1. 03-06-24 09:09 PM #36
    JohnGalt2341
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    Quote Originally Posted by trytrytry View Post
    the future of sports betting in America is mostly horrible
    Why is that?
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  2. 03-06-24 09:57 PM #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGalt2341 View Post
    Why is that?
    government involvement
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  3. 03-07-24 05:49 PM #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjb7223 View Post
    government involvement
    When has government involvement ever gone sideways?
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  4. 03-22-24 01:17 PM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkHorseplayer View Post
    The future of sportsbetting is the casinos' AI hanging a perfect line and the players' AI concluding that there is no value either way; it will be literally impossible to win in the long term.
    Most players will play without an AI to find value because most players don't know what value is. As long as that holds, the perfect line is not outcome probabilities minus bookmaker's margin but where the book is balanced. For example, oddscompiler puts odds 1.2 for the favorite and 5 for the underdog. Payout is 1 / (1/1.2 + 1/5) = 0.968 ie. bookie keeps 3.2 % of the money. You can see it that way: if at closing 5 million $ are bet on the favorite while 1.2 million $ on the underdog, the oddscompiler did a perfect job. No matter who wins, the house pays out 5 * 1.2 = 6 million and keeps 200 thousand as 6.2 million have been wagered - which is another way to calc the 6 / 6.2 = 96.8 % payout. Whether the odds imply outcome probabilities is not of interest for the bookie as long as the mass 1) instead of value wants to pick the winner and 2) has skewed beliefs about teams'/players' skills (as well as the who's who in the winning and losing groups is not of interest for the serious bookie, unfortunately most bookies are not serious).
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  5. 03-22-24 01:33 PM #40
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    ...and why can't I upload an avatar?? It's 150x150px and far below 2 MB size. (sry for asking that here, can't find the right place to ask)
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  6. 03-22-24 02:26 PM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkHorseplayer View Post
    The future of sportsbetting is the casinos' AI hanging a perfect line and the players' AI concluding that there is no value either way; it will be literally impossible to win in the long term.
    There's no perfect lines.
    AI is a joke.
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  7. 03-22-24 07:51 PM #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by k13 View Post

    There's no perfect lines.
    AI is a joke.
    Agree right now.

    It's still no where near 'understanding' anything at all. It just predicts what the average human would respond with if all they knew was the same data set of knowledge. It has no clue what anything means to apply logic to it. It uses hardly 0.01% of the logic every human uses.
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