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    Poker Advice

    Can anyone give me any advice, tips, strategies on playing live poker at the casino and being profitable doing so? I've played a lot of online poker, my fair share of house games, and probably logged about 30 hours of live casino poker. I'm looking to sharpen my game as I intend to step my casino time up significantly over the next year.

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    If you're playing 1/2 NL live you can play very tight aggressive poker and be very profitable.

    Only play mostly premium hands, play them aggressive, and look for cheap flops to hit sets and flushes.

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    Ask Emily he plays 1-2 and 2-5 Nl but he bets 1 million a game so he's confident in his poker

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    All dependant on your opponents. I mainly play 2-5 NL and when I first started out without a read on anyone I played very tight. Standard ABC Poker is suitable for 1/2..mix it up once in awhile but dont be triple barrel bluffing because a lot of the time in the small stakes since its such little money youre going to have a lot of calling stations. Raise big with monster hands....a lot of the time I see people try to limp in or raise with JJ+ and thats just asking for trouble. Live players especially will call you off with top pair so pick your spots.
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    When you first sit down play tighter than a nuns oyster. Just watch the other players and their style of play. Spend the first 2 or 3 rounds (a good hour) playing this way and only limp/call in great position... you will give off the image as tight (which is good). When you feel you have a read on the players you can open up a little bit. Pick your spots wisely, if a player is call happy don't try to steal his blind with A3.

    This is a good starting style. Something huge is learning 'tells'. Look online, watch videos, read articles/books. I've read so many books on social psychology (it's a hobby of mine) that the simplest things (like pupil dilation) can give off obvious signs.

    I play with different styles depending on the table, I give off a certain 'image'. Let's say I'm heads up against a 22-25 year old players who think they know everything. If I have a great hand I will give off one obvious tell (lean in, look at them to their chips, hold my breath) so they think I'm bluffing and they call. I can't tell you how often this works.... things like this become part of your game over time. You will be able to classify players just be looking at them, is that 24 year old fukktard wearing sunglasses and a backwards hat.... the 42 year old broke dikk fukk flirting with the waitress and tipping $5 every beer, the 55 year old knitted sweater looking as content as can be, the 45 year old women dressed in her tens etc. etc.

    However, LEARN TELLS. After putting their chips in did their hand brush above their lips? Did the player beside me squish his balls his legs are so close to each other? Why won't she look at me?

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    thank you to all...i will definitely look into a book about "tells"...i want to become a weekend warrior on the tables living so close to the casino now

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    try to Only play AA AK AQ AJ A10 KK KQ QQ Q10 JJ 1010 and connectors if you feeling lucky like 7-8 9-8 and suited connectors are worth it if you can get in small liike 4-5 spades

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    Small Stakes Hold 'em: Winning Big With Expert Play

    Got this book on the way. I think it will fit me well because it said it's and advanced read with a mathematical base better suited for players who already possess a strong core knowledge of the game. Lets see if this helps me at the low stakes and if so I can move up to bigger and better things...

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    Rule #1: Don't make any friends

    Rule #2: Game selection

    Rule #3: Eat and sleep well

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    rule #4 going Tilt Could Make you or break you
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJT1212 View Post
    Small Stakes Hold 'em: Winning Big With Expert Play

    Got this book on the way. I think it will fit me well because it said it's and advanced read with a mathematical base better suited for players who already possess a strong core knowledge of the game. Lets see if this helps me at the low stakes and if so I can move up to bigger and better things...
    I've read a dozen plus books, they were all boring as fukc after the first one. This is the book you need.

    No Limit hold 'em Theory and Practice
    David Sklansky/Ed Miller

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    Rule #6: Dont bluff a wallpaper

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    Rule #7. Don't play poker for real money
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    Only learn so much from books. Put in the hours yourself you'll learn a lot more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    Only learn so much from books. Put in the hours yourself you'll learn a lot more.
    Relax Mr.Pro

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    Only learn so much from books. Put in the hours yourself you'll learn a lot more.

    True that. But 1 solid book is always a great place to start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hels View Post
    When you first sit down play tighter than a nuns oyster. Just watch the other players and their style of play. Spend the first 2 or 3 rounds (a good hour) playing this way and only limp/call in great position... you will give off the image as tight (which is good). When you feel you have a read on the players you can open up a little bit. Pick your spots wisely, if a player is call happy don't try to steal his blind with A3.

    This is a good starting style. Something huge is learning 'tells'. Look online, watch videos, read articles/books. I've read so many books on social psychology (it's a hobby of mine) that the simplest things (like pupil dilation) can give off obvious signs.

    I play with different styles depending on the table, I give off a certain 'image'. Let's say I'm heads up against a 22-25 year old players who think they know everything. If I have a great hand I will give off one obvious tell (lean in, look at them to their chips, hold my breath) so they think I'm bluffing and they call. I can't tell you how often this works.... things like this become part of your game over time. You will be able to classify players just be looking at them, is that 24 year old fukktard wearing sunglasses and a backwards hat.... the 42 year old broke dikk fukk flirting with the waitress and tipping $5 every beer, the 55 year old knitted sweater looking as content as can be, the 45 year old women dressed in her tens etc. etc.

    However, LEARN TELLS. After putting their chips in did their hand brush above their lips? Did the player beside me squish his balls his legs are so close to each other? Why won't she look at me?
    this is overall terrible advice.

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    just join a poker training site. Phil Galfond has a new one, runitonce.com

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    are you playing in Cherokee?

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    Game selection especially at bigger rooms and most importantly stay away from craps and blackjack, those are the hardest to overcome in trying to play winning poker.

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    if you play online and win, youll win live IMO.

    i wouldnt worry to much about tells, just concentrate on what you know from online poker. worrying about betting patterns, dont wear sunglasses or an ipod unless u want to be branded a douchebag.just kidding, im against sunglasses, but ipod is ok if you have trouble concentrating on the game, which could be a possibility.


    one thing you will see is that raises are much larger in live games then they are online, so you will have to adjust to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrinity View Post
    if you play online and win, youll win live IMO.

    i wouldnt worry to much about tells, just concentrate on what you know from online poker. worrying about betting patterns, dont wear sunglasses or an ipod unless u want to be branded a douchebag.just kidding, im against sunglasses, but ipod is ok if you have trouble concentrating on the game, which could be a possibility.


    one thing you will see is that raises are much larger in live games then they are online, so you will have to adjust to that.
    I was wondering about the larger raises, I would occasionally go play charity poker, and some of these guys at 1/2 tables are making initial raises of $15-$20. I'm no poker pro, but I thought like double to 5x big blind was typically raise, not fukking 6x the pot.

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    The biggest difference in live is exactly what Trinity said. Bet sizing. These idiots have no clue about 3x, or repopping. It means nothing to them. Even at 1/2 Tables they will lead out by betting $20-$25 Because that seems like such a small amount of money to bet to them. Then on the Flop they will bet out $40 or $50 even on a $200-300 pot because $40-50 is More than their $20-25 Preflop bet and thus should tell you they are strong.

    I lost a ton of cash the first time I went out because I didn't get the fact that a $50 bet on post flop meant the Nuts for 98% of the field. I also never got Value because they were confused by my $350 bet into a $500 pot. All I heard all day was how I was playing horribly and maybe I should learn how to play poker before I came back again .

    Next time I was ready for their bad play and took home a nice payday/.

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    Make sure your bankroll is 3x MORE than you THINK you need

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    RULE #8 Don't ever over bet when delt an AK youll lose your ass more times then not

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    Quote Originally Posted by tto827 View Post
    I was wondering about the larger raises, I would occasionally go play charity poker, and some of these guys at 1/2 tables are making initial raises of $15-$20. I'm no poker pro, but I thought like double to 5x big blind was typically raise, not fukking 6x the pot.
    o ya, this is the standard. as long as you dont have a lot of 3 betting types, which you usually dont, i would make it around 4-5x the bb when you raise preflop when you play live. no sense bloating the pot when the mistakes postflop are a plenty.

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    Old school = 3x blind pre-flop was the standard bet now the sky is the limit

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    Quote Originally Posted by borednaz View Post
    The biggest difference in live is exactly what Trinity said. Bet sizing. These idiots have no clue about 3x, or repopping. It means nothing to them. Even at 1/2 Tables they will lead out by betting $20-$25 Because that seems like such a small amount of money to bet to them. Then on the Flop they will bet out $40 or $50 even on a $200-300 pot because $40-50 is More than their $20-25 Preflop bet and thus should tell you they are strong.

    I lost a ton of cash the first time I went out because I didn't get the fact that a $50 bet on post flop meant the Nuts for 98% of the field. I also never got Value because they were confused by my $350 bet into a $500 pot. All I heard all day was how I was playing horribly and maybe I should learn how to play poker before I came back again .

    Next time I was ready for their bad play and took home a nice payday/.
    this is another thing i like you notice more live then online, the bets are usually disproportionate to the size of the pot. i duno if its because they dont understand pot odds, lose track of the pot size, just think their hand is worth x amount of money or whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Old school = 3x blind pre-flop was the standard bet now the sky is the limit
    still is in cash games online.

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    a good story summarizing live poker for you that happened to me a few months ago.

    was playing 2-5 nl 3 guys limp the small blind completes bb checks and they go to the flop which is aak. checks to the button who bets 50 everyone insta folds and he shows ak and wonders why he didnt get any action.

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    casino poker under 5/10 is very simple....tight agressive/limp pots cheap and either roll flop or bail....

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    poker is only taught through playing the game, you have to learn something new everytime...

    come sit at the 2/4,

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    Skilled poker plays , nuances , are lost in grind games 1/2NL or 2/4NL (get the idea?)

    have to play min 5/10

    BUT you must have the BR to move up - see post #24

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Skilled poker plays , nuances , are lost in grind games 1/2NL or 2/4NL (get the idea?)

    have to play min 5/10

    BUT you must have the BR to move up - see post #24
    there is still some skill involved in 1/2 or 2/4 nl.

    mostly the skill to know that nobody folds a big hand, even if they know they are beat.

    j/10/8 on the board someone will call kk down all the way, even if he is 95% sure someone has j/10, q/9, or 88

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    mike , that is adapting to the game which is a skill

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