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    Quote Originally Posted by THEGREAT30 View Post
    Not trying to save souls. Simply pointing out the truth no book explains God or brings anyone closer to him. All religious doctrines are bullshit but the bible is the biggest bullshit and makes God look very suspect unless you are at a loss for well functioning brain cells. To make it simple my problem is not with God because I don't know a thing about God but I do know that the bible is bullshit.
    You truely have some issues...
    What was the point of this thread?

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    If the bible were made into a movie, it would be rated NC-17. It's chock full of action-packed torture, homosexuality, bestiality, incest, rape, wars, intoxication, plagues, lepers, and drugs. The bible is probably one of the most pornographic books known to man.

    And all of those drugs people used - wow! How else do you explain people seeing a man inside of a burning bush? Or a person instantly reduced to a pillar of salt. Or a man able to cause a sea to just divide itself right down the middle. Or a man that was swallowed by a whale, and actually survived in there for 3 days!

    And wow, just the final chapter of the bible - Revelations. That's the greatest sci-fi book ever created. Somebody should really make a movie out of that one:



    Multi-colored Flying horses, eh? Horned-animals with multiple heads? Yah, right. Tell me that this was not one hell of a drug-induced trip!

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    the bible

    its number one only cause it been around a long time thats all plus it was revised by king james to make it easier to read so more people can understand it better for more sales to and goverment can make more money watch zeitgeist the docamentary it will explain a lot of thing on bible

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    Bible written by wandering nomads dehydrated and desperate for food.

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    I never really got why billions of people believe the oldest tale in the world is true.

    Everytime I think about when the bible was written, I see some old man writing out his fantasies on paper, like an author would do today. Then he said it was true to someone else, who totally bought it because noone had ever lied to him before. And so it begun!

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    I can't comment intelligently on the topic of the Bible being a good read or not. I've prob only read about 5% of it. and I bet that is more than 90% of the posters in this thread.

    from what I read in different points, it was obviously disjointed and from many different authors. It obviously wasn't some sort of conspiracy to create some "Fantasy" story, as it was a collection of writings over hundreds of years. with many historical accuracies.

    maybe the OP's ire should be aimed at the people that decided on which writings and scrolls to leave in and leave out of the finalized "Christian" bible.

    you can't just condemn Christianity if you are condeming the bible, as the Jews believe in the vast majority of the bible as well.

    i'm not sure that the bible purports to be a book of hope to any old reader. It purports itself to be a historical document, the reader can do with it as he or she pleases.

    I think Religion and Religious people have hurt, taken advantage, and killed people quite often. I'm not sure that you should blame writings or books for that issue though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chandler View Post
    It purports itself to be a historical document, the reader can do with it as he or she pleases.
    For one, a historical document would not include 'visions' of the history.

    And secondly, the first form of writing came about around 3500 BCE. If the bible is real, why did God wait until around 100 CE to speak to people and have them record his word? Is there some reason that he waited ~3,600 years to do this? And for that matter, why did he quit speaking to us? So he told one specific group of people to write down certain things, and then decided to remain quiet for the next couple of thousand years?

    If we are his children, shouldn't he want to drop in every once in awhile and give us a little sign that he's still there, watching over us, protecting us? I mean, that's what any good parent would do. Actually, a good parent would be there all the time for us. It's a reciprocal relationship. With religion, it's a one-way street.

    We give our time and money to God. We worship him, tell him how awesome he is, how much we need him, and ask him for things that we 'need'. When he ignores us, we chalk it up as "God's will". When some coincidence happens (like an insurance check arrives in the mail for an overpayment or something), we say that it's a miracle and God does indeed answer prayers.

    Another poster already touched on this, but all that we 'know' about God is what has been told to us as children, usually by our parents. Most Americans were also told of Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny. Eventually, we negate 75% of these as mere fantasies, passed down because of tradition. Yet, for some reason, we hold on to that last story told to us by our parents - the story of God and Jesus. Well, at least that is the Christian version.

    Every single human civilization has worshiped some form of deity, whether singular or plural. From the early Egyptians that worshiped various gods of nature, to the Greek that worshiped deities that we now consider mythological, to our modern religions. Hinduism is the oldest religion that is still in practice, dating back to around 2000 BCE. Christianity is about 2,000 years ago.

    We are not wrong to believe in a deity. As I've said, all civilizations have done so. Much of Christianity's roots comes from the Egyptian religion. From celebrating Christmas (a pagan holiday that isn't even the birth of Christ), to saying Amen at the end of your prayers (a tradition that was also borrowed from the Egyptians, as they used to say the name of Amon-Ra, their sun god, at the of their prayers.

    To think that your religion is the 'right' one, and the only way to your heaven, makes little sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Peepers View Post
    Tom Cruise is this you???? Listening to this shit makes me believe you never read the Bible because you are way off on so many things...Stick to your books on tapes or go read Barney or Tellitubbies or some shit....Here is a fact for you: The Bible is the number one selling book of all-time and thats not because its the "book of death" !!
    Don't even waste your time arguing with this fool Peepers. These angry idiots blame God for losing dough on gambling

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEGREAT30 View Post
    Not trying to save souls. Simply pointing out the truth no book explains God or brings anyone closer to him. All religious doctrines are bullshit but the bible is the biggest bullshit and makes God look very suspect unless you are at a loss for well functioning brain cells. To make it simple my problem is not with God because I don't know a thing about God but I do know that the bible is bullshit.
    No shit you're not trying to save souls. That's why I'm laughing at you and your beef with the Bible. I mean damn, some of the shit in there is almost 4000 years old, obviously there's going to be a lot rendered obsolete or clarified in the process of a civilized world evolving over a few thousand years. Man is flawed. God is not, theoretically. So obviously any attempts by man to explain the existence of God are going to miss the mark somehow. Why be so negative and judgmental towards a group of people who did so over a THOUSAND f*cking years ago? It's not like this shit was an op-ed in the New York Times yesterday. Grow a pair and deal with it.

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    who is the god character you speak of

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    wtf. I don't get this thread.

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    1. "God is, or He is not"
    2. A Game is being played... where heads or tails will turn up.
    3. According to reason, you can defend neither of the propositions.
    4. You must wager. It is not optional.
    5. Let us weigh the gain and the loss in wagering that God is. Let us estimate these two chances. If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing.
    6. Wager, then, without hesitation that He is. (...) There is here an infinity of an infinitely happy life to gain, a chance of gain against a finite number of chances of loss, and what you stake is finite. And so our proposition is of infinite force, when there is the finite to stake in a game where there are equal risks of gain and of loss, and the infinite to gain.

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    TheGreat30 is low class human garbage and a point stiff to boot.

    You have a better chance of God coming down from the sky and flying you up to never-never land then getting paid back on a betpoints loan given to him.

    Stiffs like TheGreat30 should be banned from posting here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andywend View Post
    TheGreat30 is low class human garbage and a point stiff to boot.

    You have a better chance of God coming down from the sky and flying you up to never-never land then getting paid back on a betpoints loan given to him.

    Stiffs like TheGreat30 should be banned from posting here.

    correct as usual, Andy point stiffs are as pathetic as they come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andywend View Post
    TheGreat30 is low class human garbage and a point stiff to boot.

    You have a better chance of God coming down from the sky and flying you up to never-never land then getting paid back on a betpoints loan given to him.

    Stiffs like TheGreat30 should be banned from posting here.
    Yeah go read the bible in your trailer park and take your boy Obama with you, don't clog up my thread with that bullshit, you can get your 6 points by posting in other threads, welfare boy

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEGREAT30 View Post
    Just as hard as the dick that goes up your ass, stay out of my thread with unnecessary insults you unintelligent lame
    fukk your thread punk ass female... pay your debts....

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    op is desperately trying to "edgy" but he is as a edgy as a bowling ball

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    Well at least jesus just wandered around do'in cool hippie shit, like walk'in on water, help'in out whores down on their luck, feeding thousands of people with a couple of loaves of bread and some fish! Where as that muslim fuk head mohomed, killed anybody who didn't follow that fuk'in joke islam religion, abused and killed their own women and children if they acted disobedient! Chopped off a starving begger's hand or foot because he stole a piece of fruit! I'd take some zany christian bullshit over the fanatical islamic, strap a bomb on and kill everybody ideology any day! Nobody is more brainwash and fuk'ed in the head with their beliefs than islamic muslims and the great camel fuk'er they follow mohomed!

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    there was an organization offering 250.000 dollars for anyone who could prove it to be false . no one has collected yet and many have tried scientists included

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rookie-Capper View Post
    there was an organization offering 250.000 dollars for anyone who could prove it to be false . no one has collected yet and many have tried scientists included
    They would not count it as proof even if they could prove it. I am watching some preacher now and he is talking about the new healthcare system. They all turn into motivational speakers and politicians all too often.

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    Not excusing what many preachers do they are just wrong .but many very smart men that did set out to prove it wrong came to a surpisingly different conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rookie-Capper View Post
    Not excusing what many preachers do they are just wrong .but many very smart men that did set out to prove it wrong came to a surpisingly different conclusion.
    Just because you consider them smart does not make them smart my friend. Providing facts or things that can be proven make you smart. Who are these men and where can I find there conclusions and information on how they got there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itriedsohard View Post
    1. "God is, or He is not"
    2. A Game is being played... where heads or tails will turn up.
    3. According to reason, you can defend neither of the propositions.
    4. You must wager. It is not optional.
    5. Let us weigh the gain and the loss in wagering that God is. Let us estimate these two chances. If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing.
    6. Wager, then, without hesitation that He is. (...) There is here an infinity of an infinitely happy life to gain, a chance of gain against a finite number of chances of loss, and what you stake is finite. And so our proposition is of infinite force, when there is the finite to stake in a game where there are equal risks of gain and of loss, and the infinite to gain.

    Bullseye!!!

    When a Fool calls the Greatest Book of Wisdom in the history of mankind "the book of death", I smile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazz27 View Post
    And on the 8 day god created sportsbetting & SBR but then he knew he had made a big f...ing terrible mistake so then he made the 10 commandments
    1st said thou shalt not gamble any more ever ever ever again..........

    A F....ING MEN

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    Quote Originally Posted by pronk View Post
    Bullseye!!!

    When a Fool calls the Greatest Book of Wisdom in the history of mankind "the book of death", I smile.
    You're a very ignorant and needy man if you find wisdom in things that you can not even prove to be true

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    Quote Originally Posted by itriedsohard View Post
    1. "God is, or He is not"
    2. A Game is being played... where heads or tails will turn up.
    3. According to reason, you can defend neither of the propositions.
    4. You must wager. It is not optional.
    5. Let us weigh the gain and the loss in wagering that God is. Let us estimate these two chances. If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing.
    6. Wager, then, without hesitation that He is. (...) There is here an infinity of an infinitely happy life to gain, a chance of gain against a finite number of chances of loss, and what you stake is finite. And so our proposition is of infinite force, when there is the finite to stake in a game where there are equal risks of gain and of loss, and the infinite to gain.
    The bible has nothing to do with God in my opinion and I will type it again maybe it takes people like you more than once to comprehend

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