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    Colorado suspect was brilliant science student



    This kid even rigged apartment with explosives and traps
    What a fukkin nut..FBI still cannot get in apartment as they are scared to death




    DENVER (AP) — James Eagen Holmes came from a well-tended San Diego enclave of two-story homes with red-tiled roofs, where neighbors recall him as a clean-cut, studious young man of sparing words.
    Tall and dark-haired, he stared clear-eyed at the camera in a 2004 high school yearbook snapshot, wearing a white junior varsity soccer uniform — No. 16. The son of a nurse, Arlene, and a software company manager, Robert, James Holmes was a brilliant science scholar in college.
    The biggest mystery surrounding the 24-year-old doctoral student was why he would have pulled on a gas mask and shot dozens of people early Friday in a suburban Denver movie theater, as police allege.
    In the age of widespread social media, no trace of Holmes could be found on Facebook, LinkedIn, MySpace, Twitter or anywhere on the Web. Either he never engaged or he scrubbed his trail.
    A longtime neighbor in San Diego, where Holmes grew up, remembers only a "shy guy ... a loner" from a churchgoing family. In addition to playing soccer at Westview High School, he ran cross country.
    The bookish demeanor concealed an unspooling life. Holmes struggled to find work after graduating with highest honors in spring 2010 with a neuroscience degree from the University of California, Riverside, said the neighbor, retired electrical engineer Tom Mai.
    Holmes enrolled last year in a neuroscience Ph.D. program at the University of Colorado-Denver but was in the process of withdrawing, said school officials, who didn't provide a reason. The school later said in a statement that he left the program in June 2012.
    As part of the advanced program in Denver, a James Holmes had been listed as making a presentation in May about Micro DNA Biomarkers in a class named "Biological Basis of Psychiatric and Neurological Disorders."
    In academic achievement, "he was at the top of the top," recalled Riverside Chancellor Timothy P. White.
    Holmes concentrated his study on "how we all behave," White added. "It's ironic and sad."
    From a distance, Holmes' life appears unblemished, a young man with unlimited potential. There are no indications he had problems with police.
    Somehow, the acclaimed student and quiet neighbor reached a point where he painted his hair red, called himself "The Joker," the green-haired villain from the Batman movies, according to New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly, who said he had been briefed on the matter.
    Authorities say Holmes arrived at the theater dressed in black, outfitted in a gas mask, ballistic helmet, vest and leggings, black tactical gloves and protectors on his throat and groin. He was armed with an assault-style rifle, a shotgun and Glock handgun.
    Police said he started his attack by tossing two gas canisters into the theater, where he had bought a ticket for the midnight showing of "The Dark Knight Rises," the new Batman movie.
    A federal law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing probe into the rampage, said Holmes bought four guns from retailers in the past two months.
    Holmes bought his first Glock pistol in Aurora, Colo., on May 22. Six days later, he picked up a Remington shotgun in Denver. About two weeks later, he bought a .223 caliber Smith & Wesson rifle in Thornton, Colo., and then a second Glock in Denver on July 6 — 13 days before the shooting, the official said.
    A high-volume drum magazine was attached to the rifle, an assault weapon, the official said. Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates said that a 100-round drum magazine for the rifle was recovered from the scene.
    "I'm told by experts that with that drum magazine, he could have gotten off 50 to 60 rounds, even if it was semiautomatic, within one minute," Oates said at a news conference. "And as far as we know, it was a pretty rapid pace of fire in that theater."
    Julie Adams, whose son played junior varsity soccer with Holmes, said her son remembered little about the suspect, which was unusual for the tight-knit team.
    "I don't think many of the kids (teammates) knew him. He was kind of a loner," she said.
    Jackie Mitchell, a furniture mover who lives several blocks from the suspect's apartment building in Colorado, said he had drinks with Holmes at a bar on Tuesday night, though he showed no sign of distress or violence.
    After Holmes approached him, "we just talked about football. He had a backpack and geeky glasses and seemed like a real intelligent guy, and I figured he was one of the college students," Mitchell said.
    When Mitchell saw Holmes' photo after the shooting, "the hair stood up on my back," he said. "I know this guy."
    Holmes is not talking to police and has asked for a lawyer, according to a law enforcement official briefed on the investigation. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the case. Police found jars of chemicals in Holmes' booby-trapped apartment with wires nearby, the law enforcement official said.
    When he surrendered meekly in the movie house parking lot, Holmes told authorities what he'd done at his residence in the Denver suburb of Aurora, the third most populous city in Colorado.
    "Our hearts go out to those who were involved in this tragedy and to the families and friends of those involved," Holmes' family said in a statement Friday. "We ask that the media respect our privacy during this difficult time."
    San Diego Superior Court spokeswoman Karen Dalton said there were no records found under his name, not even for a traffic ticket. Riverside County prosecutors also have no criminal record for him, said John Hall, a spokesman for the district attorney's office. The only mark on his record in Aurora was a speeding summons from October, Oates said.
    On Friday morning, police escorted the suspect's father from the family's San Diego home. The mother stayed inside, receiving visitors who came to offer support.
    San Diego police spokeswoman Lt. Andra Brown spoke to reporters in the driveway of the Holmes' home, on behalf of the family.
    "As you can understand, the Holmes family is very upset about all of this," she said. "It's a tragic event and it's taken everyone by surprise."
    ___
    Blood reported from Los Angeles. Associated Press contributors to this report include Elliot Spagat and Julie Watson in San Diego; Eileen Sullivan, Alicia A. Caldwell and Pete Yost in Washington; Tom Hays in New York; Amy Taxin in Orange County, Calif.; Colleen Slevin in Denver; and Eric Carvin and AP researcher Judith Ausuebel in New York.

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    unreal

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    How many people must die before the US do something about the Laws of owning fire arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace_of_Spades View Post
    How many people must die before the US do something about the Laws of owning fire arms.
    Um, years ago two blacks were robbing a grocery store and an elderly man who was concealing started shooting at them saving everyone. Too bad no one had a concealed weapon at the theater.

    Stupid people will always find a way to own a gun, nothing you can do about it. Colorado just needs to be more strict with their gun ownership laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace_of_Spades View Post
    How many people must die before the US do something about the Laws of owning fire arms.
    You do realize that there was something wrong with the kid, right? Not with the gun?

    Did you ask there to be no more planes after 9/11? Planes were used to kill thousands.

    People have the right to travel freely, just as they have the right to own a gun.

    Something has changed in our culture in the last 50 years. Kids used to be taught how to use a gun in school, as part of the regular curriculum. Kids weren't blowing each others heads off back then.

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    one death is too many but I am surprised only 12 died

    This could of been way worse

    He had lots of ammo on him, I guess as far as being a gun expert he was not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cougar Bait View Post
    You do realize that there was something wrong with the kid, right? Not with the gun?

    Did you ask there to be no more planes after 9/11? Planes were used to kill thousands.

    People have the right to travel freely, just as they have the right to own a gun.

    Something has changed in our culture in the last 50 years. Kids used to be taught how to use a gun in school, as part of the regular curriculum. Kids weren't blowing each others heads off back then.
    I find it hard to read anything you say when i can see your avatar on the left. It looks quite irresponsible and isn't helping the problem at hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    one death is too many but I am surprised only 12 died

    This could of been way worse

    He had lots of ammo on him, I guess as far as being a gun expert he was not
    He shot like 50-60 people... most of it just spray though... lots of people shot in the arm/leg/shoulder

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    ^70

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    Kid was a shut in, affraid of the war

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace_of_Spades View Post
    How many people must die before the US do something about the Laws of owning fire arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cougar Bait View Post
    You do realize that there was something wrong with the kid, right? Not with the gun?

    Did you ask there to be no more planes after 9/11? Planes were used to kill thousands.

    People have the right to travel freely, just as they have the right to own a gun.

    Something has changed in our culture in the last 50 years. Kids used to be taught how to use a gun in school, as part of the regular curriculum. Kids weren't blowing each others heads off back then.
    Lol what school did you go to?

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    Did this guy have girlfriends??

    Looks like a good looking guy

    Anyone know anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Did this guy have girlfriends??

    Looks like a good looking guy

    Anyone know anything?
    He was trolling for cooze on that one adult site, seemed to be into kinky shit too

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    He actually is related to a poster on SBR, mathdotcom

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    I don't get it. they let him by a ticket and walk into the theater with all this gear on? or he started his rampage on the employees and made his way into the theater?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoo youk View Post
    I don't get it. they let him by a ticket and walk into the theater with all this gear on? or he started his rampage on the employees and made his way into the theater?
    He parked his car outside outside the emergency exit. It was all planned out. Brought a ticket, sat near that exit door then exited and propped the door while faking a phone call. Got the gear from his car and dressed outside then reentered. Started with the tear gas.

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    only country where you can buy a gun .

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    Guns are to blame. It was the guns fault I tell you. BAN THEM ALL!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thezbar View Post
    He parked his car outside outside the emergency exit. It was all planned out. Brought a ticket, sat near that exit door then exited and propped the door while faking a phone call. Got the gear from his car and dressed outside then reentered. Started with the tear gas.
    wow

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    Quote Originally Posted by aceking View Post
    only country where you can buy a gun .
    Not true, in europe you can buy a gun just not in the wallmart.

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    Maybe red flags should appear when one individual buys a large quantity of guns and ammo and he is not a dealer. Does that make too much sense? Or do we already have that in place?

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    Lmao jj saying he's a good looking guy. Homo

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    Come on y'all....don't you see he was Cia sleeper....Cia go around college campus recruiting kids and put them thru these training program!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace_of_Spades View Post
    How many people must die before the US do something about the Laws of owning fire arms.
    You probably rately stray from mommies basement and I can say with 100% certainty have never traveled to Israel, but there many , many individuals own firearms.

    Funny, we rarely hear of mass shootings over there.

    Certain places in the US have been very serious about their citizens owning guns.

    Chicago, NYC, DC come to mind.

    Certainly those cities must be just about free of crime.

    Meanwhile other parts of the country are more lax when it comes to gun laws.
    Texas, Montana, Wyoming.....
    Those states MUST BE hotbeds of gun violence...

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    I find owning a handgun is acceptable, but having a ******* ar15 come on.

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    We make jokes and wise cracks and I guess we are whistling in the grave yard, this is incomprehensible and it happens too often. Scores, maybe hundreds of ruined lives. Families devastated, never to be the same. Parents who did maybe everything correct losing kids and that may very well include the family of the shooter. They may very well be thinking we raised a smart, personable kid we gave him all the advantages and sent him to the one of the best school districts in the country. What happened? No answers!

    My son has an extremely bright little boy who attends a special school and was chosen as one of the brightest. He said to me not long ago dad I want him to be scary smart like the kids on "the big bang show." I replied, I don't. Many times those very exceptional kids are not quite right. Don't get me wrong we need those kids, they are an asset to the world, they are super beings but sometimes they pay a high price. Often they have emotional problems and very often they are unable to relate to people. Maybe, you think that is a small price to pay for genius and maybe you are correct I would rather raise a child that is exceptional but not quite extraordinarily exceptional because it comes with baggage.

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    On occasion very talented kids suffer from a condition called Aspergers. Often it is not dangerous but it does handicap the kid when it involves social issues and communicating with empathy. I am not saying at all that this kid suffers from this but it wouldn't surprise me one little bit if he does.

    We as a community are only barely touching the intricacies of the mind. Like the comment in "young Frankenstein" the heart and other organs are tinker toys compared to the mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Let's Go Rangers View Post
    Certain places in the US have been very serious about their citizens owning guns.

    Chicago, NYC, DC come to mind.

    Certainly those cities must be just about free of crime.

    Meanwhile other parts of the country are more lax when it comes to gun laws.
    Texas, Montana, Wyoming.....
    Those states MUST BE hotbeds of gun violence...
    Comparing Chicago, NY with Montana and Wyoming. lol

    So if the laws were reversed the crime rate would be reversed too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDeem5 View Post
    He actually is related to a poster on SBR, mathdotcom
    I thought I was the only one who thought it looked like mathdotcom's avatar.

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    Mods delete this thread now

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    Quote Originally Posted by dante1 View Post
    Maybe red flags should appear when one individual buys a large quantity of guns and ammo and he is not a dealer. Does that make too much sense? Or do we already have that in place?
    That happened in Arizona, where certain "shady" individuals were buying massive amounts of guns. The dealers, who would normally not allow such persons to buy the quantities they were buying were ordered by the ATF to allow all the gun purchases these people wanted. You might have heard about it? It was a little scandal perpetuated by the DOJ and the Attorney General in their efforts to propagate UN gun control.

    THOUSANDS of victims in Mexico, and a US border guard were killed by guns that the responsible dealers would likely not have allowed to be purchased if not being "commanded" to by the ATF.

    Sadly, this tragedy will bring the gun control zealots out like usual. Last week, when a 71 year old man shot 2 punks who were armed with guns and a bat while robbing a store full of customers (probably saving lives) you almost heard nothing from mainstream media.

    Nonetheless, it's a sad sad day for the victims and their families of this horrific crime , gunned down by this punk. God bless them and to all victims of senseless violence that everyone in the world suffers every day by the hands of wretched souls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace_of_Spades View Post
    How many people must die before the US do something about the Laws of owning fire arms.
    Which "laws" were you referring too? The second amendment to the constitution? Perhaps you want to repeal it? While you're at it, you can repeal the 1rst amendment so you can silence those who want to object. You can repeal the 4rth amendment too, you know, so the police can search every ones house whenever they want without cause to search for guns. Then you can repeal the 5th amendment so as to detain anyone suspected of wanting to own a gun without a formal charge. Since you have detained him without a charge, it really makes the 6th and 8th amendments useless anyway. Since now you've disarmed the public, no one is left to defend the 13th amendment.

    Of course, we still have the 15th amendment to vote people in to reverse these repeals, but by then, we will be subjegated to international law anyway. So please, don't repeal the 21rst amendment, because after you turn this nation into a living hell, where citizens are fearful of government goons and criminals, with no recourse left to protect ourselves, at least allow us to legally get drunk.

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