the hubby got the tamiflu she then took it and died.

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    They are pulling at your heartstrings to get you to take the vaccine/shots. Is it working yet? Will you get your shot next year?

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    Re: Mom of 2 dies of the flu after deciding medication was too expensive

    This isn't influenza.

    The CDCs own report said that only 12% of the cultures tested as being suspected influenza cases actually tested positive for a flu variant this year*


    Yeah so.....

    That's that.

    88% of people with the flu....dont have the flu.


    Something else.

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    We have a person who is thinking; a bug, not flu. We are living a real life movie like Star Wars or Lord of the Rings.

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    Re: Mom of 2 dies of the flu after deciding medication was too expensive

    This isn't influenza.

    The CDCs own report said that only 12% of the cultures tested as being suspected influenza cases actually tested positive for a flu variant this year*


    Yeah so.....

    That's that.

    88% of people with the flu....dont have the flu.


    Something else.

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    Re: Mom of 2 dies of the flu after deciding medication was too expensive

    This is some seriously scary shit.*

    I have a wife and two daughters. Our diet is 90% organic and we use all natural products to avoid chemicals. Also supplement with a fistful of vitamins, minerals, and probiotics, apple cider vinegar, ginger, garlic, turmeric, etc.*

    No flu shots, no vaccines.*

    We’re all healthy, but this so-called “flu” has me seriously worried.*

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    A scary thing about the flu is you can actually die from your immune system being too healthy...

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    Re: Mom of 2 dies of the flu after deciding medication was too expensive

    She didn't think her life was worth a hundred bucks?
    What a retard!
    And she was a mother and in charge of teaching other people's kids as well?

    No sympathy, apart from the children now motherless. The dad shouldn't have bred with someone so stupid, sorry.

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    She didn't think her life was worth a hundred bucks?
    What a retard!
    And she was a mother and in charge of teaching other people's kids as well?

    No sympathy, apart from the children now motherless. The dad shouldn't have bred with someone so stupid, sorry.

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    She may not have known her life was at stake.

    She may not have had the means to pay $119. You assume everyone has a credit card but you are mistaken. I have left ER with prescriptions I could not fill.

    It's obnoxious that emergency treatment sometimes is limited
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    What the fukk did you just post?

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    I guess anybody can get this flu so its somewhat relevant

    but Saloon topics like this

    why would it belong in Players Talk? pisses me off

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    Did you just post an entire medical journal?

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    8-year-old mother of two?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    8-year-old mother of two?
    With a 10 year old kid no less. Very confusing.

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    it is true no meds can treat the flu
    tamiflu is overrated

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    RIP my condolences Family

    tamiflu will destroy your liver. Look it up, scary shit.

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    Sad story indeed, but I started reading it 4 days ago and just finished now.

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    Rumor has it She wanted to save that Hundo to go pro here. Sad though feel bad for kids the most,it would be terrible to grow up living with that. Prayers for the family!
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    This thread has AIDS.

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    new rules, flu kills

    getting my affairs in order, way over due

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    The medical "Establishment" running DC is at fault as usual.........

    The only thing flu shots do is make it much easier to get the flu,PERIOD!..........

    My dad is 88 years old and doesn't EVER get the flu as he never believed in flu shots since they weaken the immune system,FACT.......

    I'm also praying to the God not to jinx my father because of my matter of fact words above........

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    we hope that your father stays healthy
    and that he dies by asteroid, with the rest of us
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    Flu kills. Stay away from people.

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    Iíve taken care of three people this year that have died of the flu

    My little one has the flu right now, scary shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    I’ve taken care of three people this year that have died of the flu

    My little one has the flu right now, scary shit
    Sad. Were they in a high risk group?

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    Not by age but possibly by co-morbitidies. At the point I see them itís salvage mode and weíre slamming assist devices in their hearts just trying to stabilize them until they recover. Some do, sadly 3 havenít. All 3 tested positive for influenza A. I donít know which strain but Iím sure they tested and the cdc knows.

    One was a 21 year old kid with no medical history or drug use, the other 2 late 50ís early 60ís. There was a 4th person, she is late 20ís and she got a heart transplant and is doing phenomenal.

    The common denominator among all 3 was that their families were in shock they died, so that tells me to some extent these were generally healthy people that were probably expected to survive the flu

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    Don't mean to pry, but what do you do? Are you a hospice worker?

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    Sometimes it seems like that. Iím a nurse but work in the hospital, not hospice. Got all the respect in the world for those that do hospice work

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Iíve taken care of three people this year that have died of the flu

    My little one has the flu right now, scary shit
    Hope ur lil one is ok,hate when my lil boy is sick

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    Ya Same here, thought Iíd handle it in stride but Iím not

    Sheís doing fine, just a sick kiddo, hopefully just a virus but still running up to 104 over night. Kids are troopers, girl gets her ibuprofen or Tylenol and she rallies hardcore, and then fukking crashes as the fever returns.

    Reminds me of college. Drink to the point you swear youíre never drinking again, wake up for 0800 class, puke and the go to class all day. Party again that night. Repeat for 4 years
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