[PhillyFlyers]

President Obama doesn’t merely claim ignorance of the IRS’ targeting of politically conservative groups or the Department of Justice’s targeting of journalists: according to The New York Times, Obama was also ignorant of the extent of NSA surveillance. According to the Times, “aides said Mr. Obama was surprised to learn after leaks by Edward J. Snowden, the former National Security Agency contractor, just how far the surveillance had gone.” David Plouffe, Obama’s advisor, said, “Things seem to have grown at the NSA. I think it was disturbing to most people, and I think he found it disturbing.” President Obama has repeatedly claimed ignorance on scandals plaguing his administration.

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/obam...a-surveillance


Obama's Path From Critic To Overseer Of Spying

Yet it is hard to express indignation at actions of the government after five years of running it, and some involved in surveillance note that it was Mr. Obama who pushed national security agencies to be aggressive in hunting terrorists. “For some, his outrage does ring a little bit hollow,” said a former counterterrorism official.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/16/us...of-spying.html

[muldoon]

Brutal (Obama). Looking ahead to 2016, are there any candidates that people honestly think won't take every inch their predecessor scammed and go one further with it? Obama took every piece of rope left by Bush2, and stretched it to the point where we need whistleblowers just to give us an inkling of what is being done.

This Obama article brought to you by the NY Times. The same paper that sat on the domestic spying story for 15 months when the Bush admin called them into the Whitehouse and asked them not to (saving them the headache of having to deal with it during the 2004 election) under the guise that it would "endanger the nation" - then reported it anyway (and won a pulitzer) because the original author was fed up with them and was putting it into his book.

http://articles.latimes.com/2005/dec...ion/na-media20

[C-Gold]

If he doesn't know about anything, fast and furious, Bengazi, IRS targeting, NSA, Jermiah Wright...

and can't do anything... about the economy, the wars, foreign policy

Then why should he continue to be President? If it is all Bush's fault and his aides are running everything and he plays golf and goes to Hawaii for 17 days then what is the point?

[SBR_John]

Brutal (Obama). Looking ahead to 2016, are there any candidates that people honestly think won't take every inch their predecessor scammed and go one further with it? Obama took every piece of rope left by Bush2, and stretched it to the point where we need whistleblowers just to give us an inkling of what is being done.

This Obama article brought to you by the NY Times. The same paper that sat on the domestic spying story for 15 months when the Bush admin called them into the Whitehouse and asked them not to (saving them the headache of having to deal with it during the 2004 election) under the guise that it would "endanger the nation" - then reported it anyway (and won a pulitzer) because the original author was fed up with them and was putting it into his book.

http://articles.latimes.com/2005/dec...ion/na-media20

Hopefully its still a topic and we can find out if any candidates will take a stand. Rand Paul called for defunding the NSA. 2016 is a long way off and I fear this won't have the shelf life to be a hot issue.

[itchypickle]

I love the evolution of this story....initially Obama said the NSA doesnt do anything of the sort....then proof came out and he said...well, it might happen rarely that mass data of random people are taken BUT not kept/stored...then had to lie again, okay okay there is a program where we do this but its really safe and nobody actually looks at your info...and guess what, changed again to well we look at random people only to tie them into suspected individuals.....fast forward and now the excuse is okay okay we sweep up everything you do, and its been stored and reviewed but now we ill just outsource it to a private company so that the govt isn't in charge of the info BUT we will hand pick who handles it...sort of like military contractors who do things the govt cant do in other areas i.e. military/police actions.

This guy is a first class liar and still gets a pass because if he says hey the Dolphins will still win the Super Bowl this year, and you call him on it...racist.

[muldoon]

This guy is a first class liar and still gets a pass because if he says hey the Dolphins will still win the Super Bowl this year, and you call him on it...racist.

His approval rating is absolutely in the shitter. Outside of the obvious "in the tank" usuals in the media (both sides have their hard core 20%), who exactly is giving him a pass that's bothering you? I know you DVR all the MSNBC shows (which they thank you for - if only for ratings) - is that who is giving him this "pass" you speak of?

And big shock, no one brings up racism here until Itchy-The-Grand-Dragon cries about racism.

[itchypickle]

His approval rating is absolutely in the shitter. Outside of the obvious "in the tank" usuals in the media (both sides have their hard core 20%), who exactly is giving him a pass that's bothering you? I know you DVR all the MSNBC shows (which they thank you for - if only for ratings) - is that who is giving him this "pass" you speak of?

And big shock, no one brings up racism here until Itchy-The-Grand-Dragon cries about racism.

How about Obama HIMSELF crying racism THIS WEEKEND...good enough proof for you?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...r-reports.html

Melissa Herris- Perry did an entire show about Obamacare being called that because its a racial word......forgetting the White House itself calls it Obamacare.

I can go on and on....just let me know how many people you need me to quote and link you to pal. Talk about head in the sand.

[muldoon]

How about Obama HIMSELF crying racism THIS WEEKEND...good enough proof for you?

There’s no doubt that there’s some folks who just really dislike me because they don’t like the idea of a black president,

Is he wrong???

Have you read this forum?

You brought it up in this thread "pal" - no one else did.

Go drag another bro behind a truck Itchy.

[itchypickle]

Is he wrong???

Have you read this forum?

You brought it up in this thread "pal" - no one else did.

Go drag another bro behind a truck Itchy.

Because I've seen it since 2008....race has been brought up after criticism of his policy on just about every issue....simple Google search will give you articles or news clips from it. Still happening to this day, literally with the Bloomberg interview.

I'm not saying there aren't racists in America. I'm simply saying if his ideology is borrow and blow as a fiscal policy and someone says the other side, thats legitimate debate NOT racism.

But to get back on track with the thread topic - the man is a proven liar and not just plausible deniability. Whether it's taxes, health care results, and now the NSA.

[PhillyFlyers]

Is he wrong???

Have you read this forum?

You brought it up in this thread "pal" - no one else did.

Go drag another bro behind a truck Itchy.

Muldoon

Take your bleeding heart and shove up your ass dikkbag.

For every spook that was ever hung, 100x more black crimes were committed by blacks upon whites.

Not to mention, most hangings were JUSTIFIED seeing as how only the worst of the worst got hung.

How more white girls are going to get raped by spooks this year?

I hope you have a daughter and I hope she is one of them.

You'll learn then, won't you?

[C-Gold]

That's all Obama can ever do. Claim ignorance. Worked pretty well with Bengazzi when our Ambassador was killed with our lapdog media.

[muldoon]

How more white girls are going to get raped by spooks this year?

I hope you have a daughter and I hope she is one of them.

You'll learn then, won't you?

Here's your base Itchy. Wild racist with rape fantasies.

Nice company you keep.

[itchypickle]

Here's your base Itchy. Wild racist with rape fantasies.

Nice company you keep.

I'll give you a $100 bill to walk first a street in a Red State city and then Obama's home city of Chicago, or hell his current residence of D.C....get off on a side street there. Then come tell me your experiences. I'll take Philly over the YouTube comedies of Obama voters anyday.

And a simple question...yes or no....was Obama telling the truth or lying about NSA actions and about his health care promise?

[PhillyFlyers]

Here's your base Itchy. Wild racist with rape fantasies.

Nice company you keep.

Shut up, bitch.

You and your kind is exactly what is wrong with this country.

It wasn't blacks and minorities that elected Obama. It was soft, coward, spineless white liberals like yourself.

In a way, your kind is worse than blacks.

[muldoon]

In a way, your kind is worse than blacks.

Aren't you the one who is trying to run away to another country?

Or maybe just hoping to get abducted by one of your youtube friends?

[muldoon]

And a simple question...yes or no....was Obama telling the truth or lying about NSA actions and about his health care promise?

Absolutely he's lied - 100%.

I just don't believe you gave one shit about the lies of his predecessor (maybe to justify the time you wasted in Iraq?)

I said Iraq...did I just make it about race somehow in your weird world?

[PhillyFlyers]

Aren't you the one who is trying to run away to another country?

Or maybe just hoping to get abducted by one of your youtube friends?

Run away?

No.

Living my dreams?

Yes.

[muldoon]

Run away?

No.

Run Forrest! Run!

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/saloon/269...ould-i-do.html

[PhillyFlyers]

Run Forrest! Run!

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/saloon/269...ould-i-do.html

So what?

What do you think this proves?

I'm living my dreams.

Have fun watching your daughter have black babies.

[C-Gold]

Absolutely he's lied - 100%.

I just don't believe you gave one shit about the lies of his predecessor (maybe to justify the time you wasted in Iraq?)

I said Iraq...did I just make it about race somehow in your weird world?

Typical socialist answer. Yeah yeah but Bush!

[C-Gold]

So what?

What do you think this proves?

I'm living my dreams.

Have fun watching your daughter have black babies.

White self hating leftist doesn't even want kids or grand kids that look like him.