1. 03-04-11 05:28 PM #71
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    So the FBI calls you and says you may be going to prison for 10 years and face huge fines and you're only concern is that you could be barred from some sportsbooks, this just seems like a bullshit post to me
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  2. 03-04-11 05:36 PM #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettilimbroke999 View Post
    So the FBI calls you and says you may be going to prison for 10 years and face huge fines and you're only concern is that you could be barred from some sportsbooks, this just seems like a bullshit post to me
    This was my thought too. It's hard to place bets from prison.
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  3. 03-04-11 05:37 PM #73
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    Any chance this dude is a government employee trying to scare SBR poster from gambling online

    Mods, can you change the FBI wording to just Feds instead. Anytime you see FBI associated with a post, the automatic assumption to a less informed poster's is that they're probably committing the same alleged crime as we speak. Probably got a few poster scared sh1tless right now
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  4. 03-04-11 05:38 PM #74
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    As far as I know noone has gone to prison for this. Am I supposed to think I would be the first ever?
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  5. 03-04-11 05:44 PM #75
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    Don't even bother responding to the stupid posts, dude.

    Just block them out as white noise.
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  6. 03-04-11 05:46 PM #76
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    yeah dude you are lying... you don't bet 60,000 on online poker......

    If you had 60,000 to play on Poker fly your ass to Vegas and play with real cards. Don't trust that electronic bullshit with 60,000.
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  7. 03-04-11 05:47 PM #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by djtrub View Post
    montana
    I call bullshit. No one lives in Montana.
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  8. 03-04-11 05:48 PM #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice House View Post
    yeah dude you are lying... you don't bet 60,000 on online poker......

    If you had 60,000 to play on Poker fly your ass to Vegas and play with real cards. Don't trust that electronic bullshit with 60,000.
    ^ Case in point.
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  9. 03-04-11 05:48 PM #79
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    sign up date is very suspicious
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  10. 03-04-11 05:55 PM #80
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    --------If this guy is moving 60K around, then I fart leprechauns.

    lol
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  11. 03-04-11 05:56 PM #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    sign up date is very suspicious
    He PM'ed me on 2+2. He is a high stakes poker player.
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  12. 03-04-11 05:56 PM #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice House View Post
    yeah dude you are lying... you don't bet 60,000 on online poker...... If you had 60,000 to play on Poker fly your ass to Vegas and play with real cards. Don't trust that electronic bullshit with 60,000.
    I wouldn't quite call that a valid point. Lot's of benefits to playing online as opposed to live. Many people make a living playing solely online.
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  13. 03-04-11 05:59 PM #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by raggman View Post
    --------If this guy is moving 60K around, then I fart leprechauns.

    lol
    Yeah, I guess that guy farts leprechauns then.

    It's amazing... A guy comes on here and mentions he deposited $60K with an offshore and people act like he is talking about being abducted by aliens.

    98% of the posters on this site are pathetic bustouts who can't even imagine having access to such a vast fortune as $60K. Very sad...
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  14. 03-04-11 05:59 PM #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    You pro types bring this on yourselves If your doing this shit serious you have no fukkin excuse not to have bank accounts all over the fukkin world It takes a lot of effort and time and some travel but well worth it
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  15. 03-04-11 06:02 PM #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by KGambler View Post
    Yeah, I guess that guy farts leprechauns then.

    It's amazing... A guy comes on here and mentions he deposited $60K with an offshore and people act like he is talking about being abducted by aliens.

    98% of the posters on this site are pathetic bustouts who can't even imagine having access to such a vast fortune as $60K. Very sad...
    SBR is a hub for gambling related information so why wouldnt OP post here?? So many cynics in this forum...
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  16. 03-04-11 06:16 PM #86
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    I think your ******. Pay your taxes if that doesnt work go to your nearest Montanian casino and lose it all back.
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  17. 03-05-11 06:13 AM #87
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    lol you guys are so pathetic. "Omgzzz there's no way you have 60k. Otherwise you'd be a SBR pro 'cuz that's $200 and proves you're rich." Go on twoplustwo and read around(especially the high stakes no limit sports discussion thread). It will be a nice learning experience for you guys to see 20 year old kids making 300k/year and guys transferring 5 figures to one another on full tilt without even blinking. Go. Learn. Be sad.
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  18. 03-05-11 06:59 AM #88
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    Wow awful story. I hope it works out for you. Just avoid horrible Matchbook.
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  19. 03-05-11 06:59 AM #89
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    Or just go to Full Tilt right now one guy has $1 M on the table in a PLO cash game...
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  20. 03-05-11 07:07 AM #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by illfuuptn View Post
    lol you guys are so pathetic. "Omgzzz there's no way you have 60k. Otherwise you'd be a SBR pro 'cuz that's $200 and proves you're rich." Go on twoplustwo and read around(especially the high stakes no limit sports discussion thread). It will be a nice learning experience for you guys to see 20 year old kids making 300k/year and guys transferring 5 figures to one another on full tilt without even blinking. Go. Learn. Be sad.

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  21. 03-05-11 07:15 AM #91
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    Both online poker and sportsbetting are most definitely illegal in the U.S.
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  22. 03-05-11 07:19 AM #92
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    Yeah, they don't enforce it, for now, but I'm guessing they will go after the sportsbettors if they put the approval stamp on poker.
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  23. 03-05-11 08:10 AM #93
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    A couple of observations/questions from a non-legal type:

    First how can the U.S. Government ever prove illegal gambling took place without data from the sportsbooks servers which they will never be able to get. There can't possibly be a U.S. law making it illegal to send money to or from Matchbook (which is legally licensed in the country it is in, Antigua) written anywhere in U.S. law.

    Second, (although you really need to check with a lawyer on this one), but I'm pretty sure regarding money laundering where the money comes back to you from a foreign country, it can only be considered money laundering if the activity is illegal in that foreign country as well as in the U.S. In Matchbook's case it is legal to gamble in Antigua, Matchbook is licensed there, therefore money laundering can not be considered. I am almost certain this would be the case if you received funds from some major UK bookmaker (that it could not be considered money laundering). On the other hand, maybe this is because there is some kind of mutual treaty between the UK and U.S, that may not exist with Antigua this is why you really need to check with a lawyer.
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  24. 03-05-11 08:12 AM #94
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    feds aren't shit
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  25. 03-05-11 09:07 AM #95
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    This guy is full of shiz. Sounds like another Cole move if you ask me... I have faith that the SBR members will investigae this like the other thread on here...
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  26. 03-05-11 10:19 AM #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Vandeleigh View Post
    A couple of observations/questions from a non-legal type:

    First how can the U.S. Government ever prove illegal gambling took place without data from the sportsbooks servers which they will never be able to get. There can't possibly be a U.S. law making it illegal to send money to or from Matchbook (which is legally licensed in the country it is in, Antigua) written anywhere in U.S. law.

    Second, (although you really need to check with a lawyer on this one), but I'm pretty sure regarding money laundering where the money comes back to you from a foreign country, it can only be considered money laundering if the activity is illegal in that foreign country as well as in the U.S. In Matchbook's case it is legal to gamble in Antigua, Matchbook is licensed there, therefore money laundering can not be considered. I am almost certain this would be the case if you received funds from some major UK bookmaker (that it could not be considered money laundering). On the other hand, maybe this is because there is some kind of mutual treaty between the UK and U.S, that may not exist with Antigua this is why you really need to check with a lawyer.
    You mean besides that pesky little law that makes it nearly impossible to deposit funds easily?
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  27. 03-05-11 10:32 AM #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgray View Post
    You mean besides that pesky little law that makes it nearly impossible to deposit funds easily?
    or inexpensivly?
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  28. 03-05-11 11:38 AM #98
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    I thought Montana was one of four states where sports betting is legal.
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  29. 03-05-11 11:44 AM #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgray View Post
    This was my thought too. It's hard to place bets from prison.
    Not really , Mike Matasow lost over $500k betting sports while in prison.
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  30. 03-05-11 11:48 AM #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by senseionline View Post
    Most RiskTaking sports bets over U.S. phone lines
    Taking bets on a server located in the U.S.
    Taking bets on a foreign server, and then visiting the U.S.
    Facilitating the transfer of funds to online casinos (payment processors), and then visiting the U.S.
    Facilitating the transfer of funds to online casinos (payment processors), whether in the US. or not.
    Taking casino / poker bets from U.S. customers on a website outside the U.S.
    Helping people make bets on a website
    Accepting advertising for Internet gambling, in the major media
    Accepting advertising for Internet gambling, smaller media
    Buying advertising in a U.S. publication as a casino, poker room, or affiliate
    Placing bets yourself on the Internet
    i always get an automated voice from ** saying it's illegal to fund an account for gambling. i wonder if it is true.
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  31. 03-05-11 12:00 PM #101
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  32. 03-05-11 12:03 PM #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokernut9999 View Post
    Not really , Mike Matasow lost over $500k betting sports while in prison.
    Assuming this is true, I can't imagine he did it logging onto an online account from the prison computers...
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  33. 03-05-11 12:05 PM #103
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    Why is it that people that have problems like mthis normally have under 50 posts?
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  34. 03-05-11 12:26 PM #104
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    I take the story for true, at the very least, from the OP's viewpoint.

    1) The FBI does not have folks ringing you up.
    2) If they want you, you will hear a knocking sound at your front door. Unless more extreme measures are required.

    What confuses me is that there seems to be clear knowledge of what the transfer was for and where it went, i.e. gaming and a sportsbook. Sounds to me like simple scare tactics trying to extract information.

    Long and short:

    If you are really bothered by it, run it by an attorney. If it only concerns you vis a vis moving cash to books, I am uncertain how to handle that. BUT if all is as stated, some agency is clearly watching you and will get you if there is any possible way.

    The "say nothing" advice is sound.
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  35. 03-22-11 11:31 AM #105
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    How can one legally play, when you can"t legally fund?
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