[The Kraken]

I loved the old Jack3d, but who didn't

The main problem I have with pretty much everything on the shelves right now is it's just a ton of caffeine mixed with some beta-alanine

I've been drinking such high quantity of caffeine over the years, I'm basically immune to it

The three I've tried recently were #Shatter, Mr Hyde and N.O. Xplode

Mr Hyde and N.O. Xplode have almost nil effect, #shatter was minimal but a bit better

Need a good ephedrine source

[blackHIPPY]

shits make me all jittery fuk em

[jjgold]

Lol

Real roids or nothing

Dbol
Winstrol very good

[smitch124]

Nope, but use grape juice and Whey protein for recovery. When I feel I've worked out hard enough to deserve a recovery drink.

I'm a tough trainer on myself.

[The Kraken]

It's probably all the caffeine Hippy, ridiculous amounts of caffeine in them

I assume its because they've all been neutered and no good active ingredients left in them

But I'm hoping Im missing one

[The Kraken]

Lol

Real roids or nothing

Dbol
Winstrol very good

I don't have a good source that I trust

[Dirty Sanchez]

[Seaweed]

I use SuperFreak

[The Kraken]

Is that the same thing that DS posted above you?

[daneblazer]

Caffeine.

[LordVodka]

Stay away from ephedrine. I used it daily with caffeine for a boost at work. I'm pretty sure that's what gave me heart problems.

[pavyracer]

An orange and a slice of toasted bread with butter and honey.

[pattymayo]

Preworkout supps are the biggest scam, drink a cup of coffee pre workout for the same effect

[FlipsideRM]

Nope. I go raw, preworkout makes me jittery and have bad anxiety. I just put up a pic of a hot chick I know I can get if I get through this workout day after day. Works for me

[Russian Rocket]

Nope. I go raw,

Flipper is a fkng animal we always thought he was....

[TheMoneyShot]

I loved the old Jack3d, but who didn't

The main problem I have with pretty much everything on the shelves right now is it's just a ton of caffeine mixed with some beta-alanine

I've been drinking such high quantity of caffeine over the years, I'm basically immune to it

The three I've tried recently were #Shatter, Mr Hyde and N.O. Xplode

Mr Hyde and N.O. Xplode have almost nil effect, #shatter was minimal but a bit better

Need a good ephedrine source

Caffeine.

Yep, I know a body builder that takes straight black coffee before workouts. He just slams it.

I use that "Great Value Energy" drops. It's a Walmart brand. You just throw it in your water. Gives me the energy I need. $2.48 each I think?


You can also use "Diet Turbo Tea" from ABB (American Body Building) company. You can get the sugar free version or sugar version. It gets expensive using them daily though.

[jjgold]

[TheMoneyShot]

Preworkout supps are the biggest scam, drink a cup of coffee pre workout for the same effect

Yep. Pretty much anything over the counter is garbage. Highly priced too.

[gauchojake]

BCAA's B vitamins and caffeine. I do a lot of HIIT when I workout so most of that pre charge crap spikes my heart rate when I really don't need it.

[FlipsideRM]

BCAA's B vitamins and caffeine. I do a lot of HIIT when I workout so most of that pre charge crap spikes my heart rate when I really don't need it.

Yep, I always warm up with 30-40 mins of cardio and can notice a big difference when I drink caffeine compared to when I don't. I just stay away from preworkout and caffeine all together

[The Kraken]

Thx all for the advice

Basically what I thought

Think I'm just gonna stick to double or triple shot espressos

They do as much for me as any of the pre-workouts

Although I did some research and found plenty of pre-workout supps still have 1,3 DMAA,which was in the orignial jack3d

But I think I'll just stick with coffee

[jjgold]

Krackles you ever shoot in the ass??

I did a few times and my whole ass turned blue

I must of hit the wrong area..fuk that

Now take pills

[The Kraken]

In HS I tried some Dbol, but who knows, could've been peanut oil

Only did it a few times Coach

Coach you telling me they make steroids in pill form?

I might need to look into this

[Totolover1409]

I use Pre-Kaged by Kris Gethin. Gives me the shits but it gets the job done in the gym.

[Russian Rocket]

Krackles you ever shoot in the ass??

I did a few times and my whole ass turned blue

[LordVodka]

In HS I tried some Dbol, but who knows, could've been peanut oil

Only did it a few times Coach

Coach you telling me they make steroids in pill form?

I might need to look into this

Look into it and also look into a liver transplant while you're at it. There's a reason steroids are injected. Kill your liver if you take it in pill form.

[jjgold]

unreal..great stuff

[The Kraken]

unreal..great stuff

You know whats not great stuff coach

You trying to kill my fukking liver

[ACoochy]

Water...

Hydration will give you a cleaner and more energetic workout session than any of those supposed pre-workout supplements...

[The Kraken]

Water...

Hydration will give you a cleaner and more energetic workout session than any of those supposed pre-workout supplements...

Thx Coochy

I've only used them a few times in my life, back in 2000 when I was training for the fire dept, my brother and I got some pills from GNC that were killer! Got banned the next year for ephedrine I think. Then used Jack3d a few years back and it was good.

Think I'm done with them.

Thx for the suggestion

[daneblazer]

I've stopped drinking energy drinks. Have cut out all the prework too. Wasn't making that big of a difference. Often times it would take a while to kick in. Coffee works fine now. I have a Moka express if I need a little extra bump

[Chi_archie]

Some Canadian hook me and Kraken up with some ephedrine

[BIGDAY]

When I was really into it, Jack3d was awesome.

Now in my age I just get some good music going and I'm good to go.

[killawookie]

As much as everyone knows about all of this I'd assume everyone is in pretty good shape. Kind of hard to believe honestly. Jack3D was good before the class action lawsuit.

[b1slickguy]